Broncos Beat Steelers On First Play of First New Rule Overtime
by Neal Coolong on Jan 8, 2012 8:15 PM EST
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PrintIt was over as quickly as it began.
Broncos QB Tim Tebow hit Demaryius Thomas on an 80-yard catch-and-run on the first play of overtime, giving the host Broncos a 29-23 win in the Wild Card round of the playoffs.
The Steelers season ends mercifully, considering the amount of injuries they racked up down the stretch. DE Brett Keisel and NT Casey Hampton were both injured early Sunday, and didn't return. The Steelers had no back-up defensive linemen, and DEs Ziggy Hood and Cameron Heyward and NT Steve McClendon played nearly every snap of the game.
Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger was hobbled, but did lead the Steelers back from a 20-6 halftime deficit to tie the game at 23. Pittsburgh had the ball at the end of regulation, but intense pressure from Denver's front seven led to a sack on the game's last play.
The new overtime rules would have given the team kicking off to start the extra period a chance to tie if the first team with the ball scored a field goal.
We still haven't seen an NFL game with a possession after one team scores in overtime.
Pittsburgh, the defending AFC champions, end their season at 12-5. Denver advances to New England for a game against the No. 1-seeded Patriots Sunday.
An incredibly painful loss, but some truly excellent football in the second half.
We'll have plenty of off-season coverage of the Steelers and the rest of the league, so lick your wounds and come back soon. The next Stairway to Seven goes under construction in approximately four hours.
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Hey,
What ever happened with that BTSC Pick’em league? Did anybody ever win that thing??
"We'll continue to search for the ceiling"
Game literally decided by one play
Two teams playing tough, gritty football.
I don't know, much of the time BB sure looked like he had time to throw today.
I didn’t see him take off running until way late in the game, and way late in those couple of plays. I was kind of disappointed to see Heath disappear from the game after his early success. I still think we need the dump off scripted in the play book, it sure seems as if we’re good at it but don’t use it enough.
Can’t believe it. I predicted the Steelers in a rout. I guess I better not go to Vegas. Wow!
From Texas…and NO, I’m NOT a Cowboys fan…
The Steelers, IMO, were the only team that not only could but would beat the Ravens.
Saints vs. Ravens now…IMO
It was a great season.
Tebow really showed some improvement this game too. Just like I was worried about the injuries just became too much to overcome.
Time to get rid of Arians and get some quality linemen.
-You're welcome.
Please get rid of BA
…as they said – no one wanted him for OC or head coach…
He's been protected the last few years
by a stout defense that has got us deep into the playoffs. We have way too much talent to be fielding that kind of offense.
-You're welcome.
by Jux on Jan 8, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
We should be much better than what we are
Ben has had success with Arians, but its time for a change. I’m not asking for a top 5 offense, but it at least has to be in the top 20 every season.
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Jan 8, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
We need a healthy o-line
and we need officiating that doesn’t decree that it is open season on our QB for a start.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
You can blame the line.
And that’s why I insist that we need to draft early and often for quality linemen this year. But I’m so tired of screaming at my tv over these shitty play calls. What was it 3 runs on 1st and 2nd down? He’s kept his job so far because of a defense that bails us out and small strokes of genius that he can’t consistently follow up.
-You're welcome.
by Jux on Jan 8, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
Small strokes of genius sounds about right
Ben has made him look better than what he is for years now.
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Jan 8, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
Well our scoring could use an improvement.
To many times we settle only for a field goal or stall somwhere before that. We can move the ball just not allways when it matters it seems.
seriously
some officiating would have been awesome. i really hate to blame anything on anything other than the way our boys play, but I think non-calls on pass interference and holding accounted for more than enough today
it ruins the game
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
It does
I feel like the officiating this year has been really lousy, even in games where I didn’t have a preferred outcome.
The Steelers lost today, and didn’t need anyone else’s help to do it. But, they got it anyway, and watching a game that seems rigged doesn’t help the league in the long run.
Same thing last night- Saints were the better team, but Brees got the Jordan rules.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Jan 8, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
Refs were bad on both sides...
…don’t even go there; everyone is waiting for Steeler Nation to whine about the refs.
Defense lost the game; pure and simple. Offense helped in the loss, by playing catch up, and not putting the Broncos down for the count. Broncos won the game by playing harder, and smarter.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
The defense definitely lost the game
they made Tebow look like an actual NFL QB; it was incredibly frustrating to watch, but it happens.
Also, a good reminder that there are things in life more important than games; today was rough, but in the grand scheme of things, nothing to get too down over for too long.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Jan 9, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
Refs were bad on both sides...
…don’t even go there; everyone is waiting for Steeler Nation to whine about the refs.
Defense lost the game; pure and simple. Offense helped in the loss, by playing catch up, and not putting the Broncos down for the count. Broncos won the game by playing harder, and smarter.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
I am saying poor officiating
is ruining a multi-billion dollar business.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
Agree with this
Even when it doesn’t favor one team or another, the sloppy officiating this season has hurt perception of their on-field product.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Jan 8, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
yes, that is the problem I have with it. Sometimes it’s like the NBA, or worse yet, boxing since they have judges
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
Boxing, figure-skating
The NBA, the WWE; those are the sports where it’s pretty clear that it’s rigged.
The NFL used to be pretty solidly objective, but it’s looking a bit more dubious lately…
WHY haven’t they hired full-time refs yet, for a multi-billion dollar business?
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Jan 9, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
it seems like it’s gotten crazy over the last three seasons or so. Why hire full time refs? What if they are just doing their jobs?
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
I feel like it isn’t on the refs…when you are asked to call or not call penalties on judgement calls(ie, defenseless receivers) it is hard to seem objective. I don’t like the rule changes because they are left too much to interpretation. Now yesterday’s game had some suspect calls and non calls, but from what I saw, they benefited the Steelers more than not..that was an early whistle on the backwards pass that should have been called a fumble, no facemask penalties for Tebow. Bottom line from what I saw was a D that was exposed by the lack of over top coverage from Ryan Clark
I wouldn't say defense specifically, I would say Ike.
I was lambasted before the season started for suggesting that Ike is an average corner, and I have watched all season as every time he was really tested, he was either burned or committed a PI and I said nothing. Mostly, no one went his way this season, because he is usually in good position – but the fact is if he is thrown at, the receiver usually finishes the catch. I am here to say it again, Ike is WAY overrated, the guy was toast last night, and his true colors shined through once again, he just isn’t that good. After this years tutelage with coach Lake, William Gay is a better Corner than Taylor. Way is almost always in position and ALWAYS plays the ball unlike Ike, who climbs all over receivers and doesn’t even turn around to look for the ball.
When I look at how Johnathon Joseph played this weekend? Ike is average.
I am done ranting, and I am not going to get into a back and forth, I really don’t get a **** what anyone else thinks, or what kind of situation related stats some might provide, I know what I saw last night and what I saw all year, when the chips are down, so is Ike, like a used tissue at the feet of the receiver.
"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 9, 2012 8:40 AM EST up reply actions
If the NFL is set on being the WWF
they better be prepared to suffer the same fate (or does anyone watch that garbage?).
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
I do
great morality play when done right
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
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by WVPiratesfan on Jan 9, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
The bad guy wins is a morality play
or has that part of the script changed?
I quit watching wrestling when I was 12 after I realized it was fixed.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 9, 2012 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed
Too much talent on that offense to score so few points this season.
Proud fan of Pittsburgh's professional sports teams and the Pirates too.
by Black&GoldTrain on Jan 8, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
There is too much talent on this team for it to score as few points as they did this season.
Proud fan of Pittsburgh's professional sports teams and the Pirates too.
by Black&GoldTrain on Jan 8, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for a great season Steelers
Now get home and get healed up. Be ready for next season.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 8:20 PM EST reply actions
Actually it is, and it doesn’t contradict the mantra.
But I get your sentiment, rough loss tonight.
But you keep pulling out your "refs-threw-the-game" card if that’s what you need for catharsis. You can use that card after every loss. It is a lifetime pass. Get it laminated. -Maryrose
You're right, I'm just just very bitter.
Healing is necessary, but it shoudln’t contradict the mantra.
Thats why I just cracked
a fine Ale or 9.5%
;)
But you keep pulling out your "refs-threw-the-game" card if that’s what you need for catharsis. You can use that card after every loss. It is a lifetime pass. Get it laminated. -Maryrose
I'm still slurping my fine American Miller High Life Lights.
I was trying to hold the good stuff in reserve for the post win celebration. I’ll have to change that thinking so they don’t skunk over the next 9 months.
no time like the present
Keep it safe out there
But you keep pulling out your "refs-threw-the-game" card if that’s what you need for catharsis. You can use that card after every loss. It is a lifetime pass. Get it laminated. -Maryrose
We had a great season and battked a lot of injuries
And ultimately we were unable to overcome them. Im proud of this team but its time to move on. Tomorrow i will begin writing draft posts.
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by seton hall and steelers on Jan 8, 2012 8:21 PM EST via Android app reply actions
sounds good
I am looking forward to the draft.
Also, I agree about the injuries. It was amazing we got to the SB last year with all those injuries. We just ran out of healthy bodies this year.
p.s. I want to see a QB in that draft. We need someone we are not afraid to play when Ben is down to one leg and one hand.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
I know its early but if we stay healthy next year I think we win the Super Bowl
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by seton hall and steelers on Jan 8, 2012 8:22 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Very possible.
But there are at least 18 other fan bases who believe that…
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by Pardon_My_French on Jan 8, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
Even if we found a way to win this game,
There’s no way we go to the SB with all the injuries. Ben did the best he could under the circumstances.
by Billy52 on Jan 8, 2012 8:25 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I was feeling the same way. There was just no way. I know “The standard is the standard” but when even our backups need backups…it’s just crazy.
The standard is the standard doesn’t mean everyone is the same player. It means they’re all treated the same way. Obviously, taking out two key defensive linemen, forcing the only three left still standing to play every snap against a scrambling QB in high altitude is not something any team just overcomes…
add to it
the fact that 4 of the d-line we started the season with were on IR or injured early in the game.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
Everyone here is acting like our d-line was the problem
In fact they played great it was out crappy secondary who couldn’t keep up with the crappy receivers.
No sacks....no rushes...
…granted, Snack and Keisel out – biggest problem was lack of coordination between D line, Linebackers, and secondary.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
But it is hard for the line to
go up against a good line it is our LB and Ike Taylor. but I put it all on Ike talor
Lookup the '06 Patriots
You’ll find they could have won the Bears in that Super Bowl if the DEF didn’t give up. That’s right, I said the D gave up, not due to injuries. They had more injuries and other things holding them down more than the Stealers had injuries the last few seasons combined -yet they beat the super-hyped Chargers, and nearly finished of Manning REGARDLESS.
Maybe
or it could be that Mundy doesn’t have the same chemistry with troy that Clark does so he didn’t know when to stay back.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
He should've stayed back for the majority of the game
The the passes that Tebow throws well are deep passes, so Mundy should’ve stayed deep regardless.
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Jan 8, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
NO, NO!
WHIT THAT SO CALLED SHUT DOWN CORNER, MUNDY SHOULD EVEN IN THIS BLOG. GET REAL! WHAT A JOKE!
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by peytonsurdaddy on Jan 8, 2012 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I don't know if it is the caps
or the incoherence but I really think you should get a good nights sleep before you post again.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
I think Ike was crying last week that he didnt make the Pro bowl
Well hey Ike guess what tonight is why you didn’t make the pro bowl. You are garbage.
There was no pressure on Tebow at all.
Any QB can sit back there and find an open receiver. LeBeau can’t rush the passer.
He also can't make officials toss flags
When I saw Harrison getting grabbed around the head on one of Tebow’s big plays without a flag, I knew we were going to get screwed. In fairness, I didn’t see a hold on the winning TD.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
Refs sucked
For the Steeler they got no holding call at all and there were plenty in just the 2 and a half quarter I got to watch.
For the Broncos there were at least 3 facemasks on Tebow not call. Just saying
Huge fan of the Steelers. (that includes "Steelers West")
"If I could start my life over again, I would be a professional football player and you better damn well believe a Pittsburgh Steeler!"- Jack Lambert
Plenty of holds missed
But I saw almost as many from our o-line not getting called either. Not sure where the officials heads were but I can guess.
-You're welcome.
by Jux on Jan 8, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
As a general rule, refs don't want to be responsible for a playoff loss by giving penalties
Which means you can often get away with more in a knockout game.
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Contributing Writer at PatsPulpit
Steeler fans
Have no right to complain about penalties. That no fumble was a joke and they missed 3 Tebow face mask penalties.
You are on here a lot
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jan 8, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
We'll see ya Saturday night brah
GO BRONCOS
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With Coach Zorro on our side, we will slice opponents to ribbons. Tim Tebow gives me hope and I already have faith and charity in my heart! I see a propitious future rife with Lombardis for our Broncos!
by the new Bradfather on Jan 8, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
pulpit is kind of boring even during non bye weeks.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
no need to do all that. I’m just saying. Not to try to insult you. Other blogs are fun to go to.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
Frank
Suffice to say, the Patriots have a much lighter bandwagon. That’s a lot of Terrible Towel wavers that were displaced from the diaspora to Colorado (?)
Tough break for the Steelers. I wanted a Pats/Steelers rematch very badly. A healthy Ben and the result is different. See you next year!
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I'll visit Pats Pulpit
this week, if you guys allow pictures of gorgeous women, that should liven things up a bit
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 8, 2012 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
Beautiful women are always appreciated.
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being a Pats fan (I assume)
you probably didn’t realize that offensive lineman are not supposed to be allowed to hold the defensive lineman.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
And you
I assume believe it is entirely the refs fault anytime the Steelers lose and their is no way that there’re were missed holding calls on the Steelers OL.
Nope
The lose was not entirely the refs fault but obvious holding calls on plays that lead to 50 yard passes or TDs are an embarrassment to the league. It is a shame that seem to occur to the benefit of some teams more than others. it is unfortunate that NE seems to benefit more than others.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
I find it hysterical
That you are completely ignoring how much more the Steelers benefited from the refs than the Broncos. But that’s right I forgot Pittsburgh doesn’t commit penalties…complaining about the refs and lack of holding calls is the oldest and lamest excuse in the book.
The Broncos played better and deserved to win, the refs had nothing to do with it and every non-Pitt fan (as well as many Pitt fans) will agree.
… you’re a tool. He’s completely ignoring how much more the Steelers benefited? and you’re not have ANNNNYYYY problems with bias now, are you? Mr. Objective over here, buy this prick a beer.
Oh right
Denver not getting the ball inside the 20 on at fumble completely benefited them. Even mores when Pittsburgh scored a TD on the same drive.
soak up those tears, get your thumb out of your mouth, and try to act older than 12 little boy…
NE isn't going to win anything. Brees, Rodgers or Manning will throw for a grand. At the end of the day we will win the same amount of SBs as you this year ... 0.
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
enjoy cheering
For those other teams.
by Crizzle12 on Jan 8, 2012 9:15 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
This is where I don't give a shit.
I don’t care if NE wins, or Denver or anyone. They aren’t the Steelers. It’s a Browns’ fans existence to root for teams to lose because their teams can’t win. That still doesn’t change the fact that you aren’t winning anything this year either.
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
Because it is a fact?
why is that? Because of the defense? Defense no longer wins championships buddy. Packers finished dead last in the NFL and look where they are. Patriots have the best TO differential in the AFC and have 2 games at home. If they get to the superbowl who says they won’t beat up the equally porous Packer and Saint defenses?
The Packers weren’t dead last last year, so your statement is full of falsehoods.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
You're wrong. 2011 =/= 2010
Like, how do years work?
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
you said “defense doesn’t win championships anymore” but…the championship hasn’t been won yet.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It simply doesn't anymore
That’s why the teams with the two worst in the league are the favorite for their conferences and teams like the jets who finished top 5 in defense don’t even make the playoffs.
THERE HAS NOT BEEN A CHAMPIONSHIP WON SINCE LAST YEAR. DEFENSE WON IT
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
Lol defense did not win last years superbowl
and what was the Saints defensive rank when they won the superbowl 22 or something like that?
But sure why don’t we just skip the rest of the games and have a Ravens 49ers superbowl tonight because there is no way any other teams can possibly make it.
You realize both of those SBs were won by Pick Sixes right?
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
So your argument
Is that the reason those superbowls were won was because of one play? Right Tracy Porter showed all by himself that it wasn’t Drew Brees and his superbowl record for completions that won the game it was all defense.
No one has won yet dumbass. The Packers' defense last year was top 5.
You are winning nothing. Deal with it. I’d take either of GB/NO’s defenses over playing WRs in my secondary like yinz. The Pats haven’t mattered in years. Let go.
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
Pats havnt mattered in years lol
Calm your shit child it is only a game. Don’t go and off yourself because you lost today.
And there is a reason why we play the games. After all there was no way Denver was going to win today right? Oh wait…
I took a glance at your "body of work"
This is impressive trolling indeed. You get AP credit for this?
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
When was the last relevant Pats season? 2007? 2004?
It’s 2012? That’s years, like plural. You are changing topics because you have no argument haha. It’s pathetic.
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
What topic am I changing?
It looks like I was just answering your response.
what’s pathetic is how hostile you become over a game. I’m sorry it means so much to you but you don’t need to get your panties in a bunch.
I will now await your 13 year old “lol your such a retard pats fan lmfao response”
if you really think it’s because of a game, you’re not very bright. You’re being a douche, and are being treated as such.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
Pfft
I came here and gave my opinion. You from the beginning have not attempted to provide a productive comment.
We don't want your opinion...
…just like you guys go rabid if we come over there after you lose. Show some class…oh yea, I forgot who you root for.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
Oh I'm sorry
I must’ve missed the sign where they asked for your opinion. It’s a public discussion board buddy, your acting like your defending a military base.
what productive comment would you like? You want me to say “the Pats are going to win it all” Fine..you got it, now you can leave a happier person. You weren’t “giving your opinion” you were being an annoying trolling douche. Like you always are, on all blogs.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
you gave it
why are you still here?
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
You're acting like I'm suicidal after this loss. Unlike you I knew my team wasn't winning anything this year.
I haven’t been hostile? You’ve come on my blog to troll over a game your team didn’t play in. If anything That’s pathetic. You still haven’t provided a single offense wins championships over defense example yet. I’ll wait. As a Pats fan you should know this, Justin Tuck right?
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
Yes
Me commenting on a Steeler blog is truly pathetic. You on the other hand who have already deleted to name calling like a 12 year old are the definition of class act. and apparently you missed the 2009 playoffs where’re Drew Brees and the best offense in the league won the superbowl against another offensive juggernaut that on it’s way to the superbowl took out the leagues best defense. Did you watch the 2010 playoffs either when Aaron
Rodgers fingerblasted his way through the league on his way to beating a top 3 defense in the superbowl? that was just the last 2 years buddy.
The Packers's defense was top 5 bud.
It wasn’t all Aaron Rodgers. You are proving our point.
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
Who said
It was all Aaron Rodgers? Of course the defense played a part, but good luck finding anyone who will agree that they played a bigger role than Aaron Rodgers and the offense.
Take a look at this season. The defense is dead last in the league and the team is better than ever. Why is that? Because the offense is that much better.
Take a look at the 2 superbowl favorites GB and NO. What do they have in common great offenses. in this day and age a great offense will outproduce a great defense more times than not. Stopping Tom Brady, Aaron Rodger, and Drew Brees is much tougher than scoring on the Steeler or 49er defense.
dude are you kidding? One bad game, in which he’s covering for a backup safety as well?
Welker had 11 yards against him. 11…
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He's typically very good
but he got absolutely worked today against WRs who of are a much lesser talent than Welker. That’s why it’s odd.
Can I Scream?
He did, no argument there. But. again, this has happened before with Clark out. He feels like he needs to play two positions. On top of that, he just played poorly all around today. But he has absolutely been a shutdown corner for most of this season (Fitz, Johnson, Wayne, Welker, sorta Green)
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Other way around Frank
Wonder why Clark has so many tackles? maybe cause he is covering Ike’s mistakes? Ike is not compensating for Clark, Clark makes Ike look better than he is.
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 9, 2012 9:19 AM EST up reply actions
I'm sorry
I’m not in the “we just lost, I’m pissed” mode. Or “He had a bad game, nothing he has ever done matters” mode.
I don’t agree with you, but it doesn’t matter. I didn’t say he was compensating for Clark (if I did, I didn’t mean it that way) I meant that with Clark out, he had to (or felt he had to) do more.
I assure you, he feels worse than you do. These things happen. Brady has sucked ass his last 3 playoff games, I guess he sucks.
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Not insinuating that is what you said, just looking at the same wreck from a different angle
I have seen a lot of comments making it seem as though Ike was going out of his way to compensate for Mundy being in the game. Mundy played according to the scheme, Ike was out of position and getting burnt all on his own, he simply was not able to cover the receivers in front of him in man to man coverage. Lebeau was selling out on the run and relying on his corners to cover and stop the pass, it has nothing to do with Clark or Mundy, this is all on Ike – he was not able to handle his duties.
The last play of the game was 100% on Ike, he had no over the top help, so he should have been playing inside technique in order to only give the sideline to the receiver, instead he played outside technique exposing the ENTIRE FIELD to the receiver and well, you saw how that worked out. Mundy was doing what he was told, he was up in run support. Troy also could have made a play on that last play, but backed off because Ike was there and should have wrapped it up, but then he got stiff armed and the rest is Bronco’s history…
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 9, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
Also, not trying to argue Frank, I just want to add clarity to what I am saying
Ike is very good at being in the receivers hip pocket, so a lot of times QB’s don’t take a chance going his way, because he is in position. But when he is thrown at – the receiver usually catches the ball or gets a PI call. Ike regularly gets burned or commits PI when he is thrown at – and we all know the boy can’t catch – 3 INT’s the most in a season? He has dropped more interceptions than the average Joe gets a chance at (cause like I said, he is usually in position).
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 9, 2012 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
It's the Steelers
We all know it’s never the players. It’s always the refs fault. That is the Steeler mantra.
“Next man up or blame it on the refs”
"Next season will be better" circa 1990
If you are here to troll, you won’t be here long.
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by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
Not trolling
I was reading the posts and decided to comment.
"Next season will be better" circa 1990
I wasn’t born yesterday.
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by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
If you continue trolling
I will be glad to
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by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
oh what the heck
toss him so he can feel good about himself.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
this is also why I should not be allowed the banhammer
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
You have to wield the banhammer lightly or you start wanting to solve all your problems with it.
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Probably not
too much paperwork if I ban someone. They really would have to earn it.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 10, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
Worst playoff game we've played in years.
So shut up and thank your lucky stars that you get to play one more game this season.
sure you had potentially a 14 point swing
On the non fumble call, but no that isn’t good enough. If Denver isn’t called for 20 penalties it just further proves the NFL’s conspiracy against the Steelers Damn it!
how was that not a fumble
thats what I don’t understand, the ball started coming out before his knees hit, its a fumble
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jan 8, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
Denver fans may be dumbfucks
Generally, the more affluent the football city, the dumber the fucks who root for the home team. Note Steelers vs Seahawks, 2005.
It's a Pats fan
which is surprising because most of the people I know in and around Boston are actually very bright but it could be this guy isn’t an MIT grad.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
If anyone was the 'home team' for SB XL it was Pitt.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
Oh, wow, you didn't understand my sentence at all . . .
Sorry . . . English may not be a good choice. Try a different language. Maybe Spanish. Or C++.
Why be bitchy? I'm not trolling.
Your sentence was ambiguous.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
Just out of curiosity (not calling you out or nothing) what are you doing here? Usually Seahawk fans aren’t the ones that are friendly around here lol
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he has been cool with me
and I don’t think he is trolling, unlike some Browns and Pats fans who are hanging about.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
Fair enough, yeah--
I don’t plan on staying long, I was just curious what you thought about the game. And I didn’t want to do my Con Law homework. My best friend here in Seattle is from Pitt, so I know your team well enough.
I’m trying to learn more about football, so was curious what you guys took away from today. Apart from a new LT I don’t see any big holes.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
I sorta disagree about the LT. He pretty much saved our season this year. He’s had a couple bad games, but he’s had a lot of really good ones.
And by the way, stay as long as you want. I was just curious man.
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I don't think he was trolling
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
Talking
About the backwards pass which was ruled incomplete and nullified the Brnocos recovery because the whistle blew.
yea it was the ref's fault that he blew that whistle
can’t deny that
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jan 8, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
That worked in p-burgh's favor
But, though I feel like it’s become a mantra around here, the amount of non-call on Harrison in particular, but the d-line in general, was excessive earlier today.
the Steelers played poorly enough to lose on their own- but, the refs certainly aided them in the effort.
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by lottwasgangsta on Jan 8, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
what’s up lott?
Unfortunately, your other boys are going to feel the full effect of that crap next week. Hopefully your coach comes up with some genius shit, because N.O’s o line is allowed to hold and hold some more
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I watched yesterday
And, while I like the Saints most times, and was rooting against the Lions, I couldn’t help but notice that Brees and Company got the full benefit of the “Jordan Rules”.
Given how successful the Saints have been on a fast track inside a dome, look for the 49ers to “accidentally” leave the sprinkler system on all night before they play the Saints.
“Sorry guys, didn’t do it intentionally…what’s that, you don’t have a running game? Sorry to hear that…oh well, them’s the breaks”.
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by lottwasgangsta on Jan 8, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
you gotta level the field. I hope they do. I wouldn’t mind your boys moving on
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Level the field...soak it...
different words, same idea.
It would be nice to see some of the NFL’s premiere QB’s gets Smith’d™; Brees, Rodgers, maybe Brady…
They can also get Willis’d, it would just be even more awesome if his last name were Smith too.
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by lottwasgangsta on Jan 9, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
They gotta do something. I’m serious. That game against the Lions was painful. Of course, maybe they’ll be on your side? Who knows, but like I said, I hope the coaches plan for that stuff.
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The Saint's have a very good running game
and you wouldn’t say that the Raiders 70s grounds crew took over the Niners sprinkler system
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by WVPiratesfan on Jan 9, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
that
was definitely a fumble. Mike Wallace has some great hands.
by pistil_stamen on Jan 9, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
Shut the fuck up and troll somewhere else.
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come on, man
when you have no backup D linemen, the front three are going to get gassed…it just wasnt our year.
…and LeBeau can rush the passer…I saw some game tape when he was with the lions. he’s a baller
We've got heads on sticks...
and he was a baller long after he became a coach
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHCnOTOZJKA
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
I massively agree
Worst defensive game plan in Steelers history. Half the plays there wasn’t even a single safety over top.
I love Lebeau and I bleed Black and Gold . . . but holy shit . . . a trained monkey could have thrown against that coverage!
Definitely deserves a good share of the blame.
That was one of the worst-coached games on the defensive side of the ball I’ve seen from the Steelers in some time. I don’t necessarily disagree with forcing Tebow to beat you with his arm, but there are ways to do that without resorting to man coverage (against a quarterback who has been awful against zone defenses all year). But what’s worse, is that when Tebow did start beating us with his arm, the game plan never changed. They kept calling defenses as if he hadn’t completed a pass all game, even though he had torched them repeatedly.
Though even if the defense had shut the Denver offense down, I’m sure our offense would have found a way to give the game back to them anyway.
by Steel Gator on Jan 9, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think Lebeau should get a lot of the blame
Some please explain to me why dick lebeau decided to put 11 in the box with bump and run coverage on the outside with no safety help on last play of game ? Ike had been getting torched all game , Lebeau should of kept everything in front of him and tried to hold them to a fg because that wouldnt of beat us . I would think dick would know this , thats beginner defense 101
Because running around blaming people doesn't work
when trying to deal with a tough loss.
But you keep pulling out your "refs-threw-the-game" card if that’s what you need for catharsis. You can use that card after every loss. It is a lifetime pass. Get it laminated. -Maryrose
by Twell on Jan 8, 2012 8:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Great Season
A lot of good things we saw. Still love my Steelers. Trolls cant comprehend that kind of loyalty and fandom as they only crawl from under the bridge when the weather is fair. Its been good Steeler faithful!
I'd sooner get Flacco'd out here in the middle of nowhere than lose face in front of my friends and family.
by steeltech on Jan 8, 2012 8:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The only thing that disappointed me about tgis game was that
Ike Taykor played so awful. Had he even had an average game, we would have won easily. Hopefully this motivates him and causes him to work even harder in the offseason than he normally does and he comes back even better next week
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Next year
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I was screaming about that all game.
From the PI call (which was bullshit) to all the passes he left over him…he really screwed the pooch on this one.
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by Jux on Jan 8, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
Remember the last time Mundy had to start?
Ike was over-compensating again and it cost us. But Tebow had like 6-7 seconds back there on some of those throws. They were running long, stop-and-go patterns and getting open.
+10
I wanthis head on a f&%king spike at the intersection of the 3 rivers as a warning to all who don’t give thier all in Pittsburgh. Taylor played like absolute crap, and we spent all that money and time resigning him this off season. Heads gotta roll this off season starting with him and BA.
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I guess your sig
explains everything. Thanks for sharing.
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by Rebecca Rollett on Jan 9, 2012 5:00 AM EST up reply actions
amen
Taylor looked like a rookie, it shows how valuable clark
That hurt,
a lot, but I love those guys. On the road, decimated by injuries, and they just don’t quit.
great game...
steelers we fought till the end!!!let’s getem next year
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HeyBayBay!!!
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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—Christopher Hitchens 1949-2011
ugh
I have some sympathy just because I find this stuff dumb and annoying.
InkyJohnson
GOD is trying to show the world something through Tim Tebow!
just now retweeted by jmcc65
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"The noble title of "dissident" must be earned rather than claimed; it connotes sacrifice and risk rather than mere disagreement."
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+1
I truly agree. I am so sick of this Tebow a$$kissing . Every guy on that field loves God and tires to live a righteous life. Why is Tebow so damn special? Makes me wanna puke!
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I was hoping you're guys lost
but seeing that shit makes me regret it.
I think I’m going to root for the hated Pats and F’ing Brady because I don’t want to see that BS again.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"The noble title of "dissident" must be earned rather than claimed; it connotes sacrifice and risk rather than mere disagreement."
—Christopher Hitchens 1949-2011
*your
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"The noble title of "dissident" must be earned rather than claimed; it connotes sacrifice and risk rather than mere disagreement."
—Christopher Hitchens 1949-2011
I wonder what Hitchens would say about Tebow's success?
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Jan 8, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
I imagine he'd have quite a bit of praise for the rest of Denver's roster
and Tebow’s raw physical skills.
Though as I remember he wasn’t much of a fan of American Football.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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—Christopher Hitchens 1949-2011
Some thoughts
1. Congrats to Denver – Pittsburgh played hurt and bad, but Denver made plays.
2. Hard not to pin this on coaching: The defensive scheme was overly aggressive and misguided. I think if we keep the safeties back Denver doesn’t score more than 13. Hard to know what was going on on the sideline with Kiesel and Hampton both down, maybe there was a sense of panic about leaving the D-linemen on the field – who knows? Coupled with little to know blitzing this was a disaster. Bottom line the Steelers gambled and gave a Tebow a chance to make easy throws into a wide open defensive backfield. You can’t leave a corner – any corner – one on one with a WR for longer than 5 seconds and expect good things.
3. Heroic game by Ben – shame to see it wasted
4. Amazing effort by Redman – ran hard, ran smart, blocked well and played without a back-up for 4 quarters.
1) Agreed. They played to win.
2) Some complained we didn’t get enough pressure. I was wondering about the play calling going both ways but maybe I will have a better idea when (if) I rewatch the game.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
Pats fan here, who was expecting to be hosting you guys next week.
Agreed on Steeler D in this game. They got blood-thirsty for the option, worn out, and took some big injuries. It’s amazing how little pressure they got on Tebow despite loading the box like they did. Too many guys were acting like a spy, too many expecting runs that never came.
It is what it is
Harrison was lost on many of those option runs
And the injuries didn’t help, although I dont know how Hampton and Kiesel would’ve helped us.
I cant believe I’m saying this, but good luck next week. I hope Brady hears about Tebow this week more than anybody on the planet so that he can be extra pissed going into the game.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jan 8, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
even worse than Jax?
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Would Ryan Clark...
…have made a difference on that last play? Seems crazy if that could’ve been the case.
Ike hasn't played this awful since his game against Javon Walker back in 2006
But no secondary can cover for 7-8 seconds. Front 7 gave us no pressure today.
But nonetheless, another good season from our Steelers. Already looking forward to the draft and to Ben/Pouncey getting some rest.
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holding
My kid, who is a Jets fan, was complaining about the officiating all game.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
One of the worst games of officiating I’ve ever seen. You can’t beat tthe other team and the Refs. If Harrison had that same hit like Wallace took to the head, they would probably kick him out of the league, but it’s OK al long as it’s on one of our players.
"Conan, What is best in life?" "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of their women!" - Conan the Barbarian
They held the shit out of Harrison, but we facemasked the shit out of Tebow twice too. It all comes out in the wash.
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
Which came first
The lack of calls leading to frustration on the part of the Steelers D maybe?
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
Penalties are penalties, motivated by frustration or not. Don't forget we lucked out big time on a bad whistle too.
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
Not sure about that
Its not like we were out there committing a ton of stupid penalties, we just didnt make any plays on defense. We deserved to lose.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jan 8, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
Harrison gets held all the time, way more calls and non-calls going thier way.
"Conan, What is best in life?" "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of their women!" - Conan the Barbarian
You guys are complaining about Harrison NOT getting a break from the officials?!?! Seriously?
You guys sound like he just speared you in the face with his helmet.
There were more than a few calls that went your way today. I saw a couple blatant face masks by the Steeler D go uncalled among several other things.
Countdown till “the decision II” Starring Kyrie Irving I just hope he doesn’t sugar coat the real reason he leaves
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better than the Cavs oddly enough.
Didn’t your team lose to the Rams? and almost everyone else?
was it 0-6 in the division, or 1-5? Same old same old.
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by FrankWyt on Jan 8, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I know we beat them twice.
I think the Steelers beat them twice as well, and I’m pretty sure the Ravens also did. So yeah, I think 0-6.
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So….the usual then hahahha
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
It’s nice to see you getting your mind off of your embarrassing loss to Tim Tebow.
Resident Tim Couch Apologist.
not all that embarrassing
With 8 backups starting and key players playing hurt and almost no depth left a some positions, I am impressed this team made the playoffs left alone came within a few plays of making the next round while playing on the road.
Call me the next time your team manages that.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
At least the Steelers made the playoffs.
by Jumpin Jack Flash on Jan 9, 2012 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
You're making fun of them for not having an NBA team?
I don’t think they care about that.
And I’ve been a Cavs fan for a long time (like, before I fully understood what Cleveland people were like) so I don’t want to change that, but it almost makes me puke to share fanhood of a team with people who are Browns fans.
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awww man. If you’re a Cavs fan I can’t say anything lol
I actually have nothing against any of the teams themselves. Just the miserable losers that “cheer” for them (in reality that means cheer for more successful teams to lose)
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
heh, you can still say what you want.
And like I said, I don’t like sharing a team with Cleveland fans but I just think of it as a team I’ve been cheering on for a very long time whose fans I don’t care about. And besides, they’re my third team because the NBA is my third league. The Bengals and Reds will always come before them.
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the NBA is tougher to like each year. I’ll probably never watch another game after Duncan/Ginobili/Parker are gone
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
Agreed on the NBA becoming tougher to like.
I’ve honestly only caught one and a half Cavs games so far this year. I barely care anymore.
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WE DON"T HAVE ONE GENIUS!
"Conan, What is best in life?" "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of their women!" - Conan the Barbarian
I know it was AWFUL!
Pittsburgh got off easy on at least 3 facemask penalties, their O-line was clearly holding Dumerville 2 times that I saw (and I only watched the game once), the refs GAVE Pittsburgh back a clear backwards pass that was fumbled and recovered by Denver. It was friggin atrocious all game long. Those refs should all be fired. I recommend your post. You speak TRUTH!
"Bombs dropping down overhead. Underground. It's instilled to want to live." -EV
I do speak truth
to the best of my ability. I don’t go to other fans sites and annoy people when their team losses.
I do also think officiating in the NFL is inconsistent at best and exhibits bias at worst. If you don’t like my opinion, too bad. Go back under your bridge and wait till next week.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
Ike T
looked bush league today. He made Tebow look brilliant.
Whole D was unprepared.
Someone needs to look into why this team is always injured to the hilt. There must be a problem in the conditioning program. I know there was a short training season to get ready but the Steelers were not the only ones on strike.
The air is thin in Denver
if you’re not used to it you can wake up in the middle of the night gasping for air because it’s that thin.
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by WVPiratesfan on Jan 9, 2012 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
This
I was on vacation in the SW this past summer and in Colorado I had to stop and breathe heavily after any physical exertion. It was the same thing with the rest of my family, too. We were there for three days and never really got acclimated.
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by LV Steelers Fan on Jan 9, 2012 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
Did you get up to Leadville?
Leadville is ridiculous. More than twice as high as Denver.
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No, but we crossed a 13,000 foot pass near Aspen
We almost didn’t stop at the summit because we were worried about the oxygen(or lack thereof), but in the end we got out for the view. It was spectacular, but even walking the 100 feet to the overlook was an adventure at that altitude. It was very cold, too.
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by LV Steelers Fan on Jan 9, 2012 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
I used to teach skiing in northern NM
and we always had a ton of Texans being taken down the mountain on the Sled-O-Doom because they got altitude sick. That’s probably the main reason that Denver has an extra-large home field advantage – their players are acclimated to it, other people’s aren’t. Even though I grew up at 7500 feet it takes me a week or more to adjust when I go home to visit.
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by Rebecca Rollett on Jan 9, 2012 5:12 AM EST up reply actions
great season through many injuries
Tebow kicked our ass, we did not respect him —we overplayed the run. Sorry, Coach LeBeau, but the defensive game plan sucked. Ben was good enough to win if the defense mans up. Got whipped, Ike especially, butthe game plan was defective.
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by madanthonywayne on Jan 8, 2012 8:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Ben was inconsistent early
and his receivers didn’t always help. If Ben had played better in the 1st half maybe we wouldn’t have needed to got to OT. Having said that, this loss gets credited to the injuries in my mind. We have just run out of healthy players and lacked the cohesion necessary to execute properly on offence. If Ben was healthy, he doesn’t make the mistakes and bad throws (or not as many).
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
Could have used that adreneline early
I think his mindset of being hurt made him take less chances and push himself in the first half
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I agree!!!
No need for 8 in the box… that’s the only way that he was gonna beat us by going over the top in single coverage.
AFC West....
…is Rivers’s to lose, I feel. Depending on when the Chargers decide to stop sucking, they make a run at the end and win the division.
Lovin the new Tebover Time
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lol yankees and saints.
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lol steelers and spurs
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no B ball teams in Pittsburgh genius.
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No baseball or football teams in Ottawa genius
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So you pick the best ones!
A fucking Ottawa fan trash talking a Penguins fan is hilarious. I can’t see you through the glare of my Stanley Cups.
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3>11
Try again.
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so…3 is greater than 11? That’s what you just said there. Nice!
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That would apparently be Jon Ross' thinking
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Ottawa actually won 18
which tells me that someone isn’t much of a Sens fan. 11 were won in a three year period as it was a challenge cup then. Only one since the NHL era (in the first year of the NHL) so I think the Pens can enjoy their triumph.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
How about that Sidney Crosby? He's doing sooo well this year
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Pretty ignorant comment
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by Black&GoldTrain on Jan 8, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
That was pretty lame
Why don’t you run down to the corner of Clarey and Bank. The is a store that will sell you something to help you forget that you are a Sens fan.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
How's the bandwagon?
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You must troll all over SB Nation. Saw you trolling the Falcons after their loss today.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Jan 8, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
Laughing as Nicks runs into the endzone.
Big troll. Calling over time Tebover Time after Tebow throws a touchdown on the first play of over time. Big troll.
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hard-fought game
brethren. Thanks for accepting me again. As far as I’m concerned, the issue with the Steelers is in the past, we have obtained just vengeance for five years ago. In any case, thanks for the nice rapport this week, have a nice offseason. Thank goodness there is no lockout. I’m sure you want us to beat the Patriots, thanks again for having me!
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congrats Brad. WOuld be nice if you didn’t have so much hatred in your heart, but whatever. Good luck next week
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 8, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
END OF AN ERA
Sorry to say, tonight we have witnessed the end of the recent era of Steeler dominance; they have a lot of weak links on this team, and truly are in the same place like the 1981 steelers. I just hope it won’t be another 25 years til they are great again. EVERY DOG HAS ITS DAY, PITT HAD A GREAT RUN!!!!!!
Ben is getting older, injury prone, we no longer possess a Dominant D, poor O line, end of careers soon for greats like Hines, Troy, Aaron, casey, Harrison, on and on. Impossible today to stay on top indefinitely!!! Thanks for getting us 2 more SB Wins!!
As long as you have a QB you have a shot. Terry was an 11 year vet in '81. Ben's only in his 8th year.
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reload, not rebuild
they have a lot of weak links on this team, and truly are in the same place like the 1981 steelers.
We have a long wait, but I think you will see this team have another strong run next year. Well set with good coaching (no matter what happened today), you8ong guys who have more experience, and a real leader as head coach.
But you keep pulling out your "refs-threw-the-game" card if that’s what you need for catharsis. You can use that card after every loss. It is a lifetime pass. Get it laminated. -Maryrose
sorry reply fail not for you
Who's laughing now, O Line??? Ben Roethlisberger (from the Podium) to his O-Line and the world in Superbowl XLIII
I agree
When healthy, this is a heck of a team. Add in a couple of pieces from the draft and we will be back and better.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
It nice to not mortage the farm
for one desperate shot
But you keep pulling out your "refs-threw-the-game" card if that’s what you need for catharsis. You can use that card after every loss. It is a lifetime pass. Get it laminated. -Maryrose
Future??
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-1,000,000
Who's laughing now, O Line??? Ben Roethlisberger (from the Podium) to his O-Line and the world in Superbowl XLIII
for Stefan
Who's laughing now, O Line??? Ben Roethlisberger (from the Podium) to his O-Line and the world in Superbowl XLIII
Stefan Logan is still sour we cut him
I understand his pain
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by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
I disagree
We have had a good run, but it is only over for this season. I expect the Steelers to be back and better next year.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
I think you are wrong
What this teams needs is to not play the dumbest coached and dumbest played game ever. They let Tebow beat them. I will not give him any credit and I am not saying this because I hate the guy because I don’t, I am a Tebow fan. Shit he helped one of my Fantasy Teams win. but The coaching staff and a couple players needs to look at there careers after this game one in particular Ike Taylor.
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I know our teams don’t like each other much, but I can empathize with you guys today. It hurts to lose, and we just went through it yesterday. But the Steelers are going to be back next year, as strong as ever, and the result should be different. The Steelers damn near won the best division in football this year and lost a playoff game in the toughest stadium in football in OT. Nothing to be ashamed of. For a team like the Steelers, I know it’s Super Bowl or bust every year, but you should step back and enjoy this. Fans of most other teams would appreciate a season like this one.
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by sexsalad on Jan 8, 2012 8:35 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Thanks bro...
The future looks bright for the Bengals…and I’m naturally not too pleased that’s the case..
classy comment.
Dalton and Green are one heck of a QB/WR duo that is going to cause a lot of problems for years to come.
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by Black&GoldTrain on Jan 8, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
Soooooo glad A.J. Green is not in my division.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks but I did expect this
I also expected to win this game but the Team let me down for probably the first time.
its hard to beat the fighting tebows
and jesus too.
who knows, i can’t explain how tebow keeps winning in the nfl, thought for sure that one d-cord who couldn’t be fooled by the college system in denver was dick lebeau. there’s always next season for the steelers. the gimmick in denver won’t last long, nobody can make a career out of that.
as for steelers and bengals fans, we still have the ratbirds to hate which we always bond over. go texans~
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We were unprepared and it showed.
Ben didn’t find any rhythm until near the end of the first half. And when a couple of our defensive starters went down, the D fell apart.
I m not that disappointed
Steelers were severely injured. Even if they somehow won this they would have lost next week. At least Denver will show some fight, hopefully.
Ike Taylor picked a bad game to have his worst performance. His team mates we injured and he was one of the healthy DB in this game….a starter. In all the TD drives he was killed by those long passes.
For this game the blame falls on both sides but more on defense. They gave 300+ yards to Tebow. No one had done that yet. It also seemed that they were totally unprepared for the option run play, when that is the staple play by the Broncos.
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- Denver rookie QB John Elway, on Jack Lambert, after Lambert and the Steelers knocked Elway out of his first game as a pro (1983).
And yet...He was our best cover corner, and Denver didn't even have to pick on the rest of our DBs
to be successful…The good thing for the Steelers is hopefully we can get a good draft going and come back healthy and better next year
If he’s our best cover corner, we are in trouble as far as the secondary goes.
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Well...unless you're saying William Gay is our best...
Not forgetting we’ve been putting Ike on the Welkers, the Andre Johnsons, the Larry Fitzgeralds..
You didn't already know he was our best corner?
Where have you been the last 3 years?
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by StoneColdSteel on Jan 8, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
Great season Steelers
Hard to see it end but the fact we had all the injuries and the prognosticators predicting the Steelers winning easily gave me an early ulcer. Then as the game unfolded as much as I hate Denver, I can’t be pissed at Tebow especially after hitting some of those throws.
Does this mean Pouncey will play next week. LOL.
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by SaratogaSteelerFan on Jan 8, 2012 8:36 PM EST reply actions
Tough break...
It was a pretty fun game to watch. Somebody had to lose and unfortunately it was you guys. Could have gone either way.
Cheers from Colts-land.
Steelers will be back
One of the key plays in this game was the bad snap to Ben near the end of the first half, costing at least a shot at a field goal. Strange to see so many bad snaps, many came back too hard, forcing BR to readjust.
The injuries, especially on defense, just proved to be too difficult to overcome in this contest. I see no reason why the club won’t be serious contenders next season.
DEFENSE
One more thing; i think LeBeau’s Zone Blitz Defense may be a thing of the past; obviously other teams have figured it out how to beat it esp if they have a QB. I Think Pitt needs a new OC and maybe DC as well; and DRAFT SOME STUDS ALREADY!!
stupid
Steelers were #1 scoring defense. The way the rules are now no defense will be dominant. Down to 3 def lineman against a running team steelers had to stuff the box. Plus much of first half broncos started in PITs side of field
by Unleashed on Jan 8, 2012 9:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I blame Coach Dad waaay more than I blame Ike Taylor.
Covering a speedster, one-on-one is nearly impossible and LeBeau put Ike in that position all first half. He didn’t do it in the second half until overtime and it cost us bigtime. Our safetys shouldn’t be at the LOS. Tebow isn’t a HS QB. Poor coaching. What are you gonna do? Ike didn’t step up, but he was put in position to fail.
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
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If he can’t get the job done, we should not have resigned him. It’s not a secret that our corners are our weakness and he’s the worst one. He has to go.
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Boy you sound dumb.
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
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You think Ike Taylor is the worst cornerback on our team?
Go ahead coach, who else should start?
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
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I didnt say he was the worst
But he is not the best and we need to seriously think about some younger options. His key thing used to be speed and that last pass shows that he has lost it.
Who is the best then? Gay? Lewis? Christ, be serious.
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Seriously
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by John Stephens on Jan 10, 2012 8:57 AM EST up reply actions
Taylor has been our best corner
but when Clark is out he tends to overcompensate. On the last play I wonder if Mundy wasn’t the one out of position.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
Probably not.
That looked like the same defensive formation we ran for the majority of the first half. I think once he realized it was play action he sprinted back, but it was too late, and he was too far away from the play from the start.
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-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
give me a beak
Mundy is NOT responsible when Taylor gets completely turned around twice on one play!
Mundy
I was wondering if he was supposed to be providing coverage underneath.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
he was not deep enough on that play
considering that was the first time they threw on first down all night, I can understand how he bit on the PA
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by WVPiratesfan on Jan 9, 2012 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
BS
Ike was out of position on the last play, he should have been playing inside technique with no help over the top, instead he played outside technique and gave up the ENTIRE field. Should the coach tell him his individual techniques every down? Ike isn’t that good.
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 9, 2012 8:58 AM EST up reply actions
I don't disagree with any of that, and to be sure Ike fucked up.
But regardless, do you think it’s advisable to be in zero coverage when the opponent is first and ten at their own 20? I don’t care if Mel freaking Blount is back there, it’s a huge risk to ask him to defend the entire field. Hell, one slip is the ball game. A bad defensive play by Ike exacerbated a bad defensive call by Dick.
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-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
True, but that was on Troy, he cheated up
he had deep coverage.
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 10, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
thanks for the class u showed
at MHR hopefully those refs will go to NE with us lol if we can play like today and rattle brady we can beat NE
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I cant complain about the refs, especially with the way that Ike played. Always good talking to you j-man.
Good luck next week.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jan 8, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
Congrats j-man -
I’m truly happy for you, and I hope the Broncos beat the tar out of the Pats…
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by Rebecca Rollett on Jan 9, 2012 5:20 AM EST up reply actions
Congrats J-Man
A well fought win.
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 9, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
Willie Clark i slame.
"I mean, the dude lit us up.I would have bet my paycheck that he would not have beat us passing the ball...."
Robby Johnston
he’s the one
But you keep pulling out your "refs-threw-the-game" card if that’s what you need for catharsis. You can use that card after every loss. It is a lifetime pass. Get it laminated. -Maryrose
Clark wouldn't have made a difference either.
Mundy wasn’t bad. Clark would have been in the same alignments all game. Nothing he could have done on that last pass, or any of the deep ones for that matter.
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
I don't blame anything or anyone in particular.
This was a total team loss to a mediocre, 8-8 Broncos team that backed into the playoffs and which isn’t getting anywhere near the SB.
sure
but I think if we played Steelers defense instead of selling out on the option we win this game by 13. It just seems we gave up tons of big plays to avoid giving up 7 yard runs on first down.
by SteelerBuddha on Jan 8, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
We're the Arizona Cardnials the same way
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by WVPiratesfan on Jan 9, 2012 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
This team had to over come too much
How many injuries can a team take and keep going? The Steelers stood up to the challenge…but by this final game….we have to realize 3/4 of the starting D was hurt. The O had lost it’s RB and it’s QB was badly damaged for 4 weeks.
Still proud of the stillers battled through alot adversity this year.
The front 7 is a problem. We have not be get pressure all season. This has been a problem and it showed.
Seeing how are entire DL starters were out we were in trouble. Not to mention we were missing a lot our starting DBs and it hurt.
We need a OL and again it showed. Ben deserves to be protected and needs to be protected.
BA I think you just signed your ticket out of Pittsburgh. it has been a fun run with you but your play calling sucks. With the talent on offense there is no way we should be having the
by steeler_in_maryland on Jan 8, 2012 8:47 PM EST reply actions
+1
Arians once again showed that he’s quite stubborn and way too predictable. But who’d havr dreamed that our D would play so poorly in a playoff game?
Sorry Gang, I keep seeing the notes about a great season and I can't agree.
From losing the Super Bowl to losing in the first round, the only plus I get out of this is at least we made the play-offs. Otherwise, this season was a bust.
Injuries happen every year, so no blame goes there.
I understand that waiting for our Steelers to play the pefect game is never going to happen, but that being said, this is a step back in my mind.
Our offense, once again, did not match the potential, and while there were sparks here and there, it wasn’t up to par.
The Defense, before today, ended up having a damn good season.
Until we learn the killer instinct against teams we should kill, I’m afraid that we’re going to continue with these tight games.
Let’s face it, BB’s 4th Q magic isn’t going to happen every game, so it sure would be nice to put some of our games out of reach much early than we do.
Poor off-season conditioning was a huge factor.
Woodley was practically useless for the entire second half of the season. Ben was on-and-off gimpy at the worst possible stretch of the season. At all costs, we need to find a way to better protect Ben and improve our offensive scheme.
Funny, parts of your comment I bet I could find the last couple of years.
The better protection of Ben and improvement of offensive scheme. Offensive scheme, I’m not betting on.
Better protection, based upon our shiny wide-out toys, would be a help. Gilbert played well, especially as a rookie. That being said, we seem to be far removed from the good old days of a superior line….
There's going to be several big question marks this off-season for the Steelers
QB situation
Farrior, Ward, Aaron Smith
Do we bring back Will Gay, Cotchery
You're kind of right
Ben will take more shots next year, and he was getting teed of on becuase he wouldn’t run in the first half, nice to see him use that to his advantage in the second.
Draft a QB, Ben’s got 2-3 years unless he adjusts his style of play.
But you keep pulling out your "refs-threw-the-game" card if that’s what you need for catharsis. You can use that card after every loss. It is a lifetime pass. Get it laminated. -Maryrose
William Gay had a great season this year
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by WVPiratesfan on Jan 9, 2012 12:32 AM EST up reply actions
Gay and Cotchery will be back before Ward and Smith...
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 10, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
Steelers need to draft a dominant offensive line
1) Then they can run the ball, sell the play-action, protect Ben for the deep throws, get 7 instead of 3 in the red zone, and melt the clock at the end.
2) Gotta get a replacement for Big Snack who can plug the middle and bring pressure.
3) Fix the kicking game.
4) kick the fixing game
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
kicking game didn't lose this one.
I can’t disagree with the rest.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
priority
Pouncy Gilbert should be starter. Draft 2 to three tackles move on or two of them to guard. I think our young DBs can develop. Get another TE although I like saunders long run.
Also I would like a sproles style back as a game breaker. Hopefully clay gets better bc then we could have a pounder isaac rashard and a speedster
by Unleashed on Jan 8, 2012 9:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Embarassing
EMpty set- Embarrassing, no way should they have been in that formation that much. Especially at the end. What were they thinking?
Defense was awful. They were in man way too much. Ike was exposed and embarrassed. Think it is time to get some faster backers. But the key was scheme. Wrong for most of the game on both sides of the ball. Too many ‘splash’ plays for the young gun TEBOW!
Not enough help over the top. Period.
Knew it would end this way as they were really not sharp for the start of the game to force them to be one dimensional. Made tebow look like elway 2.0 Embarrassing
In the final analysis we were exposed for what wee really are: We are a finesse team with a very soft offensive line as well as a soft secondary regarding pass coverage. Please donttalk to me about how great the pass d is please. You have to deliver when it counts- we did not. Time to retool. The 12 win season as well as last years Super Bowl was a gift from Santa.
Impose your will.
I hate the empty set on 2-8
especially against a team with two great pass rushers.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
Ugly season.
This offense hasn’t reached its potential, ever. BA needs to go, if for nothing else to shake things up.
We’re about to cut a bunch of veterans. I honestly doubt we sniff the Super Bowl for years.
Don't agree
Steelers will be right in the thick of it next yr. This was, sort of a retooling yr and still a playoff game
I think we are back in the thick of it next year
Who are we losing that will keep us away?
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
In other news
The Ravens showered Harbaugh with Gatorade after the Broncos scored
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by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2012 8:51 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
if you believe that all of the ravens players were chilling with harbaugh watching the game and they had a gatorade shower ready, then no — its dead ass serious.
100%. And clearly I was with them, because that’s who I watched the game with.
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by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
you traitor! Oh wait…sarcasm? Sarcasm all over?
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
I know!
Me neither.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
I can actually see that happening.
No joke.
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by Jux on Jan 8, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
I hope you're kidding about that
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Jan 8, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
take it from someone living behind enemy lines in Bmore
it could be serious. I’m surrounded by folks who seriously claim to be as happy or happier when we lose as they are when the Ravens win
i live in maryland too. trust me, I’ve seen the FB statuses
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by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
Fitting
that Ike was burned for 80 yards to end the game. He was in the running for MVP of the Broncos all game and managed to lock up the honor in overtime.
His Co-MVP Mr “I crash inside and forget my contain responsibilities” Harrison tried hard for the honor, but it was an impossible task after Denver realized that by throwing at Ike they could get either a huge gain, a TD, or a flag whenever they wanted.
Both Ike and Harrison should wear ski masks when they pick up their paychecks because they are flat out stealing.
I’m going to go throw up now, since I live in Denver and any semblance of sanity is now gone with this choke job by our defense. One freaking turnover produced, and that was by a backup! Yes, the fact that our defense couldn’t make any big plays all season showed up in the playoffs. Yes again that our offensive redzone offense sucked big time ( even the TD I HATED that call by Arians).
I hate everything you just said…I also agree with most of it. Except the ski mask part. Those guys are huge reasons the team did as well as they did, but yes, that was easily the worst game I’ve ever seen Ike play, and one of the worst I’ve seen Harrison play.
Troy is a very good player, but the Broncos took him to school. They knew he would be aggressive and all over the field and they used that against him.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 9, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
That’s actually completely incorrect. There was one play that they took advantage of Troy making a bad read. They did not “take him to school” throughout the game. Troy was reading their plays quite often, but Ike was beat so badly on a consistent basis it made no difference.
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by John Stephens on Jan 9, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
We’ll have to agree to disagree on this, but more than a few of their deep passes were routes Troy jumped early. He’s a very feast or famine player. Sometimes he makes great plays because of how aggressive he is, and sometimes he gets burned.
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I’m not really agreeing to disagree. You’re not correct. I’ve watched the game 3 times over and that’s not what happened. Troy played the majority of the game at the line and only got fooled badly on the one TE post route.
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by John Stephens on Jan 10, 2012 8:59 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not going to argue with you, but I don’t agree.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 10, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
Harrison was not that much of an impact this year
Yeah he was out here and there, and he did have a good game against the Ravens in the second game, but really was not an impact the rest of his games. He got dominated in both games against Cleveland with Joe Thomas.
by lamberts58 on Jan 8, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
To be fair, 1/4 of his games every year are against Joe Thomas and Andrew Whitworth.
Doing anything against either of them is impressive.
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I hate everything I just said too
but the fact is that Ike sucked worse today than (gasp) Gay ever did. I can’t remember seeing him picked on so regularly by anybody – and he NEVER once stepped up to the challenge.
As for Harrison – just how many times does he need to get burned by crashing inside and letting Tebow scamper around the edge that was HIS responsibility.
Absolutely pathetic effort. I’d expect better from a pair of 5th round injured rookies from Fresno.
Harrison had no clue. Can you imagine him defending Oregon? TD after TD after TD haha.
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Hope this doesn’t come off as trolling, but how much do you think the absence of Clark had to do with the loss? Thanks in advance for any responses.
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a lot- troy was out of position and ike, well played like ike.
Impose your will.
It mattered a shitload
He is the brains of the secondary and a lot of plays people looked lost and i think if Clark was tgere it would have made a difference
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by seton hall and steelers on Jan 8, 2012 8:55 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
On the last play, was #29 totally out of position or did I misread the play?
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I think he was right where he was supposed to be. Which is the bad part.
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It only mattered
After Hampton and Keisel went down
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by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2012 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
Did they go down before the 1st TD?
I missed part of the game.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
Hampton was before the first TD. ON the first series I think. Keisel was on the 1st TD.
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by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
are you a guy or girl?
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well, if you’re a dude, the answer is no
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by FrankWyt on Jan 8, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Language lap
I understand the frustration, guys, but please keep the language at least kind of clean.
Don't call me mate
Do I look like a South American coffee substitute?
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
No thanks
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jan 8, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
someone untying your shoes?
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then retying them and throwing the things on the highest power line
by klompus on Jan 8, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
we CANNOT complain about the refs
because as many bad calls went against us – one of our TD’s in the second half should have been a fumble by Wallace instead which would have given the Broncos the ball on our 18.
The refs were bad, but our play was far far worse.
They were bad both ways
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by WVPiratesfan on Jan 9, 2012 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
The officiating was awful, I won’t argue that. But don’t pretend it didn’t help keep you in the game. I mean, one of your touchdown drives should have ended in a fumble in your own territory.
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You won the game
Don’t be a jackass. Nothing more ignorant than presuming points based off a chain of plays that would have resulted if the official had made the correct call.
Ya know what would have also prevented points on that drive? Denver keeping Pittsburgh out of the end zone. Which one of those things does Denver control?
He’s a Browns fan. The guys that root against other teams more than they root for their own team.
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by FrankWyt on Jan 8, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’m not presuming points, I’m presuming that drive would have ended. There was no chain of plays, it should have ended on that play.
That was a great game. I think Pitt had more talent, but Denver out-coached you guys, especially with their offensive game plan. I’m obviously happy the Steelers lost, I won’t try to hide that.
I honestly wouldn’t mind you guys at all if it weren’t for the excuses. Up and down this board all I see is “the refs this” or “injuries that.” Save it. Every team deals with injuries to key players and calls that don’t go their way. In fairness a lot of people here have been able to admit that they just got beat, but those people are in the minority.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 9, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
I’m really curious, why do you care if people make excuses or not? Even more confusing, why do you care in a game your team is not involved in?
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by John Stephens on Jan 9, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
What else
would a browns fan do during the post-season besides care about other teams?
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What will you be doing now that you’ve got just as much to show for your season as me?
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Think back
On all the times I can personally remember winning AFC titles, super bowls, and playoff victories. Maybe rewatch some old games….Now that I think about it I’ll watch the browns last two playoff games in 20 years. Not sure if I’ll enjoy 2004 when Pittsburgh came back from a 17 point deficit outscoring you 29–9, or in 1994 when we blew out out by 20 points.
I’ll probably even root for the texans a bit since I live in houston, but you won’t see me trolling through teams boards after a tough loss. I respect that they’ve gotten that far and have a little bit of class. But again as a fan of a team that hasn’t won a championship since 1964 or had a playoff run in 20 years of this must be a really hard time of year for you.
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by Jux on Jan 9, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not trolling anyone. I’ve been very up front about how good your team is. You have had the better of the Browns for about a decade. Keep in mind, however, that it took that decade of beating an expansion franchise to pull the all time record to even. If you’re going to fall back on history, why not include all of it?
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by notthatnoise on Jan 10, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
Deep down I like people. I like interacting with them. I want to be able to speak to Steeler fans without this ignorant drivel getting in the way on both sides. Wining about injuries and calls hinders that. That’s why I care about excuses. I like to hold people to higher standards, any people, regardless of what team they root for.
The reason I care about this game is because I’m a football fan. I’m not just a Browns fan. If the Browns were gone I would still watch football. I wouldn’t root for anyone in particular, but I would still watch. That was a great game last night, and I’ll be damned if I missed it because my favorite team wasn’t playing.
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The Browns lose a lot, and that sucks. But you know what Browns fans don’t do? Make excuses. We know when we were beaten. I would like to believe there are some mature fans here who are gracious in defeat, but outside of a few people I don’t see that. The fans here refuse to admit they were beaten. It’s always some external thing they had no control over that went against them, or some unfair bias, never that the team just got beat.
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You know what Browns fans do do? They act like little children, who can’t treat another adult with any form of respect because their team wears Black & Gold. Get off your high horse and realize that your group of fans is no shining example of how to be a fan.
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by John Stephens on Jan 10, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions
I want to be able to speak to Steeler fans without this ignorant drivel getting in the way on both sides.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 10, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
It takes two to tango. And I don’t see any fans of this website eager to interact with Browns fans after how that “Ask a Steelers Fan” thread went down this year. And coming here, after a heart-wrenching loss for all Steelers fans, to talk about how people making excuses isn’t acceptable to you, doesn’t help.
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by John Stephens on Jan 10, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
There were Steeler fans who came to our site after both games, so please step off your soap box.
It takes two to tango.Do I have to quote my comment back to you again? I have said twice now that Browns fans are far from innocent here.
I didn’t come here to talk about excuses. I wanted to know what changes you guys thought your team needed to make. I wanted to know what you think you learned about your team from that loss. But all I found was excuses, so that’s what I commented on. It’s hard to talk about what you think went wrong when the only answer you seem to get is the refs.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 10, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
There were Steeler fans who came to our site after both games
I can’t say that I blame them after how you all acted in that aforementioned thread. Also, I’m on a chair, why would I sit on a soap box? (see how that snark doesn’t aid, but takes away from a discussion?)
You didn’t come to talk about excuses, but that’s what you did? There are PLENTY of comments in this thread and around this site from people not making injury or blown call excuses.
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by John Stephens on Jan 10, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
Last sentence got cut off, should have read "But you chose to talk about the “excuses” and not the actual analysis."
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by John Stephens on Jan 10, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Look, I’m big enough to admit fans on both sides were out of line. I’ve admitted as much multiple times to multiple people. This is a give and take thing though. You can’t pretend your guys weren’t involved in that pregame thread.
I’ve been involved in some of the analysis conversations when they come up. Maybe you should pay closer attention to your own thread.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 10, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
Who made it your job to judge people for how they view a game or make it your responsibility to hold them to a “higher” standard? That whole paragraph sounded really arrogant and condescending. If people want to ascertain some sort of solace from a game by believing injuries or poor calls played a part, who are you to tell them they can’t? It’s not your job to tell them they are right or wrong.
Being such a big football fan, why aren’t you posting on the Broncos site as well? It appears to me, you came to the Steelers site with some sense that you are the dictator on how someone else should feel after the game. It’s borderline trolling IMO.
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by John Stephens on Jan 10, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
Please, this is not trolling. I’m not on the Broncos board because I know less about their team and frankly there isn’t as much to talk about. The Steelers matter to me more than the Broncos. All I would have to say to the Broncos fans is congratulations. I would want to know what they think about Tebow, but I’m sure they’re sick of talking about that.
I’m not telling anyone they can’t blame injuries or the ref. They are free to do so. But I’m also free to tell them they are acting like children. I like talking to knowledgeable fans, not fans who refuse to see what happened. It’s not my job, but it’s not anyone’s job to be posting here except for the blog owner. If people want to blame the refs or injuries they are going to continue to be ignorant to the real deficiencies on their team. And believe me, as a Browns fan I know a lot about team deficiencies.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 10, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
Stating facts is acting like children?
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 10, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not telling anyone they can’t blame injuries or the ref.
That’s actually exactly what you are doing. Telling them not to do so, because it makes them children is what you are doing.
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by John Stephens on Jan 10, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
I’m saying they shouldn’t, not that they can’t.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 10, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
Here is the injury report Mr. Superiority
35 Batch, Baron RB 5-10 210 24 R Texas Tech
31 Brown, Curtis DB 6-0 185 23 R Texas
54 Carter, Chris LB 6-1 248 22 R Fresno State
46 Chavis, Miguel DE 6-5 285 23 R Clemson
38 Clanton, Erik LB 6-3 238 24 R The Citadel
74 Colon, Willie T 6-3 315 28 6 Hofstra
27 Dwyer, Jonathan RB 5-11 229 22 2 Georgia Tech
76 Hoke, Chris NT 6-2 305 35 11 Brigham Young
4 Leftwich, Byron QB 6-5 250 31 9 Marshall
34 Mendenhall, Rashard RB 5-10 225 24 4 Illinois
9 Sepulveda, Daniel P 6-3 230 27 5 Baylor
91 Smith, Aaron DE 6-5 298 35 13 Northern Colorado
Allen, Cortez DB Shoulder DNP DNP DNP Out
Harrison, James OLB Toe DNP DNP FP Probable
Keisel, Brett DE Groin DNP DNP FP Probable
Legursky, Doug G Shoulder FP FP FP Probable
Moore, Mewelde RB Knee DNP DNP DNP Out
Polamalu, Troy SS Calf DNP DNP FP Probable
Pouncey, Maurkice C/G Ankle LP DNP DNP Questionable
Roethlisberger, Ben QB Ankle LP FP FP Probable
Scott, Jonathan T Back - LP FP Probable
Woodley, LaMarr OLB Hamstring FP FP FP Probable
You only start with 53 players, I guess we are just big babies, whah whah whah. Heaven forbid we are actually correct in our sentiment that had the squad not been almost entirely on crutches, the outcome would likely have been different.
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 10, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
The mere act of pointing out deficiencies and injuries is not the same thing as making excuses
And you will have to excuse some fans for not being able to let go of the dream a day or two days after a brutal loss to an inferior opponent. Fact of the matter is the Bronco’s had their best game of the year against a decimated Steelers squad – that is reality, no excuses neccesary. Does that mean they didn’t win? Not the last time I checked. Bronco’s still move on and Steelers still go home. And I am pretty sure that here on a Steelers blog would be the appropriate place to come lament the loss right? So what is it exactly you are here to do? I am pretty sure if you reach deep and take a look in the mirror you are here to gloat, regardless of how you want to characterize your visit, so who is wrong in this scenario? Steeler fans on a Steeler blog lamenting the what ifs? Or Browns fans coming to feel superior for something that their team was unable to accomplish?
So all that being said, yes, the Steelers have a lot to work on this offseason and and once again they will have to do it while drafting much later in the rounds than the Browns and once again, they will do it better than the Browns.
Get it straight, your reasons for being here are not nearly as genuine as you would have everyone believe. I am a big football fan too, but I am not on on other teams boards telling them how they should feel about their teams.
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 10, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
My reasons for being here are perfectly genuine. If I wanted to start a flame war that would have been easy.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 10, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
and what is a flame war, sounds like something I am not into...
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 10, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
he comes back
AS DOES HAMPTON AND KEISEL – renegotiate the contracts first.
Impose your will.
I’d love to see a last Hurrah for all of those guys. This is not the right way for them to go out in the least.
by StuckinFortWayne on Jan 8, 2012 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
What incentive do the players have to renegotiate?
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by notthatnoise on Jan 10, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
Not having to play for the Browns?
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 10, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
Oh you got me there.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 10, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
I'm shocked he survived that explosion in "The Dark Knight Rises."
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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by shake n bake on Jan 8, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The speed!
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can't blame the refs
Blame BA/ I love my 5 wide- should make a bleeping sandwich called the 5 wide and shove it up in his…
Blame Ike and yes blame lebau who has seen it all.
Impose your will.
I think you guys are giving Arians too much crap. With an injury to your QB and playing some really tough defenses (including the other three teams in your division) you were still middle of the pack in points scored.
As far as the whole 5 wide thing, the strength of your offense is the QB and WRs. Mendenhall is decent, but overrated. Your receivers, on the other hand, are all pretty good. This is a passing league, and you’ve got the pieces to do it.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 9, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
We would like a change at OC, is that okay with you?
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 10, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
You guys obviously know more about your offense than I do (not sarcasm). I’m just saying that this is a passing league now, and you guys have a good quarterback and a lot of good receivers. You have a decent running back, but your best option seems to be going with four or five wide and airing it out.
I don’t know if Arians is carrying that gameplan out correctly, but it isn’t a bad idea. Your team is built to pass, they might as well take advantage of it.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 10, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
That is exactly the point
BA isn’t taking full advantage. We run wide receiver screens so often, that linebackers (Suggs) are jumping WR routes and getting interceptions. We can’t run a RB screen to save our lives even though we have had very competent receivers at RB, Mendenhall and Moore both have very good hands, and Redman has good hands, yet we can’t run a screen for a gain? Ben continues to take brutal hits instead of getting rid of the ball (even Dalton knows when to get rid of the ball), and no effort is being made to curtail that tendency. We have fantastic receivers at TE, but we use them much more to block than pick up 1st downs. We have a lot of offensive fire power, but we are ranked 22nd in the league in scoring? We could be much better on offense. Especially Ben, he is damn good, but could be a lot better if he eliminated negative plays.
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 11, 2012 9:19 AM EST up reply actions
So sad
We had great season.. That’s alright stealers.. Tebow shinning now.. But next year it be different! Good game
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Steelers get the 24th draft pick, I think
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and are all but guaranteed to continue to ignore the interior of the worst offensive line in football. lets pay a quarterback 100 million dollars hyuk hyuk oh wait you need an o line too?
i wouldn’t mind if they wait to take a G in the 2nd and get a ILB or NT. The draft is deep with interior OL
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by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
That is the kind of Mocking I enjoy
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
this
they have to take a G in the first two rounds, but the only way I take one in the first is if DeCastro falls to us.
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jan 8, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
If he falls to 18-20 we should trade up
One stud OG is a ll the OL needs to be very good, assuming that they stay reasonably healthy. Which apparently is impossible.
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by LV Steelers Fan on Jan 8, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
thats all i wamted to know now.
The ignominy of losing at the hands of the broncos… too much to bear. I predict they will lose by at least 17 pts to the Pats.
Yes sir
That puts us in a good position for players like Cordy Glenn, Dont’a Hightower, Vontaze Burfict, and Dontari Poe in the first.
In the second: Lucas Nix, Josh Chapman, Alameda Ta’amu, or LaMichael James.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jan 8, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
I'd rather get Burfict than Hightower
Much more athletic
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by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Even though he is considered a headcase?
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
I think the Steelers and Ravens could handle someone like him.
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by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
Tomlin could motivate him
and this is a strong locker room. He is a great player though, I’m sure the Steelers would interview him to make sure but the last time we took a chance on a guy was Holmes who had a skechy past but that was on offense where there wasn’t a lot of vet leadership except Hines, the defense is chop full of it. I would loved if he panned out for us.
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jan 8, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
He removes people's souls when he hits them though
so he’s a younger Deebo
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by WVPiratesfan on Jan 9, 2012 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
Burflict has more upside
But he also has the risk that Hightower doesn’t have. I trust out FO in the draft.
Would be very happy with any combination of the above players (though I threw James into the mix only if Mendy is hurt too bad to produce next season).
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jan 9, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
We’ve had discussions about Burflict too. It would be one thing if he just had problems on the field, those are coachable. But apparently he doesn’t take coaching well and causes problems in the locker room. Those are big issues. Someone will take that risk though.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 9, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
Steelers played a great 2nd half
We were too injured to go all the way this year. I wouldn’t be so quick to blame folks who helped us win superbowls. Is it Hines Ward fault we lost too? We were not going to win it all this year so we get better draft picks and get younger next year. Hampton and Farrior were great but they are done. Keisel can play if he’s healthy and I really hope Ward comes back and stays healthy as a 5th receiver. We need better offensive line and we need to run the ball more. We ran with authority today and would have won in regulation if we ran more. Ben’s injury hurt us along with no Ryan Clark, Hampton or Keisel or Pouncy & Mewelde Moore. Ike did not play well and neither did Troy. Issac Redman is the real deal and should have been fed the rock even more.
We just gotta suck it up and enjoy the rest of the playoffs. We were not going all the way this year – we had to lose sometime…
60 minutes...plus one
Thats what we needed to play. We did not.
Impose your will.
Fuck, we played 45 minutes. Took off the 2nd and 5th quarters.
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Ike played like he was injured
the kind of injury you only can get with a can of lysol and a plastic bag.
He was brain dead today.
My thoughts on this sad day.
the only consolation that I can take from this game, is that it IS just a game, I got more important things in life that Steelers football…. AND our defense and offense had suffered too many injuries to be able to compete well next week against New England. We couldn’t have beaten the Patriots next week, anyways. Not with all of those injuries.
i’m fresh out of LOLs
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by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
I have to get the kids off for school in the morning
or I might start on my Coruba.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
whats a coruba
(excuse my ignorance)
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Cheap Dark Rum
None of that fancy pants Capt Morgan for me.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
Cheers then
Mix that with some ginger beer and some lime and you got a dark and stormy.
Me, I just have fancy pants Trader Joes 2011 vintage ale, and I am feeling it already. Thank god I am on the west coast
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roughing the jesus
priceless
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I could not believe it
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jan 8, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
Great game!
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With all your injuries.... I must say the better team lost.
But we’ll take it!
I hope Hines plays another year.
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by Whidbey Bronco on Jan 8, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
tebow took advantage of the opportunities.
steelers better find some heart and steel.
Impose your will.
You deserved to win
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Jan 8, 2012 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
Two great organizations...
Not many teams we need to catch up on like the Steelers! Damn.
We won the play-off rubber match though (don’t see us catching up in the SB department this year though lol)
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by Whidbey Bronco on Jan 8, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
No, most likely your run ends next week
Its one thing to face Ben, its another thing to face Brady…And you have to go to Foxboro.
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jan 8, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
And although I'm still not sold on Tebow
You guys have a bright future.
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Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jan 8, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
+1
That defence is going to get better.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
Tebow winning dooms the Broncos
Elway wants him gone. Elway views him as a failed experiment left in his lap by the previous regime.
And now the Broncos are stuck with this freak show of a not-quarterback for the near future because the fans will riot if the Broncos draft QB higher than the fifth round.
4-12. The Broncos are gonna be a disaster next season if Tebow is their starter on opening day. Because they will have to go at least 0-6 for the fans to face the truth.
Tebow is like a pitcher who only has a fastball. Eventually, the league catches up with you.
I’d never want a QB who can’t hit a sideline out to save his life.
This is true
I’m not sure they’ll be that bad, but this league has a way of cutting people down to size.
This was the worst thing that could’ve happened to them (winning), and it has happened. I dont mean to trash the Broncos organization, but around this time next year I expect the results to be a lot different. Those AFC West rivals will be in the film room all offseason figuring out that offense.
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jan 8, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
One word: Raiders
Maybe two words: Raiders and Chiefs.
If the Raiders hadn’t given up two winnable games waiting for Carson Palmer to attenuate to their offensive system, they would have won that division in a walk-off.
The Chiefs? I dunno. Hearing they kept Crennel makes me think they understood that the injury bug just swallowed them whole this year.
If the Chiefs can get healthy and keep improving . . . the AFC West is going to be a tougher division next season.
by theobserver on Jan 10, 2012 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
Going to have to work on putting a positive spin on this season
But we are going to need to upgrade. The worst part about going to the super bowl is that you get complacent with coaches and personnel, hopefully we will see some changes.
It was a mess and we still won twelve games
You gotta admit . . . if someone told you we’d lose the turnover fight practically every week, you’d assume we were gonna end the season 5-11 at best.
Agreed
we were on borrowed time all year
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 9, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions
Stop blaming the refs!
The fact of the matter is that in the first quarter we had a shot to take their hearts out and we didnt. Then we let Tebow get confidence in the second quarter. And then it became a game. It began in the first half. We should have scored touchdowns when all we got were field goals. We didnt rip their hearts out. Lesson learned. We’ll get next season.
Go Steelers!
Yeah, huck the bath water
and ignore that a baby went with it
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I think Ike Taylor played a worse game today than any game for William Gay in 2009. #boldstatement
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by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2012 9:02 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
I would agree. Hurts to say it, because Ike’s been awesome all year.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
Agreed - the way Mundy just let Taylor our "shut down" corner get turned around
like a retarded rookie over and over again was pathetic. We should crucify Mundy for letting Taylor play such a horrid game!
The Royal TD was on Gay, though that was a pretty sick catch.
I think Taylor is better than most but Thomas is huge and a freak. He’s got Megatron caliber talent, just didn’t play in a real passing offense in college.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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yeah, I wouldn’t blame Gay for that at all. he looked like he had good coverage. Just a great throw and catch
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99 out of 100 times, that's not a catch
Stoopid Tebow. Maybe there is something to this God thing.
I’m suddenly more thankful I’ve been carving a path to hell my entire life.
no there isn't
A God wouldn’t give a man a small son and daughter, have them fight thrugh the light birth weight stuff and then give daddy cancer on top of it.
Dick move, God.
Merry Who-Dey, everybody!!
He might have all the talent in the world. But he wasn’t out there making ridiculous catches. He was continually wide open. It had little to do with his talent and more to do with Ike playing downright awful.
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by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
Gay had great coverage there
a little luck and a lotta skill by Royal
Gay's coverage was on point, no much more he could have done, Royal just caught it anyway.
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 9, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
He didn't turn his head and find the ball. But he was right there.
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
But he played the ball, not the man
Unfortunately I can’t find a pic from the other angle, but he did try to knock the ball out
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 10, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Deeply disagree
How is Ike supposed to blame a lockdown game when Lebeau left him with zero help over top?
Man coverage isn’t even legal anymore in the NFL. You basically have to run ten yards ahead of the receiver, let him catch the ball, then tackle him in an area smaller than an MLB strike zone or face being called for an illegal hit.
If you do all of that and the ball somehow ends up on the ground, in all likelihood the refs will throw a flag just for spite.
This is Roger Goodell’s NFL and it is shit. Accept that fact. Ike was doomed from the word go.
by theobserver on Jan 8, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How is Ike supposed to blame a lockdown game when Lebeau left him with zero help over top?
Ike Taylor is supposed to be a shutdown corner. He is our #1 corner and he sure as hell gets paid that way. His game is absolutely unexcusable. He should be able to handle a simple man to man. And at worst, he should give up a 15 yard rec in that situation. He was abused all game last night.
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by John Stephens on Jan 9, 2012 9:06 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly, it wasn't that he was beat in one on one
It was how badly and how consistently he was beat.
Can’t have Ike allow any, let alone multiple 50+ yard plays. There is no excuse for that. Just as there was no excuse for Ike letting a WR get inside on him when he had no safety help in OT.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Jan 9, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
How do you prevent it?
Within the modern coverage rules, when a corner is in true one coverage with zero safety help, how do you prevent the receiver from doing anything he wants?
by theobserver on Jan 10, 2012 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
By not playing zero coverage.
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
There are no shutdown corners anymore
The days when you could play true shutdown corner, in the model of guys like Rod and Deion, are over. It has been fundamentally outlawed by Roger the Goodell.
And all that said, I seem to recall Darren Perry still being back there at safety for all that shutting down Rod Woodson did.
Even if you look at this era’s so-called shutdown corner, Derelle Revis, the fact is he plays a very soft zone-man look. His particular gift is that he tracks the receiver and the ball very well and has a knack for playing the ball.
Ike doesn’t have that gift. Few people do. The modern man coverage rules require a uniquely gifted athlete in order to play anything like a shutdown corner.
by theobserver on Jan 10, 2012 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
+1
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 10, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
Lockdown corners don’t need help over the top.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 9, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
It's not an issue of help
It’s having any safety there at all!
When you’re covering with two guys all day, you’re making a gigantic bet that no one is gonna slip, no one is gonna miss a tackle and that the receivers aren’t gonna make some low percentage catch such as the TD Gay gave up.
I will say this for Tebow: when he has man coverage, the ball is going out there. A lot of QBs leave me flustered with their unwillingness to attack single coverage. Whatever Tebows faults, and they are plenty, he doesn’t hesitate to unload when he has the coverage.
by theobserver on Jan 10, 2012 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
Denard Robinson likes this idea.
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
I think it was a calculated risk. It obviously didn’t work out, but it was the same defense that had beaten the Broncos the last two weeks. With a QB who is a threat to run you have to overload the box, and that running game is the first priority. After that, you are taking your chances that they can’t connect on the deep throws, but the Broncos are taking that chance too. You just have to hope the coin flips your way.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 10, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
The refs did not beat us
harrision gets held all the time, but we deserved to lose…
There were horrible calls both ways tonight
That whistle on the fumbled lateral, the no holding calls vs Miller and the missed face mask calls for us
The missed holding calls and a few others I reckon should have gone against us…
A fan only sees the ones that hurt the team as a rule
IMO
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by Whidbey Bronco on Jan 8, 2012 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
probably true
It is just that we see the same ones week after week. It gets old.
Gratz on the win.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
It was a forward pass, dumbass!
The line for a legal forward pass is at the quarterback’s back foot. Anything forward of that point is a forward, legal pass by rule.
The quarterback’s entire body has to be clearly forward from the receiver for it to be a lateral. This is why when you try something like the Music City Mircale play, you must make a demonstrable effort to clearly send the ball backwards. Directly to your side is often not good enough for a legal lateral.
For additional reference on legal forward passes, consider that a pass where the QB’s back foot is on the line of scrimmage while his entire body is over it is a legal forward pass. In theory, if a QB had a Tim Lincecum-type stride, he could probably throw a legal pass a full two yards past the line of scrimmage.
Back foot determines the line for a legal forward pass.
That is all.
"It was a forward pass"
I think you need to see the eye doctor soon. Because as a die hard Steeler fan I took one look at that replay and went for another beer – certain we were going to lose that challenge. We got a HUGE break by that whistle.
I disagree
I’m sorry, but the rule book is clear that the back foot determines the line of reference for a forward pass.If any part of the reception is ahead of that line, it was a forward pass.
by theobserver on Jan 8, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The only real blame on coaches is not running more
Redman is the real deal and he should have had 25 carries. We would have won in regulation. He was basically unstoppable. Look at the stat sheet. No one talks about it, but he had over 7 yards per carry. That’s hot! We could have won today with more running but we would not have gone all the way. I like Redman though…
BA is in love w the empty set
Ben is in love with BA because…I get to throw a lot in the empty set. MMMM How does that ankle feel?
Impose your will.
He averaged that many yards because he had about 3 long runs in the game
Not because he was gashing them all game. He wasn’t doing anything until the 2nd half really.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jan 8, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
On offense. Defensive coaches were totally unprepared and gambled that Tebow couldn't beat them. No respect, I mean the dude's in the NFL still.
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-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
Hear this!!
Amen!
Dick Lebeau’s worst day as D coach in his entire career. Awful, awful game plan. You simply cannot play nine men in the box and expect to win. I don’t care if a kid in a wheelchair is throwing the ball, you can’t pull that shit.
All Lebeau had to do was drop four and rush seven. Let the Broncos run all they want.
Unreal . . . just an awful, awful game from Lebeau.
I don't have a dog in this fight, but I would just throw out the observation (no pun intended)
That we only had 3 D linemen for the entire game, sticking with this may have been due to them needing the support.
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 10, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Not in defense of the hated BA at all
but I’d like to think that if our vaunted defense would have stopped a nose bleed today that Redman would have gotten a few more carries.
BA must go, but this game dictated we wouldn’t be running much once we were 2 scores down and after seeing Ike getting burned like tinder with Harrison deciding to free lance and gift 1st downs whenever Tebow decided to run his way.
These losses never hurt as much as I feel they will just because I feel we will always find a way to come back and be extremely competitive the following year. Sure, some changes need to be made, but we are very lucky to be fans of the best franchise in the NFL. We have a fantastic young core of guys and top notch management that will keep the Steelers among the elite of the league for years to come. Ready for the draft and a less injury-filled 2012!
by StuckinFortWayne on Jan 8, 2012 9:08 PM EST reply actions
the loss hurts till I see the trolls show up. Then I think “damn…the Steelers create a lot of envy”
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
I know man. Some of these fans don’t even understand what it feels like to lose in the playoffs! The support and love that each of us put toward our team overcomes every tough loss. The sense of unity among Steeler Nation is incredible!
by StuckinFortWayne on Jan 8, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
My see you later list.
MCfadden,
Moore
Gay
Chris K
Starks
Essex
Impose your will.
Chris K is gone next year Starks maybe back essex may be back as backup
GAy might be back.
moore is gone let’s go Baron B.
by steeler_in_maryland on Jan 8, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
Gay comes back
Unless the money gets out of hand. CBs in free agency can get badly overpriced.
Other than him, Mwelde is the only one I’d care to see return.
If Starks or Kemo are still Steelers next September, it means the 2012 draft was an utter failure for the Steelers.
On the upside, with all the good QBs this draft, a good OT just might slip down far enough for us to draft.
What did Gay or Starks do? Starks saved our season.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
no kidding we would be 4-12 without starks
by steeler_in_maryland on Jan 8, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
I think he is too old to be starter. Same as moore
I agree i liked them a lot.
Impose your will.
Starks is gone next season.
He was strictly a stop-gap player. He got beat like a drum out there today.
Did he finish the game?
I saw J Scott out there in the 2nd half.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
no he didn’t finish, got hurt
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
I thought he tripped on someone
Possibly Foster though I don’t know if that was where he got hurt.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
opps..
probably Kemo I should say.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
scott was in. Scott for crying out loud!!!!!
Impose your will.
Really?
Who do you start at LT next year? Great theory without any thought behind it.
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by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
You started a rookie on the right side.
You can look in free agency as well. Scott might progress. Max waas manhandled during the 5 losses. Big faster stronger defenses have man handled that oline all year.Need to upgrade. You start w Bens blind side and protect your greatest asset.
Impose your will.
RT is NOT the same as LT. The better pass rushers are on that side of the line. And let’s not pretend that Gilbert was without flaws this year. He had his ups and downs and got beat.
Starting a guy a rookie at LT is a huge gamble, especially when that guy would be drafted outside the top 20 picks.
Max Starks isn’t perfect, but he is more capable than any rookie we could get at 24th.
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by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
Any rook will need a great camp
It’s always possible the OT equivalent slips down. With QBs aplenty this year, I could see an OT who’d normally go #15 dropping to 24. Especially now that it’s acceptable to take safeties with the top ten picks.
That said, based on history and simple draft chess, if a rookie starting OL comes out of the Steelers’ 2012 draft, it will an offensive guard.
Max is the best option, but I feel like he got out of shape again late. I wonder why he cantt stay at the weight/conditioning he was at when we re-signed him.
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Disagree on Gay, Starks, and Essex. I’d bring back McFadd and Chris K if it were a reduced rate
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by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
Mc fadde was a bench warmer all season. WHy?
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Great on ST. Solid as a back up.
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by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
Modern rules hurt B Mac's game
B Mac was never known as a guy who could run with people. With the current interpretation of the coverage rules — it reads verbatim as “don’t even look at the receiver… just pick a random cheerleader and stare at her… all else is illegal… if the receiver fails to catch the ball, a flag will be thrown” — B Mac was doomed.
B Mac was a good fundamental corner during the last days of honest bump-and-run coverage. But, now that the refs are required to call interference on all plays where the receiver doesn’t score a touchdown . . . B Mac is obsolete.
Just chalk B Mac up as another Steeler defender laid low by Roger the Goodell.
by theobserver on Jan 8, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Absolutely not on Kemo
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jan 8, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
Eh...
He’s a fine back up. We’d have no depth if we cut him.
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by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
but…if he’s a backup, that still means there’s a chance he sees the field. I don’t like that lol
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you won’t find a better back up
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by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
We cant draft a better player?
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by StoneColdSteel on Jan 8, 2012 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
Well
We already need a starting LG. So, we’d have a rookie there. You’d want a rookie backed up by a rookie?
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by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
Foster can play LG
He isn’t that bad of a puller, and he is a way better pass blocker than Kemo. Put Gilbert at RG and Colon at RT. Bring back Essex, Legs, and Scott for another year and you have a very good o-line IMO
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by StoneColdSteel on Jan 8, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
Personally, I think Kemo is a better back up than Legs.
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by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2012 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
he is making mucho dinero...no?
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that’s why I said “reduced rate”
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by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
Gay will be back
probably Essex and Starks (if he is within budget) as well.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
Gay really?
that TD he gave up was a great play. I’d say he had an all world game compared to Taylor. How about this for a name not on your list – Ward. It hurts me to say it, but the fact you left him off indicates how little he did to make any of us notice he suited up today.
Why on earth would you get rid of Gay or Starks?
I can’t really see Moore either, cause all that dude does is produce when called upon, but I don’t think he will be able to secure a roster spot next year.
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 10, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Wrong, Redman was our player of the game
He had like 150 all purpose yards. What about all the dropped balls from WRs? Why no passes to Hines? Ben almost threw like 5 picks. We would have won running the ball. Even Ben had 3 good runs. If he was healthy, he would have really exploited the average defense.
Ward didn't get open
He was on the field though.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
My lets renegotiate your contract list.
Ward
Farrior
Hampton
Smith- these 4 if they can come back and contribute
Impose your will.
Farrior is done. Asst. LB coach please. Stay off the field.
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-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
Smith is done I would think
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
Bengals fan
hang in there guys….you still have a ridiculously solid core to build around…some young WRs who are great…and I dont even need to mention the Defense….you guys still had a great year…..hears to a great and competitive offseason…..
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by ticalcaldwell on Jan 8, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
Cheers, man. The same can be said for your team. AFC North is going to be just as stacked, if not more so, next year.
by StuckinFortWayne on Jan 8, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
cant wait for some more AJ Green against Polamalu for years to come…
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by ticalcaldwell on Jan 8, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
Troy doesn't have that many years left
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by StoneColdSteel on Jan 8, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
Still, though, Dalton and Green against the Steelers defense is going to be epic.
These two teams could produce some fantastic games. I can’t wait.
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The AFC North is easily the best division in the game if you ask me.
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except that the Browns are a pretty heavy weight at the bottom :)
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
Heck, even they went 4-6 outside of the division.
They suck, but even they’d be halfway respectable if they played in an easier division.
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Automatically eating sixes losses is rough
Let’s face it. In year when the Bengals are playing decent football, the Browns pretty can only win games outside the division.
Somewhere out there, a lone Browns fan has to be praying the league realigns and sends them to the AFC West.
they’d go 5-11 or 6-10 in the west
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
Bullshit
The AFC West is a school for retarded kids.
The Raiders damn near took that division after losing two games waiting for Carson Palmer to learn the playbook!!
it’s the Browns…
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I said they'd do great
In a school for retarded kids.
I’m not saying they could be an actual NFL team. I’m just saying they could steal a couple wins against the AFC West.
thanks
I think we are going have some great games against each other next year.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for the level headed non judgmental post TCW
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 10, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Good game, Steeler fans.
I know you’re squad was banged up, and it was still a great game. You guys have plenty to hang your hats on, and I know most of you will forget about this rather quickly.
If healthy, you guys were easily my AFC pick with Baltimore. Stay up. You’ll be back in position to contend next year. After our game (SF) a few weeks back, I had a lot of respect with the people chatting on here. Sucks you guys lost, but like I said, you’re franchise will be right in the thick of it next year. Good luck in the draft and next season.
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Good luck next week boss. Hopefully Harbaugh can design a plan around the fact that N.O’s linemen are allowed to hold.
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That's just the modern NFL
Roger Goodell has rendered the NFL a joystick league. It’s just Arena football played on a bigger field now.
To be blunt, the NFL might as well just have the two QBs face off indivudally in a target shooting contest. The defense is just there to create the appearance that pro football is still a team sport.
It’s a joke. Three QBs with 5000 yards?! That’s an embarrassment. And the whole thing was handed down by edict from Goodell.
It’s time for a new league. One where hitting is still allowed and man cover is still legal.
by theobserver on Jan 8, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
thanks
I think we will be back next year as well. Right now people are getting the pain out of their systems.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
that pain is actually the burrito i had this afternoon.
Impose your will.
Every Pittsburgh team (sorry Pirates) comes with the disclaimer:
The best team … when healthy. God damn you health! You are a fickle whore!
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
The Pirates were the best team in the NL Central
And then the injury bug hit after the All-Star break. Just sayin.
It’s probably the pollution from all the frack water in the Allegheny. It’s making our athletes brittle.
Yea, but let's be real, the Buccos didn't collapse because of injuries. That team is a year away.
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Too bad the Pirates didn't come with a money back guarantee
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by LV Steelers Fan on Jan 8, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
No team stays healthy all year. Every single pro sports team has that excuse. Most don’t use it.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 9, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not saying injuries don't happen to everyone.
I’m saying injuries to some of the best players in the sport at their positions (Malkin, Crosby, Staal, Polamalu, Roethlisberger, Letang, Mendenhall, Woodley) don’t happen to everyone at the same time. You’re telling me that if Rodgers, Jennings, Mathews and Woodson were hurt all season, that team wins anything and refuses to say injuries had anything to do with it? Get real. It’s not an excuse if it’s a fact.
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
The Patriots won a division title without Tom Brady. Ben Roethlisberger played, didn’t he? Mendenhall is good, but he isn’t that good, any running back can give you 90% of what he can do. Woodley hurts, but it wasn’t exactly the linebackers that kept the Steelers from winning.
As far as the Pens go, losing Malkin and Crosby is huge, no doubt. But the Steelers don’t have anyone comparable.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 10, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
No they didn't. They missed the playoffs.
And Mendenhall probably scores on the long runs Redman had because of his speed advantage. And the LB injuries probably forced LeBeau to stack the box because he knew he couldn’t stop the run with only 7.
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
My mistake, you’re correct, the Pats missed the playoffs. But I believe they still won 11 games. They were the first team to do that and miss the playoffs since ’85.
I think assuming Mendenhall scores is an awfully big assumption. As far as stacking the box goes, you can’t stop the run with just 7 if the QB can carry the ball too. The numbers just don’t work out. If you only play with seven the QB will run all over you, you’re outnumbered.
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by notthatnoise on Jan 10, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
My point is he was forced to overcompensate for 4 major injuries among his interior 7.
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2008 AFC Playoff teams
1. Titans
2. Steelers
3. Dolphins
4. Chargers
5. Colts
6. Ravens
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by John Stephens on Jan 10, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
Our defense sucked today
WTF??? We could have won with better defense methinks…
What an mess
6 points in the first half killed us, I know Lebeau is gonna get ripped as well as the defense as a whole but they played great all year and with record setting passing they didn’t allow a 300 yard passer or 100 yard receiver. With it so easy to pass and our talent on offense, this was a terrible offensive season and was well below expectations as are most seasons under Arians, they never are as good as their talent. 6 points in the first half when you had to go up on them first and the clock debacle at the end of regulation plus just how terrible they have been on the road all year and even at home we were underwhelming. If Arians is back, expect the same next year, stout defense, near the top of the league, and an offense that can’t score, can’t put teams away and just looks a mess grinding out every set of downs, maybe playoffs but another early exit. Too much talent for them to be so terrible of an offense.
dont blame the puppets...blame the the puppeteer.
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Players don't escape blame
a lot of dropped passes today, but the playcalling as always is terrible, that wide receiver screen we run 50 times a game has worked once all year, you have a gimpy QB that can’t move and a leaky o-line and recievers are either 50 yards down field with their backs turned or their are 2 or 3 receivers in the same spot and none of them go for the ball and their is 4 defenders in the area. 8 tight ends on the field, and we never throw to any of them, I haven’t seen a screen to the running back in about 5 years or any backs helping out the line. How you could even say with all the talent everywhere except the line that this offense even performs close to what they should is crazy. I think they scored 29 points in the last 3 games when 5 qbs passed for 5,000 yards and defenses can’t touch offensive players and we grind our wheels every drive, it’s either Ben or Arians, the offense has under performed for way to long with new players coming in and all that speed and we can’t score.
Agree\
70/30
BA/ Ben
Lets remember they are coaching Ben. If elway could tradition to a quick pocket passer so can ben. But the offense needs to protect him not dangle him out there like some piece of venison for gators to snatch up.
Impose your will.
This doesn't hurt that much.
In truth it was better to lose here today. We at least get better draft positioning and Ben won’t tweak the ankle another week, giving him longer to heal up.
Fact is, we were NOT going to beat NE. We are literally missing half of our starters, offense and defense. No team gets deep in the playoffs with half a team playing. The standard is only the standard when there is a set standard in place. We had none this year.
Here’s to next year. We’ll be here, same time, same place.
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by svenhoek on Jan 8, 2012 9:20 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Wow
you are way to unemotional
A hearty “this” to you, sir
But you keep pulling out your "refs-threw-the-game" card if that’s what you need for catharsis. You can use that card after every loss. It is a lifetime pass. Get it laminated. -Maryrose
although
I love a “afgainst all odds” success story
sigh
But you keep pulling out your "refs-threw-the-game" card if that’s what you need for catharsis. You can use that card after every loss. It is a lifetime pass. Get it laminated. -Maryrose
No, I wasn't all that optimistic going into the playoffs.
I DID expect to beat Denver, but I couldn’t foresee the injuries. We are beat the hell up, and this isn’t our year.
Just gotta lick the wounds and grow stronger.
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agreed
Ben couldn’t have lasted one more, let alone three more games
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Agree
There was no way we were going to beat NE, then turn around and beat either the Texans or the Ravens with Ben being the way he is.
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by StoneColdSteel on Jan 8, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
I'm almost glad we don't play the Ravens again.
It wouldn’t have been pretty, and I don’t think I could put up with a 3-sweep.
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Oh, we'd have never heard the end of it
All Steelers victories in the minds of Ratbirds fans would have been deemed null and void if Bert and the Baltimore RayRices beat us three times in a season.
I was actually more upset about my 11-2-1 fantasy team totally flaming out in the playoffs than this loss, all things considered
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by LV Steelers Fan on Jan 8, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
there were some great moments
weren’t there?
;)
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sure it does
who cares if we beat them in the regular season – they’re alive and we’re done.
I hate em, but we screwed the pooch today.
Comparative scores are meaningless
The Chiefs beat the Broncos AND the Packers, yet I didn’t see a lot of red shirts in the stands this playoff weekend.
I don't know about that.
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NE defense
will struggle with what Den will throw at them as well
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With Pittsburgh out, Pawts are the only team that can take Green Bay
Maybe the Saints on a really good day. But . . . the Super Bowl is starting to look like a potential bloodbath.
Brady vs Rogers . . . the ultimate ruination of pro football. Roger Goodell’s wet dream. Seven touchdowns a piece.
Jack Tatum will have to rise from the dead just to right this wrong.
yes
yes he did….god help him if he doesn’t adjust his style of play
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So much this.
Playing 12 backups in the playoffs means you aren’t getting anywhere. Rather lose now than in the SB or against Baltimore.
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
12 is that how many backups we were playing yikes
if we did not lose this game NE would have steam rolled us
by steeler_in_maryland on Jan 8, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
Kemo, Legursky, Redman, McClendon, Heyward, Ziggy, Mundy, Gay, Kapinos, Scott, am I missing anyone?
Not 12, but 9 at least.
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
Excuse me 10 haha.
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
Clay.
It’s back up to 12.
Those who can...do.
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by Craig Sager's Wardrobe on Jan 8, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
He didn't start but yeah. We were riddled.
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
it's actually laughable
The injuries just kept adding up and even up into today, never ended
I mean shit, I forgot about Gilbert/Colon.
And Starks didn’t even make the team! Suddenly he’s the starter at LT in the playoffs. Christ. This was a regroup/build depth year, it became clear after Halloween.
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
Starks got injured
I don’t think he finished the game.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
3rd teamers.
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
Yeah, we had Scott blocking Dumervil and Miller in the second half
It’s a minor miracle we even forced overtime.
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by LV Steelers Fan on Jan 8, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
Great Season!
I can’t complain about 12-4! You can’t win the super bowl every year!
Now if only the Penguins could stop losing…
grain of salt
Sup sluts?
Polo is overated.
"I mean, the dude lit us up.I would have bet my paycheck that he would not have beat us passing the ball...."
I prefer Marco Polo to regular Polo. but that’s just me
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If only all Broncos fans could keep it classy
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by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2012 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
true
most have been very decent
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
Luve Harrison. Luve knuckle dragin retards.
"I mean, the dude lit us up.I would have bet my paycheck that he would not have beat us passing the ball...."
by AZ.Orange&Blue on Jan 8, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
See you later
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by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
thank you John
You are my hero.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
Loves
when someone can’t spell knuckle dragging correctly
by BlackandGoldTSgt on Jan 8, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
So does anybody care who wins the Super Bowl now? Just not the Ravens?
by StuckinFortWayne on Jan 8, 2012 9:26 PM EST reply actions
or the pats
remember, never the pats
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I'm rooting for the Saints
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by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2012 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
nah I don't want him to match ben
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Jan 8, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I guess if I had to pick it would be the Saints. I’m pretty indifferent though.
by StuckinFortWayne on Jan 8, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
Them, Houston, Denver, or New York would be OK with me
A GB vs BAL/NE Super Bowl is my nightmare scenario.
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by LV Steelers Fan on Jan 8, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
after last night, not the Saints anymore. I’m going with the Giants (yes, probably least likely team) Don’t care.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
I have stuff to do
I will come back for the mock drafts but NFL is done for the year for me.
The officiating (both ways for those NE fans who have nothing to do but troll) sucked badly. It has been a problem all season and seems to be getting worse in the playoffs. I don’t see a point in getting PO’d about the officiating for teams I am not following. I have teenagers to drive my blood pressure up. I don’t need Goodell and the NFL officiating staff.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
It doesn't matter. Go Denver. Go Houston. Go Ohio State West, er, I mean, San Fran.
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
Anyone but the Pats
"He had no teeth, and he was slobbering all over himself. I'm thinking, 'You can have your money back, just get me out of here. Let me go be an accountant." I can't tell you how badly I wanted out of there."
- Denver rookie QB John Elway, on Jack Lambert, after Lambert and the Steelers knocked Elway out of his first game as a pro (1983).
by Han on Jan 8, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
I think it will be the Saints and the Ravens
Rooting for the Ravens, might as well keep the crown in the division and might as well drop two to the champs… Besides, they are too much like us for me to hate them. Now the Pats? I hate the Pate, they better not win again.
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 10, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
It's amazing
how much the media and lebeau could underestimate tebow.
we should have tried to kick the fg at the end of regulation. it was bad karma.
Long kick
low angle, pretty risky
But you keep pulling out your "refs-threw-the-game" card if that’s what you need for catharsis. You can use that card after every loss. It is a lifetime pass. Get it laminated. -Maryrose
i swear after the completion to sanders that they were going to have a fg shot
they got to use timeouts earlier. waiting until 20 seconds left places self inflicted stress on the offense
no you don't
HUGE chance of getting a kick of that distance blocked
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by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
The Broncos got to Ben really quickly there, but a Hail Mary that plays out normally provides you a much better chance of scoring with far less risk.
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Thats what I was thinking
but I am a genius after the fact
But you keep pulling out your "refs-threw-the-game" card if that’s what you need for catharsis. You can use that card after every loss. It is a lifetime pass. Get it laminated. -Maryrose
Agreed
Worst that happens is three seconds come off the clock.
Or, hell, run a trick play off the FG attempt.
If Ben doesn't take the sack, we can make that kick
It would have taken a commitment to getting short passes and runs to into FG range. Swisham was on fire today. I would have like to see him try the kick at least but we needed better position… Very poor clock management too…
Clock Management has been a problem
Hopefully Tomlin will do something to address that for next season.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
Nah
Susiham can’t kick more than 50 yards in regular situations, which means about 58 at Mile High. Then there are the accuracy concerns…
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by LV Steelers Fan on Jan 8, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
I have to say this whole season was really frustrating, its not too upsetting that it is over
we couldn’t catch a break and the injuries were unbearable. The team was too beat up for us to win the whole thing.
With this loss we got a higher draft pick and hopefully the motivation for us to make some changes. Arians has got to go now (I’m not blaming this game on him but we can find a much better coordinator for us).
Agree.
Even getting pumped for the playoffs, I felt like we were all whistling through the graveyard.
Tough loss, fellas. I was really—and honestly—hoping to see you guys in the AFCCG.
I know it sucks right now, but I wouldn’t feel too bad about this loss. If you guys were completely healthy and/or at home, it’s a totally different game. Outside Ike Taylor, I think the entire Steelers team played admirably.
I’ll see you guys next season and look forward to some more knock-down, drag-out fights between our teams.
if you saw us in the AFCCG you would have given us an ass whooping worse than the one you did on opening day. We are/were completely decimated and with Ben hobbled you guys would have eaten him.
I know, and that’s partly why I was hoping for the match-up—I wanted revenge for 2008 when you guys beat us thrice. I also would’ve rather played the Steelers after the Broncos and Patriots softened them up than the Patriots at home.
But you are assuming that you will beat Houston...never assume!
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by SteeladyinVA on Jan 8, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
yep
wanted another go around with you all. Good luck, but I am rooting for houston
But you keep pulling out your "refs-threw-the-game" card if that’s what you need for catharsis. You can use that card after every loss. It is a lifetime pass. Get it laminated. -Maryrose
As it should be
Keep it safe out there
But you keep pulling out your "refs-threw-the-game" card if that’s what you need for catharsis. You can use that card after every loss. It is a lifetime pass. Get it laminated. -Maryrose
I've said this here before
I hate the Steelers. As a Texans fan and old Oiler fan, I remember the vicious battles we had through the late 70’s and 80’s. But now I hate you more because I have to listen to another week of Tebow Tebow Tebow.
In all seriousness, damn fine game. I thought you were going to pull it out in the last minute there but thems the breaks I guess.
You guys have nothing to be ashamed of
I thought Tebow was done when the Pats took care of him, and then when he got shut down by the Chiefs and Bills, teams that the Pats were able to beat late in the season. And then, he does this. And that one play in OT? I. Sweat. BULLETS. Tebow’s clearly a force to be reckoned with, and my team better be ready for him.
Ben showed me that he really is the tough guy everyone says he is, from ESPN to what have you. I didn’t think he had it in him to comeback with the beatings he was taking all game. It’s clear he’s for real, and you guys are fortunate to have him has your QB.
I’m sure you guys will come back tougher than ever next season, hoping to reach the Super Bowl once more.
I just hope the Pats are the ones you’re trying to pry that Super Bowl from.
Have a great off-season, guys.
Go Pats. Celtics. Red Sox. Bruins.
Brady. Pierce. Thomas. How you doing?
yeah but with that o line
for how much longer?
Impose your will.
Broncos fans have a lot to be ashamed of
You guys are now stuck with a guy who is not qualified to be a pro quarterback.
Worse, the 2012 draft is the best QB draft since Eli, Rivers and Roethlisberger went. And the Broncos can’t draft a QB in the first round now without alienating the entire fan base.
Losing to Pittsburgh was Denver’s only hope to be a credible football team this decade.
I’ve heard of a Pyrrhic victory . . . well, the Broncos just suffered a Tebowic victory.
4-12. Mark my words, Broncos fans. You’re in for a long ass walk in the desert now.
their defence will keep them going
Maybe at some point Tebow will test positive for a performance enhancing substance and the Denver FO will feel free to get another QB.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
Fuck me . Tebow? 1play? I’m shocked and hate footbAll and life. I kinda want 2 di
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2 die 6
gives results from 2-12.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
3 die 6
gives you strength, intelligence, wisdom, dexterity, constitution and charisma.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
by shams on Jan 8, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
A nice DM/GM
Lets you roll 4d6 and throw out the low roll.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
Man, if he does that he better stock that dungeon full of everything from "Fiend Folio" to balance it out.
Thanks for making this Old_Seahawks_Fan feel not so old ;)
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
heh
I have buddies who played with the old “Chainmail” rules and I remember when the Fiend Folio came out. I was the first in our group to buy a copy.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
go into the light!
But you keep pulling out your "refs-threw-the-game" card if that’s what you need for catharsis. You can use that card after every loss. It is a lifetime pass. Get it laminated. -Maryrose
by Twell on Jan 8, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Is anybody else wondering how long Ben will be able to remain in the league with the injuries he seems to constantly endure? The man will be in a wheelchair in a couple of years if he isn’t careful.
by StuckinFortWayne on Jan 8, 2012 9:33 PM EST reply actions
That is why I think we need to draft a QB this year
It will take a few years to prep him and by then Ben will be done.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
whats the difference- the oline is sieve.
Impose your will.
I think we need draft more than just a QB
It is just one piece of what we need.
The mock drafts will be picking up. We can have fun arguing about what we need and who to draft.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
I'm more for a good guard or tackle
otherwise it’s abusive to think of putting another QB through that abuse
More time to fix coaching, roster and payroll issues. Tough loss but plenty to look forward to next season…
by Evan Skev on Jan 8, 2012 9:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Why haven’t I seen you on the Beatdown in awhile? Oh.
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by John Stephens on Jan 8, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
Im heading to the bridge... il be there around midnight if anybody would like to join me
Il wait about 10-15 mins to see how many people come with me. Remember to give your kids a hug
Next year
This is still a great team.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
i honestly dont think BA was a problem...
infact, hes starting to grow on me a bit :3
by troy43polamalu on Jan 8, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
It should be painfully obvious by now,
That the entire NFL knows the Steelers almost always throw deep on 1st downs. You know what they say is the definition of “insanity.” Doing the same thing over and over again but expecting a different result.
there are 19 bridges in Winnipeg
I don’t know how many there are where t43p lives
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
The football Gods gave us signs last week on this one.
The Bengals and Steelers games last week had similar events occur EERILY close together last week (missed FG, fumble, etc). This meant our fates THIS week would be tied together. They lose and so did we. We must step up our sacrifices to the gods in 2012 or pay the consequences!
Time to find that OL at #24. Lookin forward to what Cortez and Curtis Brown can do NEXT year.
Stay thirsty my friends.
Lots of questions for 2012/13
WILL WE KEEP BEN HEALTHY?
WILL MENDY MEND?
WILLTHE OLINE GET BETTER AND NOT GET BEN KILLED??
WILL THE BA ERA OF POOR GAME PLANNING FINALLY COME TO AN END?
WILL THE STEELERS DRAFT ANOTHER ILB THAT CAN ACTUALLY COVER?
WILL THE WORLD END AS THE MAYAN CALENDAR PREDICTS ON DEC 21 2012?
Impose your will.
Will your caps lock be unstuck?
The questions just pile up
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
by shams on Jan 8, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
hahahaha
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Jan 8, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
last one
the zombie war starts on DEC 21 2012
by steeler_in_maryland on Jan 8, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
heh
I am working on a series of pieces that feature zombie wars and before you ask, I don’t have a website and I don’t post my stuff online anymore. Not since I found one of my photos gracing someone’s karaoke website in the Phillipines (iirc).
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
Today sucks
Steelers lost and I broke up with my damn girlfriend.
For the Draft, I suggest some new Offensive Linemen
"I think every quarterback should believe they’re the best. Do I think there are better quarterbacks than me? Possibly. But would I take anyone else with the ball in their hands at the end of the game? I don’t think so." - Ben Roethlisberger-
That sucks man. I agree about the OL.
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by seton hall and steelers on Jan 8, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
Fuck, dude, that's a twofer.
Shake it off. Soon you’ll have a new LT and a new girl.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
Sorry to hear
Football loses hurt. Affairs of the heart hurt more.
Just remember not to mope at home. Get out and have a life… and maybe some bacon.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
It’ll be fine. The Steelers will always have a place in my heart. My ex can go shove a Cleveland Brown up her ass. lol
"I think every quarterback should believe they’re the best. Do I think there are better quarterbacks than me? Possibly. But would I take anyone else with the ball in their hands at the end of the game? I don’t think so." - Ben Roethlisberger-
by Mini Hulk on Jan 8, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I thought you were a girl.
Who's laughing now, O Line??? Ben Roethlisberger (from the Podium) to his O-Line and the world in Superbowl XLIII
by SteeladyinVA on Jan 8, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
so what
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
OK...
"I think every quarterback should believe they’re the best. Do I think there are better quarterbacks than me? Possibly. But would I take anyone else with the ball in their hands at the end of the game? I don’t think so." - Ben Roethlisberger-
lol
Deep in the human unconscious is a pervasive need for a logical universe that makes sense. But the real universe is always one step beyond logic.
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by peytonsurdaddy on Jan 8, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
Priceless response
leaves the door wide open, with the asker scared to pose another question. priceless.
"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 10, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Who is ready to move on? I am
I just posted a draft post in the fan posts section. Enough talking about this game. Lets all just let it go and get ready for the draft. We have the 24th pick this year
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by seton hall and steelers on Jan 8, 2012 9:45 PM EST reply actions
I haven't seen anyone ask, why didn't we go for two on the last td drive?
Who's laughing now, O Line??? Ben Roethlisberger (from the Podium) to his O-Line and the world in Superbowl XLIII
Why the hell would we do that?
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by seton hall and steelers on Jan 8, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
You play to win
that being said, I think they made the right choice
But you keep pulling out your "refs-threw-the-game" card if that’s what you need for catharsis. You can use that card after every loss. It is a lifetime pass. Get it laminated. -Maryrose
Agreed. Objectively the momentum should have favored Pitt.
Notwithstanding ye olde rule, play to win on the road.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
um to win. We would have 24 pts to their 23...so that would be a win, right?
Who's laughing now, O Line??? Ben Roethlisberger (from the Podium) to his O-Line and the world in Superbowl XLIII
And if you failed and were then losing by 1? Then what?
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by seton hall and steelers on Jan 8, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
gotta have faith in your offense, right? The way that Redman was running
he could have taken it in.
Who's laughing now, O Line??? Ben Roethlisberger (from the Podium) to his O-Line and the world in Superbowl XLIII
Or he could have gotten stuffed
You never no but you always kick the extra point in that situation
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by seton hall and steelers on Jan 8, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
2 point conversion
What if we missed it?
"I think every quarterback should believe they’re the best. Do I think there are better quarterbacks than me? Possibly. But would I take anyone else with the ball in their hands at the end of the game? I don’t think so." - Ben Roethlisberger-
What if we didn't???
Who's laughing now, O Line??? Ben Roethlisberger (from the Podium) to his O-Line and the world in Superbowl XLIII
by SteeladyinVA on Jan 8, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
Well
We’ll never know
"I think every quarterback should believe they’re the best. Do I think there are better quarterbacks than me? Possibly. But would I take anyone else with the ball in their hands at the end of the game? I don’t think so." - Ben Roethlisberger-
Only if the D held
which it did…oh, hindsightm how you mock me
But you keep pulling out your "refs-threw-the-game" card if that’s what you need for catharsis. You can use that card after every loss. It is a lifetime pass. Get it laminated. -Maryrose
holy second guesses batman
I would think they had more faith (not correct it seams) that the #1 defense might actually stop them from scoring a TD – but that’s just me.
May I suggest a new girl friend?
DOnt worry. It all works out in the end.
Impose your will.
Bengals fans here
Believe me when I say I have a healthy hatred of the Steelers…….but I was rooting hard for them today. That shows my depth of hatred for all things Teblow.
Anyway tough loss. Seems to me from watching the game is that the Steelers were caught off-guard every time Teblow threw deep….playing 9 in the box to stop the run will get ya burned against the option. Just play solid straight-up defense.
Good luck next season…hope ya finish in second again, this time to the Bengals! :)
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The Tebow thing isn't going away
And after this it might get even worse.
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Jan 8, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
If he didn’t play against the Browns and Niners I think we would have scored 45 points. I will give Tomlin a pass this season but he is on notice.
Most painless way to commit?
Draino? Seems fitting.
I hate my love for the steelers today.
by Steelchamps !! on Jan 8, 2012 9:46 PM EST via mobile reply actions
banging back a scotch just thinking bout that!:))
Impose your will.
alright guys I am outta here for the evening see yinz next year if not sooner
by steeler_in_maryland on Jan 8, 2012 9:47 PM EST reply actions
Your just going to skip all my fantastic draft coverage?
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by seton hall and steelers on Jan 8, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
I've had it. Peace out guys!
Once I have time to truly reflect on this game, I’m sure I’ll be even more pissed.
Love the Black and Gold...
Love Steeler Nation and the terrible towel- what it means to be a Steelers’ fan. Its like fatherhood, you just don’t know until you are there, in it for the first time. You never get bored or tired of it and you love it more. Days like this however and you want to just shave your head and join a monastery.
Impose your will.
Blame Dick Lebeau
Face facts: this was by a pretty far stretch Dick Lebeau’s worst game plan ever.
How hard is it to stop Tebow?! Drop four guys, let them run the ball a bit.
Nine guys in the box every play is asking too much of Ike Taylor and William Gay. Even a trained monkey, say a trained monkey named Tim Tebow, is gonna hit some deep passes when your only coverage is outside man.
And mind you, this is in a league where man-to-man coverage has been outlawed.
Honestly? This is the year when pro football finally went to shit. Between the Harrison Rule and the complete banning of honest man coverage, Roger Goodell has finally rendered this league a joystick league that’s only worth watching if you were the kind of jackoff who grew up playing Madden on the easy setting.
by theobserver on Jan 8, 2012 9:52 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I know the reasonings and all but,
I feel like we should have tried for the FG at the end
"I think every quarterback should believe they’re the best. Do I think there are better quarterbacks than me? Possibly. But would I take anyone else with the ball in their hands at the end of the game? I don’t think so." - Ben Roethlisberger-
I'm mad...I'm disappointed, I'm pissed off....
…just after the game ended, I had to leave here n drive my son back to his mom’s, so sorry I missed so many pithy comments.
Yea, I’m disappointed. But hell guys, with the injuries coming into the game, with the injuries in the game, with the game-plan so weighted against the run, with our corners playing their worst game in quite awhile, hell, we STILL tied the game and sent it into overtime. I still haven’t watched the last play, since I was in such shock after it happened, but it appears, that just like the whole game, we “zigged”, but the Bronco’s “zagged”, thus showing a lack of experience in the secondary, a lack of cohesion with all the defense because no one seemed to know what to do.
The Steelers overcame much this year, and began transforming themselves during the season. We are going to see a lot of players not return next year, so…
Let’s quickly get this bitterness out of our system, and calm ourselves down, and begin to appreciate all that they HAVE accomplished these many years.
You will NEVER hear me denounce my love for the Steelers; to do so would make you no better than what the DBN’ers accuse everyone to be, bandwagoners.
Steeler born, Steeler Bred, will wear Black n Gold until I’m dead.
Thank you Steelers, for a wild year. Only 6 months till training camp!
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
less time that that
till mock draft season.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
Ravens haven't won it yet either...
….and Houston looks like they can give you a game. Don’t count your flea-infested pigeons, just yet.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
Don't know if you'll see this, being posted so late...
…but kudos to you for your demeanor here; I was expecting crap from you, given our previous exchanges, but I was wrong.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
You boys come trollin the Beatdown and expect a warm welcome… I come to learn a thing or two and talk football… Not to troll or pour salt
by Evan Skev on Jan 9, 2012 1:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
maybe next year..
the NFL won’t schedule us playing the Brown’s the last game of the season so we won’t be beat to shit a week before the playoffs
Bandwagoner...a DBN posing as a Steeler...careful...
…HenryDawg and the others at your hellhole of a site might revoke the only membership card you consider worthy.
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To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
Later all
Nice season, I guess. Bad looking fedora. He looks like muggsy’s side kick.
Any way, hope every one is safe healthy and happy…even you skitters.
Impose your will.
Garrard wore a fedora in his press conference after the 2007 WC game against us
I don’t know why I remember that.
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by LV Steelers Fan on Jan 9, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
Hell guy...
…he played better second half, than first. How many dropped balls? How many times sacked because receivers covered well, and OL patchwork at best.
Ben brought the team back and tied the score…it was the defense that failed this game.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
Final 2 minutes in the 4th quarter, Ben takes two sacks that keep the clock running, and looses yardage that may have made a long field goal possible.
"They timed it perfectly, they just went too soon." - Darrell Waltrip commenting on an illegal restart.
Seriously
I am surprised he was still upright to take snaps. I was not completely happy with him but considering how beat up he and the rest of the team were, I am glad we got to overtime.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly
He did a lot to endear himself to me, when he came back in after the half, when he originally hurt his ankle. With that said, I still feel he would be much better if he allowed himself to play within a system.
"They timed it perfectly, they just went too soon." - Darrell Waltrip commenting on an illegal restart.
This
Ben has to learn to get rid of the ball. On several sacks checkdowns were open.
because
that matters.
The only titles that matter…..well, the ones that come with rings. Hell, Trent Dilfer.
But you keep pulling out your "refs-threw-the-game" card if that’s what you need for catharsis. You can use that card after every loss. It is a lifetime pass. Get it laminated. -Maryrose
You don't think so?
Id take Ben over ANYBODY.
"I think every quarterback should believe they’re the best. Do I think there are better quarterbacks than me? Possibly. But would I take anyone else with the ball in their hands at the end of the game? I don’t think so." - Ben Roethlisberger-
Embarassing
Sorry to be negative but I believe even fans need too keep it real.
For the number one defense in the league (by virtually any measure, and arguably on of the great defenses of the last generation) to be humiliated on national television and bounced out of the playoffs by the arm of a quarterback who has shown no indication of being able to play the position at the elite level, is simply embarrassing. This is the same quarterback who could barely complete a pass the last three weeks and was held to 3 points by the Chiefs and destroyed by the lowly Buffalo Bills. Yet the vaunted Pittsburgh Steeler defense managed to make Tim Tebow look like John Elway. One of the most humiliating losses in the history of the storied Steeler franchise.
Thanks for joining today so you could share that with us
"They timed it perfectly, they just went too soon." - Darrell Waltrip commenting on an illegal restart.
by alfresco on Jan 8, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The Broncos OL actually played pretty well
And the game winning throw was pretty good.
Poor execution by the Steelers’ secondary. They didn’t look ready.
by donniethelion on Jan 8, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
no the secondary didn't look good.
Taylor seems to need Clark back there running the show.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
Agree with half of that
The Steelers DBacks played poorly, and the Broncos WRs made some plays. Credit where credit is due.
But the amount of holding that did NOT get called against the Broncos 0-line was phenomenal. There was a PI replay that they showed where on the Broncos lineman had his elbow around Harrison’s neck that I was like “damn, I see why people complain about this shit all the time…” Could not believe how flagrant it was, but the flag thrown was on the Steelers.
Not saying they played well- they didn’t. But, the Broncos twelfth man wasn’t the earthly host, it was the guys in zebra stripes.
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by lottwasgangsta on Jan 8, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Lets not start that
The officiating was terrible on both sides, but its going to be that way with all the new rules favoring the offense.
We didnt make any plays on defense today, and Lebeau’s gameplan didnt exactly help.
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Jan 8, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
BA's either
At halftime, I think Ben had 23 pass attempts, to Redman’s 11 carries. And I have no idea how many empty sets there were tonight, just in case the Bronco’s wern’t sure we were going to attempt a pass.
"They timed it perfectly, they just went too soon." - Darrell Waltrip commenting on an illegal restart.
I agree with you that it doesn't help
But throughout the whole game, the Steelers bar that I was in kept on yelling at the replays, and a lot of the time, they had a point.
The Steelers lost this game, but the refs did them no favors. Whether or not the Broncos won, a couple key calls went their way.
I DO totally agree that the defense failed to make plays, and against Tebow, that is not excusable.
Tough loss, but high expectations are the price of consistent success…
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Jan 8, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
This^
Things have to change… Rothlis has been murdered by colbert… The D is good but the fishing is bad.. same with the O. No method to arians madness
by Evan Skev on Jan 8, 2012 10:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I has a lot of sad
I really feel we let this game go.
The drops early in the game killed us, we needed 7’s not 3’s. Cotchery and Wallace both screwed up big in the first half.
It was obvious that if you forced Tebow into throwing to beat you, he wouldn’t. But we kep Troy at the LOS a lot early on. It worked when they ran, sucked when they passed. After that, we stopped at halftime and voila only 3 more points in regulation. To me, our defense played fine but the coaching was setup horribly early on and it cost us. Lebeau didn’t adjust until halftime and we got shredded in the 2Q
The refs didn’t help us, but I don’t think the calls were the real difference maker. The only ones that really killed me were Ike’s PI which was thrown by an asshole who couldn’t even see it, and the no-call on the punt return which was fair caught and the guy hit Brown anyway.
Sad way to see this season end, I really have little faith in Tomlin at the moment. I feel he’s the best coach personality-wise but not the best when it comes to gameday.
Agree-Tomlin was out coached and made errors this year
Ben should not have been allowed to play at San Fran to start with. He can’t control Harrison.
He did not prep the team correctly considering the injuries. He still lets Arians be here who runs the most obvious single back running plays when he does run. Some of our legends needed to be gloriously retrired-like Farrior. Why is Gay still on the team? He gets burned for 7 pts every game-even if he got some picks this year.
And on the big plays that Denver beat us-this guy from yahoo has it exactly right-we have been burned by the inverted cover 2 defense since Arizona and we should dump it.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/tape-saw-denver-overtime-touchdown-triumph-play-design-023540443.html;_ylt=AnheMVmRUbB8NQs2PpetW4pDubYF#more-id
by MeanJoeInGeorgia on Jan 8, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
I think the holding on Harrison cost us big time as well
but you are right. Bad Officiating tends to balance out.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
We had too many failures...
…on both sides of the ball to be able to bitch about the reffing; it was bad against both teams.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
True enough
Can’t blame it on the refs.
"They timed it perfectly, they just went too soon." - Darrell Waltrip commenting on an illegal restart.
I didn't have issues with the officiating
I did have issues with Legurskys bad snap that cost us a sure 3 and may have been the difference in the end…..
THIS TEAM NEEDS A BIG CHANGE!
After seeing that first play of overtime watching Tebow throw it over our heads, I was speechless for 5 mins after screaming at the TV for the last 3 hours. There’s no excuses of officiating, bad calls went both ways. We lost the game ourselves, Steelers D underestimated Tebow and the injuries just deflated our explosiveness on both sides. We could’ve put up 35 pts with our talent but like I’ve said in the past, and I will say it again today. PLEASE get rid of BA!! His calls are too predictable and his redzone playcalling is atrocious! Its frustrating that age is affecting this team and we have the talent for a top 5 offense and we are wasting time with this inconsistency. This playcalling took us out of putting the Ravens away in the 2nd game of the season and has kept games against weak teams too close. It needs to change this offseason or we are wasting time and careers. Here’s what we need:
1. New OC
2. Trade off Mendenhall and keep Redman. Get another RB or draft pick
3. New CB’s (Gay needs to go)
4. New O-Line (Bens career will be shortened soon enough with that o-line)
5. Say goodbye to Hines (I love him to death, always wear his jersey every gameday but his lack of speed is slowing our offense and taking away extra options)
We need to make these changes and we need to make them soon or else we are wasting Bens career. He has another 2 SBs in him at least if we can give him better support. Our talent is up there on Offense to be a trigger-happy team that can put up high numbers like the Pats but our OC and supporting cast on O-line is killing our chances.
Interesting points
1. I agree 100%. BA is a moron, and last year was just a flash in the pan.
2. Nobody would give us jack shit for a RB with a blown ACL.
3. Gay played fine, that catch by the receiver was nearly impossible to make.
4. Just new guards.
5. Sadly I agree also.
Mechem
I have a lot of respect for you on this forum. Agree with your points 100%. Mendenhall is done, and we wont get shit for him. I wanted him gone last season, I love the guy but I like the north-south style of Redman better than Mendenhall. I think Gay makes some good plays but he gives up huge ones a lot. Gay is inconsistent, there are some plays that make me go “Wow, did Gay just do that?” and then there are others where Im like “Who the hell gave up that 30 yd pass? Oh yeah, its Gay!” I think we can do better without him.
with our RB situation it's clear Redman can carry a load
So, next yr with a decent OC we should see Redman getting 20 carries and Mendy spelling for 8 or 9 and being in on 3rd downs. he’s a good blocker and has good hands. Can move in the open field. This, assuming he’s healthy. Ig not, maybe batch can fill that same need.
You need a back like Mendy
There needs to be a back on the roster that can bust it outside or the running game becomes to one dimensional.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
LaMike James in the 2nd round?
Cheap and allows us to start Redzone and pay AB and MW with Mendy’s money.
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
Agree with Cold Old
I like a lot of things about Redman, and he played a hell of a game. But, there were a couple times where his lack of speed showed up, even though he has a ton of power, and does NOT get tackled for losses.
Mendy coming back strong, Batch, etc- the new OC next year (yeah, I said it) needs to familiarize himself with this tricky idea of short passes to the running back. I hear it works pretty well, and the Steelers DO have the personnel to do it.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Jan 8, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
Agree with these comments
I have been calling BA’s head for past season now. Redman was running very well. I am surprised we did not use him too often specially in the last drive when we had 2 time outs.
Also, BB seemed normal at the end. He was running as well. Did he just manned up and tab through the pain or was faking all long?
Our D seemed a little over confident and ill prepared for Tebow today.
I agree with your changes if nothin else we need a new OC and definitely 1 or 2 solid O linemen.
by NO1KTA on Jan 8, 2012 11:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think Redman was a bit winded
He has never run that much as a pro.
I think the adrenaline caught up with Ben and he just ignored the hurt. He will be suffering for it now.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
This hurts worse than even the Super Bowl. I didn't expect them to necessarily win a championship
but I ididn’t think it would end tonight
Really?
The Super Bowl was terrible because we were actually there and had a chance to win it at the end. This year we were running on fumes by the first round of the playoffs and had about a 0.0001% chance of winning the whole thing. Looked at in a vacuum this loss was devastating but in the big picture it doesn’t mean a whole lot.
Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever
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by LV Steelers Fan on Jan 9, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
BA...
For all the detractors, keep in mind Tomlin and Roethlisberger had to talk him out of retiring after last year. There’s a good chance he’s called his last NFL plays.
Those who can...do.
Those who can't... post on message boards using a screen name boasting the name of those who can.
by Craig Sager's Wardrobe on Jan 8, 2012 10:36 PM EST reply actions
Thanks for cheering me up!
If we’re done but we manage to lose BA in the process then my day just got much brighter. Thanks!
JUST WHAT WE DESERVE!
WE, BEING THE STEELER NATION GOT JUST WHAT WE DESERVED FOR THE MISTREATMENT OF HINES WARD. AND IF HINES DOESN’T DESERVE TO BE BACK NEXT SEASON, THEN START AT THE TOP AND SEND HIM A WHOLE LOT OF COMPANY.THE ALMIGHTY DOES NOT LIKE UGLY! MIKE TOMLIN AND THAT PRICK BA.
Another question:
Will HenryDawg get kicked out by BTSC?
Will BTSC kick out HenryDawg?
Will HenryDawg do away on his own and take asshole bross09 with him?
Who's laughing now, O Line??? Ben Roethlisberger (from the Podium) to his O-Line and the world in Superbowl XLIII
One of the mods just need to nuke this whole thread tomorrow morning.
Send it back to hell.
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by peytonsurdaddy on Jan 8, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
As good as the coaching has been from Tomlin and Lebeau, today they were the reason why they lost.
Why was Lebeau playing so aggressive when the only way for tebow to get yards is on 40 yard passes. He cant drive down a field with 8 completions, but he can score on 3 completions. That last play was one of the worst play calls i have ever seen. How do you bring both safeties in, while leaving ike taylor alone 1 on 1. Once he made that catch and got by, he was gone. Thomas had the whole field to operate as there were no safeties playing back. Ryan mundy was lost, he was going in at first and than just froze and seemed to be confused at what he was supposed to do. Am i blitzing or watching the deep ball. Right before overtime started i said the only way they lost is a bomb from Tebow.
Also, Mike tomlin made a bad move in my opinion not electing to kick the field goal at the end of regulation. The way the kickers were kicking kick offs today at least give him a shot to win it. There is nothing to lose. Also, i think we can all say it was a mistake for playing ben last week in a game that we would have won regardless of ben or not.
Is it too soon to talk about getting rid of Arians?
I understand Mike Martz is looking for a job.
Renallo: Anything you'd like to add about Jake Shields, Frank?
Shamrock: He called me a dick.
by The Pope of Chilitown on Jan 8, 2012 11:14 PM EST reply actions
From 3 super bowls, to Martz?..No thanks
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
If they bring in Martz..I’ll kill someone. NO way!. You think Ben gets hit a lot now?
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
Save that money
hire someone better than Arians, but not Martz.
Spend what you save on some versatile and more talented interior linemen.
I have defended Legursky before as being short on talent, but big on effort, and being much better as a backup to Pouncey than he is at either of the guard spots- but, today showed why this team needs to upgrade its weakest unit.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Jan 8, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
I want no part of Martz NO PART!!
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
Agree
Looking at my comments above, it seems to imply that he would be expensive because he is good.
That is not what I meant.
He IS expensive.
He is NOT good.
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by lottwasgangsta on Jan 8, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
He did engineer The Greatest Show on Turf back in the Rams’ heyday. We share many similarities in talent at skill positions as the Rams did back then. If they hire him we could be talking about Ben having a 5000 yard season.
Renallo: Anything you'd like to add about Jake Shields, Frank?
Shamrock: He called me a dick.
by The Pope of Chilitown on Jan 8, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
Nah
Kurt Warner knew how to check down, and progress through multiple reads. One of the downsides of Roethlisberger’s escapability is that he always wants to go with the big-play option, and therefore that style of offense wouldn’t work well.
I AM totally in favor of it not being Arians next year, however…
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Jan 8, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
he’s also the engineer of Kurt Warner getting knocked 5 years in the future lol
We need more protection, not less.
Plus, he had Marshall Faulk we don’t
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
Indeed
This offense will be fine with better playcalling, and better interior linemen.
It already has the personnel needed to succeed otherwise. Maybe a tall receiver who doesn’t shoot himself in the (proverbial) foot would be nice, and, also, figure out how to throw the ball to your RBs for short completions every now and then…
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Jan 8, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
I think better interior linemen are the answer personally. I don’t always hate Arians, but some times he pisses me off. I think personnel will help.
I can’t argue the throw to the RB thing. Who could really?
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
hell yes let's start talking about BA leaving
But not Martz
definitely not Martz
I rather promote from within or look for a bright new face who is ready for a step up.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
Yup
I tend to think I could call plays better than Arians. I suspect this is not true. But, I DO think there are probably a lot of people who could- the Steelers should hire one of them, and draft some quality o-linemen.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Jan 8, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
Hey lotts -
nice to see you. Hope now that our season is over, you won’t be a stranger. I’ll try to get onto Niner Nation as you guys play – Good luck (though I have to admit, I don’t want yinz getting your sixth trophy)
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
Oh come on...
What’s the fun in being “the best” if you don’t have a rival?
The Steelers hustled and won Lombardi’s 5 and 6 just to show the Niners and Cowboys that it could be done. If the 49ers win another, then the Steelers just have more incentive to come back and put themselves at the VERY top again.
Thanks for the good wishes on next week- if need be, I will sneak into Candlestick the night before, and turn on the sprinkler system- that should slow the Saints down.
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by lottwasgangsta on Jan 8, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
People have been talking about getting rid of BA
since I have been coming to this site.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
Just cause it is oft-repeated...
doesn’t mean it’s not a valid point.
Whether or not he’s a good OC, I can definitely say that the scheme he wants to implement does not match the personnel the team has. You don’t ask slippery, agile receivers to impose their will on LB’s with bubble screens except Hines, who can pull that off, and, you need better interior linemen to make it work.
I DO hope he retires after this season, and the team gets someone who can reign #7 in a bit more effectively.
"Football combines the two worst things about America: It is violence punctuated by committee meetings" -George Will
by lottwasgangsta on Jan 8, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
Broncos Fan here
Hey guys, thanks for a good week of comments and analysis of the matchup. You have one hell of a team, sorry that injuries were so prevalent on both sides of the ball. But what a game.
Just wanted to thank your classy fanbase and congratulate your team on a good year. I’m not going to lie and say I’m not excited as hell about the win, but I’m not here to gloat.
Best to your RB coach – I hope he recovers fully – and hope to see you all in next year’s playoffs for the rematch. Peace…
by Berserker13 on Jan 8, 2012 11:24 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Classy, appreciated...
…and just the example we needed to show DBN trolls over here. You guys played a great game, played hard, and outplayed us. You deserved to win, and I hope all of you at MHR party your brains out and enjoy the moment – you deserve it.
Good luck against NE – I’ll be rooting for you.
Peace out, and take a cab instead of driving!
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
thanks
Last I heard he was in an induced coma. I am assuming it is so he can heal without being in constant pain.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 8, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
I hope this keeps a few people from killing themselves lol
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by Riddlah. on Jan 8, 2012 11:33 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Show us Cleveland's picture of their Lombardi's Riddlah!
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
I see four. Do you not know how to count?
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
For fans who want to talk so much about history, you guys do a great job of ignoring that of other teams.
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by Dawg Nuts on Jan 9, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Dude. You are counting minor league championships. Are you freaking kidding? Is that really how you ease the misery just a little bit? Come on
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
To be fair, if they were minor league championships, why couldn’t you guys win a few?
"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"
by troy145 on Jan 9, 2012 1:29 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
because they weren’t in that league? are you serious? or really that stupid?
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
I’m just saying, if it was minor leagues, then how come we waxed yalls ass as soon as we started playing each other in the 50s? how bad did y’all have to be to not be able to handle a minor league team?
"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"
by troy145 on Jan 9, 2012 1:46 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
That is completely irrelevant. The argument isn’t “your team was a minor league team” It’s “championships won in leagues not called the NFL mean absolutely nothing”
And what do you mean we? you were probably still at least 30 years away from being born at that time.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
My friend is a big steelers fan but he lived with flaccos brother.your sig made me think of it.
"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"
Were you even
ALIVE in the 50’s? Or for any of those “championships?”
Notice I said four, and didn’t discount all eight, even though a VERY reasonable argument can be made for all eight. You are seriously counting AAFC trophies? You crazy, miserable people love to live in your little bubble of misery don’t you?
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
Your mascot is what, a Depression-era scamp?
The Artful Dodger of the Buckeye State?
Fifty-five pounds of fury?
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
I think it's a magic elf
But don’t say that on DBN, they’re very touchy about him.
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by LV Steelers Fan on Jan 9, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
I think it is a Brownie
And I don’t mean under aged girl guide wannabee.
I don’t have the stats but I am thinking level 2 woodland with very minor magic and no ac to speak of.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 9, 2012 12:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sounds fairly useless in the party, and we're already carrying a cleric.
Can we eat him if rations get low?
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
hmmm
depends on alignment methinks.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 9, 2012 1:15 AM EST up reply actions
He looks pretty "touchy."
Like a creepy uncle.
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
Say all you want about him… But I’ve heard that if the conditions are right, and he hears you talk about him… Well, let’s just say if you want to talk bad about Brownie, don’t be surprised if you look down and your shoes are tied. hA!
"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"
What’s your point here? You’re very close to trolling.
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by John Stephens on Jan 9, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Ours are shiny trophies...
…yours are orange letters and numbers glued to a felt flag. Got anything else?
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
No, just 8 championships, 2 more than you.
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by Dawg Nuts on Jan 9, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Couple things.
1. AAFC doesn’t count
2. It must be sad that anyone who could remember these glory days is in their late 60’s
3. MOST importantly…this wasn’t your team. The Browns you root for are an expansion team. The real browns are in Baltimore. They realized they could never win in such a shitty town so they got out and actually field a semi-successful team.
-You're welcome.
Again, for a team that likes to talk about your history, you do a hell of a job of not knowing it. According to official NFL records, the team in cleveland today is the same franchise as the one that started here.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Jan 9, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Ah let me clarify
History time. Best team in a minor league, 3 wins in the 50’s and 1 in 64, and then what?
And the “official nfl records” you’re holding on to so tightly are nothing more than a compromise resulting from legal action. So on paper the ravens would be a considered a new franchise but what’s a piece of paper really mean? The 35 year owner of the team left and took with him all the staff and players then 3 years later an entire new team, new staff, new owner creates a new “browns”. A legal agreement means more than that?
Why don’t you go enjoy other teams you hate losing. It’s about the only joy a Browns fan has outside rooting for injuries and wishing it was 1964.
-You're welcome.
LOL
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by peytonsurdaddy on Jan 9, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Deny it all you want, we have more championships than you. "LOL"ing won’t change that.
Resident Tim Couch Apologist.
I got me some Pop Warner trophies too, we counting those?
"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 10, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
How your RB coach gets better.
Denver deserved that win and they got it. Fun game. Very impressed that your D-line played so many snaps with no backups. That’s crazy at such a high impact position(s). Hats off to them for just playing so much. Not Troy’s best game. Pitt was too aggressive and it cost them dearly on several plays.
Fun game, fun win. See you guys next season.
Tim Tebow is Denver's 2012 starting QB. I'm not even kind of sorry that offends some of you (including you Elway).
Actually, the 2/3 guys that survived to play the D-line
were the rotational guys/back ups. McClendon at the nose when Casey did the ACL and Heyward the rookie when The Beard pulled his groin. With Ziggy (who replaced Aaron Smith way back at the start of the seaon), those 3 guys lasted from the early 2nd Q to the end of the game with no one else to rotate in. Very impressed is right on.
Either way, your guys not only showed up today, they played a damn good game and deserved to win. Best of luck down the road.
thank you
I’m out on that note…as stated earlier…going to the super bowl every yr gets expensive!
thanks Rid
Steelers Coaches have no clue on how to motivate this team
Why do they always play down to whatever team they are playing. #1 passing defense my ass. Taylor look horrible all night. No pass rush what else stupid play calling on both sides of the ball can’t score in the red zone. So mad right now all the coaches should be fired.
by slickey on Jan 8, 2012 11:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
As much as i dont like the steelers but i was surprised that the broncos won but
to me it was a good game. Both teams played good but I didnt think that play action pass to D.T would go for a touchdown like that.
Night BTSC...
…for tomorrow we begin planning for next season. I’ll be around, hope yinz will be too.
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To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
by PaVaSteeler on Jan 9, 2012 12:04 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I will
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 9, 2012 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
Defense was bad, but the offense to blame for the loss.
Great win by the Broncos, but it should never have happened. With the amount of talent on offense the Steelers have, eeking out 23pts against a very mediocre Denver defense is disgraceful. And what is with the two-minute drill? The two possessions before the halves were horribly executed. “Delay of Game” penalty when you are almost in field goal range? Are yo kidding me? Plus, what’s with the five-step drops when you only needed to gain a few yards to give Suisham a chance at a game winning field goal. Ben’s on a bad leg and there are no plays to get the ball out quickly? Bruce Arians has got to go. Can you imagine the Steelers with an offensive coordinator like the Saints, Packers or Patriots? That’s all the Steelers are missing. One good offensive coordinator.
The Denver defense is hardly "very mediocre"
They were a top 10 D over the second half of the season.
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by LV Steelers Fan on Jan 9, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
"very medicore" is an overstatement.
Denver had a “mediocre” defense in the second half: They got torched by New England (41pts), Buffalo (40pts), Vikings (32pts) and only handled KC (no QB), Chicago (no QB). Their two quality defensive showings were the Jets and Chargers.
NE and BUF benefited from multiple Tebow turnovers
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by LV Steelers Fan on Jan 9, 2012 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
The Viking game they didn't have Von Miller
who is a stud
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
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by WVPiratesfan on Jan 9, 2012 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
Doesn't matter how you slice it.
The fact is whether you feel the Denver defense is good or not was not the reason the Steelers lost the game. They had two golden opportunities to score points at the end of the half and regulation which were historically botched by inept play calling or lack there of. The offense incurred both a “delay of game” penalty and a “procedure” penalty (which actually occurred after the play clock was at zero) when they are in a two-minute offense and with good opportunities to put up points. That lies squarely on the offense. The Denver defense did not cause these mental lapses.
What the Steelers need now
After watching this season with amazment, I would have to say they need some real good draft picks. First, a young good backup for Big Ben…watching a QB hobble around because a game is importaint is no way to play football…does anyone remember how we got a good look at Big Ben and how he got to play? Second, another center…whats the point having one who cant make it to the payoffs every year. O line…thats a given. On the Defense, you can have the greatest Def. Coord. in the world, but if you have to keep replacing injuries and suspended players, its not going to be good. The Defense was dead last in take aways this year…that tells me that Warren Sapp might be right. Its time to start moving some fresh faces into the D-line and LB postions.
Don't need another center
We just have to stop trotting our center onto the field when he’s still injured. The Steelers have a knack for turning a 3 week injury into a nagging season long injury, because they bring the player back to play in 2.
It’s astounding how little the front office has invested in protecting the quarterback, especially when you consider how much the Steelers throw the football, and also how much money Ben Roethlisberger is being paid. Instead, aside from Pouncey (and Gilbert, whom they never really projected to be playing so soon), they’ve had pretty much the same underperforming a-holes on the line for the entirety of Ben’s career. Then they’re shocked when Roethlisberger is hurt every other week. It’s long past time that they stop ignoring the line and bring in some protection for their franchise player.
The Saints
Dropped their playoff game last year the same way. To a MUCH worse Seahawks team. Things like this, in the NFL, they just happen sometimes. This year, EVERY single one of the home teams won in the WC rd. Tough to win on the road, and the Steelers were only 5-3 away from Heinz. Tough loss, but not altogether unpredictable with the slew of injuries.
On the bright side of things…
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OPENING DAY IN 87 DAYS!!! #BattlinBuccos
by Jumpin Jack Flash on Jan 9, 2012 12:42 AM EST reply actions
Weird...
this is the 4th time in NFL play-off history where the visiting team had 4 + wins over the home team… and now the home team has won all 4. Go figure
" I think this is probably the best team ever assembled. They talk about the Vince Lombardi Era, but I think the Chuck Noll Era is even greater. " - Mel Blount
Seahawks over the Saints last year was the 3rd
" I think this is probably the best team ever assembled. They talk about the Vince Lombardi Era, but I think the Chuck Noll Era is even greater. " - Mel Blount
What’s even weirder? Tebow had 316 yards passing. Yes..3:16 yards. Something crazy is going on.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
conspiracy theory ? or the Hand of God ?
" I think this is probably the best team ever assembled. They talk about the Vince Lombardi Era, but I think the Chuck Noll Era is even greater. " - Mel Blount
Just saying, that’s freaking weird that a QB who generally can’t pass throws for exactly 316 yards against the “evil” Steelers
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
I'm a nice guy.. but I'll take our "Evil" Steelers any day of the week, and twice on Sundays
" I think this is probably the best team ever assembled. They talk about the Vince Lombardi Era, but I think the Chuck Noll Era is even greater. " - Mel Blount
If he throws for 666 next week nobody will know what to think at all.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
but goodell will love it
" I think this is probably the best team ever assembled. They talk about the Vince Lombardi Era, but I think the Chuck Noll Era is even greater. " - Mel Blount
Once Keisel & Hampton & Starks went down, I knew we were done, even if we won this game…. we were’nt going any further. Applause to the Steelers for a good season, if everyone comes back healthy we have a great shot next year. On a side note that I hate bringing up…. did Lebeau get seriously out-coached today ? I don’t blame Ike, the scheme was to pressure Tebow and play man to man, but when no pressure ever got there it left our CB’s hangin, and Tebow made better throws than I think anybody expected.
" I think this is probably the best team ever assembled. They talk about the Vince Lombardi Era, but I think the Chuck Noll Era is even greater. " - Mel Blount
On the last play
I thought Mundy messed up but others diasagreed.
Still, it was a great performance by a team that should have been in the trainers room, not on a football field.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 9, 2012 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
either mundy messed up or Ike did
whenever the safeties moved up to the line the corners were suppose to drop back 5+ yards. On that play Mundy moved up and Ike stayed put. So either Ike was suppose to drop or Mundy wasn’t suppose to encroach.
What do you guys think the prognosis is for next year?
I’m thinking if we (the Browns) have a good off season, the AFC North could be a real toss up considering how y’all seem to be trending down just a little, Ratbirds are aging, and Cinci is on the upswing (flukish year but still).
"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"
My honest assessment. Your front office makes more stupid moves, you don’t address your need for a play maker, your players will get something worse than staph from your dirty facilities, no free agent will want to sign for you, and you will be dead last in the league yet again.
You know, the usual. The Bengals will be good for the next few years. Normally, I wouldn’t be all that happy, but since it’s one more thing for you people to be miserable about, I love it.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
We’ll see :)
I don’t really mind these few years in the wilderness… For decades dominating you guys was par for the course, and it will be again soon.
And if were going to play that game, my prediction for next year: James Harrison misses tow games for being an asshat, William gay gets trucked by… Everyone. Ike Taylor’s swagger gets stiffed armed into oblivion when it matters most, Ben hurts some extremity and plays itup and acts like a bitch so he has an excuse when he loses, then wears some godawful hat that makes him look like the “glee” version of mad men, markice pouncey misses the last 8 games, and one random player on your team gets busted for some shitbird crime. You know, the usual.
Except you guys have maybe two more good playoff runs in you. Your ticker is almost up. Think about how shitty we are, and then consider that we still almost beat you. Consider our best players with few exceptions are young, and yours are old or incapable of staying on the field.
Yes, happy days are soon to return again. Al so, the penguins are a bunch of turds, Cindy is an overrated prickbag.
"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"
Just a couple problems. Gay’s problem isn’t getting trucked. It’s happened by someone that trucks everyone, but his main strength is his tackling and hard hitting.
But seriously, I don’t really know what you guys are going to do with the picks you have. Every time I guess about what your FO is going to do, I’m dead wrong. So I don’t really know.
I think you guys definitely need play makers. And to quit throwing McCoy under the bus. No one can win with what he has.
As far as the ticker being almost up. I disagree. That’s media garbage. They’ve had 7 losing seasons in 40 years, the worst being 5-11 They may not be legitimate SB favorites, but they will always be contenders.
But. As long as they don’t try to bring a gun on an airplane, I’ll be happy. Oh…and if there is some disease going around the training facility, for God’s sakes I hope they take care of it.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
No one in Cleveland disagrees… Heckert will find us a playmaker. And colt sucks, believe me, I wanted him to be good, I bought his jersey, I fought to the death for him… But he sucks. Actually, the game i gave up on him in was the first game against you guys. When Seneca came in, I was actually happy.
But really, do you believe the media isn’t completely head over heels in love with Pittsburgh? They definitely arent biased gainst you, your best players are just getting old. A lot of my friends are steelers fans and they’re reasonable enough to understand that you guys need some youth. Yeah, you might be able to go 9-7 and qualify for a wildcard or just miss the playoffs, but nobody wants that. Which is kind of my point. You guys are approaching a time where, for at least a couple seasons, y’all will be that 10-6 team that isn’t bad,isn’t great. Cinch is on the verge of being that, probably already is actually. Were about 4 players away from being that. The Ratbirds are aging rapidly but have started to address it, but still, you can’t draft a new Ed reed or ray Lewis. Te AFC north is about to be thrown into straight chaos over the next 4-5ish years IMO. Still be the best division in football, as always, but the rivalries are about to get more intense and the playoff spots more coveted and hard earned.
I don’t think I’m being really biased in that assessment even.
"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"
I don’t know. I think Colt needs a threat of a running game, and a good receiver. (and 2 seconds to throw)
Yes, I am positive they aren’t in love with them. Their love goes Tebow, Rodgers, child molesters (Sandusky, the guy Syracuse, the aau coach) and Tom Brady. Everything else gets 10-15 seconds.
The best players have people in the wings. Other than Troy and Clark, most positions are accounted for. New D players usually don’t start for at least 2 seasons. The Offensive players are all young, and this is an offense league now.
Ravens aren’t aging as much as you think either. Just Reed and Lewis really, they are full of young talent on d. Their offense has problems that I’m not sure are talent related. (OC)
And no, I don’t think you you are being biased. Very valid points. I’m sorry I lumped you in with the rest of the douchebags from your blog.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
Our offensive line will be fine next year if we draft one RT nthe first 3 rounds, which starting caliber RT should be there. Alex Mack and Joe thomas are both some of the best at their positions, pinkston will move to the right side of the line when steinbech (also a stud) gets healthy, and then well just have to address RT. Our pass protection really isn’t that bad according to objective sources like pff. Colt just isn’t very good.running game, we were destroyed by injuries. Obviously Hillis, the Hardesty, and people forget we have Brandon Jackson too but he was injured. They’ll be healthy and well be okay, though a lot of us would like to seeus draft a RB in the mid rounds.
My point is, in this draft, the browns have a chance to get a starting QB, no1 WR, cb, and RT. That fact alone is a game changer in the wildcard hunt considering how close we’ve been the last two years ( losing constantly despite fourth quarter leads).
Pitssburgh can talk all they want about the new youth waiting in the wings but until you see it on the field, it’s all speculation. They could be little jabal sheards and Phil tailors and Joe hadens, but they could be something else, too.
"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"
Well, it’s actually not just speculation. Worrilds (Harrison’s likely replacement) has been great when called upon. Same with Heyward, who wasn’t even supposed to play. Hood..don’t have much to say about him. He’s been a disappointment. Many of them have done well when called.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
Is Holmgren drafting any competition for McCoy?
If not, prognosis grim.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
A lot of places have us along griffin then looking for a WR with our second first round pick or our second round pick. I think it’s a good strategy. We have a lot of holes but those are certainly the biggest ones.
"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"
You’d want RG as your first pick? I seriously think a guy like Blackmon automatically makes your offense something to worry about. This guy seems like he has star all over him.
Then again, so does RG.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
If RG3 falls to you at four I think you have to take him.
But honestly I expect somebody to make up move above you, trading with the Rams or Vikes. Greg Little looked pretty good at times this year, didn’t he?
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
I see little as having the potential to be a great compliment to a great wide receiver. He can be the anquan boldin to a guy like blackmon’s Larry Fitzgerald. I don’t think little will ever himself be THAT guy though. He’s struggled a lot with drops but shown great improvement as the season wore on.
"It is unlikely that anyone has ever read Nietzsche or Derrida and has been inspired to open a soup kitchen"
Broncos fan here respectively
Hard fought game and my boys came out on top. It was an absolute atrocious game by the officials on both teams (Roughing the passer on Harrison)(blown whistling on backwards latteral) I understand you guys had some injuries, but let’s not forget we were missing our best player in the secondary and our #1 receiver so let’s not say you guys lost cause of injuries. If this game is played 9 more times Pittsburgh wins 8 outta 10 times. Great game guys hopefully my Broncos win more to validated this victory. See you guys next year!
by valas40 on Jan 9, 2012 1:29 AM EST via mobile reply actions
It’s all good, officials do that. Didn’t change the outcome. Your guys played great, good luck in next week.
Injuries were a huge problem, but every player is a professional. They need to do their job.
Injuries aren’t an excuse for the game.
This is the problem with the Flacco hate, people don’t really know who he is as a person. - Mr. Malor. Crazy Raven fan/possible stalker.
Injury Excuses
Please! Coolong writes this blog entry as if the Stealers didn’t come away with a victory because of it’s injury-ridden roster. The ‘06 Patriots were far worse “considering” the amount of injuries, TRADES, and RETIREMENTS they endured on and off-season. Pats had to keep signing salty vets from other teams and look what they did! They beat the Super Chargers that year on a road game, and should’ve defeated Manning’s Colts, but the “already plagued DEF” gave up in the 2nd half. I kid you not, the Patriots would have won that Super Bowl against the silly Bears. Don’t remind me of ‘07. But don’t use injuries as an excuse to losing to the Tebroncos. Broncos were the better team, period!
Did I write it that way, or did you read it wanting it to be filled with excuses so you can be one of the thousands to use clever plays on the word “steelers” and talk about the Patriots?
I wouldn’t give a squirt of piss for the 06 Patriots, and I’m not even going to try to figure out what that team has to do with anything, but plain and simple, injuries are a part of a team’s success and failure. A huge part of the story of the Steelers the last month has been the amount of injuries they sustained. It’d be poor reporting not to mention it.
Broncos were not the better team and they will never be the better team
We beat ourselves no excuses. Bad coaching and a bad Ike Taylor
Holy Crap
Epic, didn’t know editors responded to these things. Well at least my voice was heard. I have never heard anyone mention the ’06 Pats, and when I hear these things about injuries, I get a little touchy because the Pats were not recognized as an internally struggling team that defied many odds…and I have a chip on my shoulder from ’07, I admit, haha. Btw, my buddy is a hardcore Ste(e)lers fan, and we go way back to the beginning where he never stopped running his mouth about the Patriots, and how the Ste(e)lers are this and that. We have a long, but damn fun rivalry.
Your screen name says all that needs to be said about you, as does your time associated here
your opinion is about anything Steelers related is worthy of using for toilet paper.
"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 9, 2012 8:55 AM EST up reply actions
Irony of ironies
Our pass defense was touted as much improved, and statistically was for the regular season but that’s what failed us in the end. Looking forward to next year, it will be interesting to see what changes takes place internally. We are going downward. Lost SB last year, first round bounce this year. I’m happy to be a fan thru this “blip” of our rich history.
"My baby...my mechanical masterpiece. So nearly complete. So nearly perfect. If I only had a living brain."--Evil Scientist, Looney Toones, circa 1952
"Well you're better than any player I ever had. And you're the best God damn hitter I ever saw. Suit up."--Pop Fisher, THE NATURAL
by SaratogaSteelerFan on Jan 9, 2012 8:37 AM EST reply actions
Saratoga Springs, NY
Alas, I miss CA. Used to live in SoCal—
"My baby...my mechanical masterpiece. So nearly complete. So nearly perfect. If I only had a living brain."--Evil Scientist, Looney Toones, circa 1952
"Well you're better than any player I ever had. And you're the best God damn hitter I ever saw. Suit up."--Pop Fisher, THE NATURAL
by SaratogaSteelerFan on Jan 9, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
I woke up this morning still disgusted
I probably am going to break my TV when I watch Skip Bayless today. The Steelers Failed the city of Pittsburgh and all its fanbase by a really poor showing.
It turns out
that Tebow can look pretty good when throwing deep to receivers in man coverage with no safety help. He only made one really crappy throw that I can remember. I expected more.
Coach Tomlin stated that the Steelers were first and foremost going to stop the run. They succeeded at the cost of passing plays down the field. Give Tebow some credit, because the Steelers dared him to throw the ball and he took the dare. Lebeau’s mantra has always been, “don’t give up the big play” but the Steelers got away from that last night.
Aimless Ramblings of a true fan after a shocking loss
I was concerned about the offense scoring points but never seriously thought we would lose. These are thoughts pulled out of the fog in no particular order:
1) Congrats on a solid 12-4 season – there was a lot of adversity to overcome, and the D pulled it together to bolster what was often a mediocre offense.; 2) Tebow hit the big passes down the field – some were wide open, some were tightly covered, but he hit them. I am thinking he is a better passer than given credit for. Hope he can do it again against the porous Patsy defense – this loss will hurt less if the hated Pats are bounced out!; 3) We have good receivers, but it sure seemed like there were a lot of dropped passes in this game; 4) don’t remember any time recently when Ike Taylor seemed to look so lost in the secondary; 5) the pass defense in general and Ike Taylor and William Gay in particular stepped it up a notch, and it was much improved compared to last year; 6) that being said, I think most of the problem with the pass D is that we are not generating any pressure on the passer up front – look at what the Giants did to Atlanta!; 7) maybe it was merciful – with Casey and Keisel out on top of all the other injuries not sure we could be competitive against the Pats; 8) hate to harp on the officials, but on the 2nd field goal drive Brown was hit beyond 5 yards and held/tripped down the field – that should have been either PI or illegal contact and might have changed the complexion of the entire game; 9) the coaching staff needs to do some introspection about clock management in the off season – that has been a problem all to often during this season.
Sour Grapes
You’ll hear a lot of idiots use this phrase incorrectly after this loss. The true intention of the phrase applies here as we have to rationalize that had we been able to reach the grapes they most likely would have been sour. The standard is the standard, and this team saw its depth tested and stretched to its limit so let no one mock this team for doing what few teams can do in facing such overwhelming adversity. Sour Grapes. This team reached as far as it could, but we can assume the sweet taste of the next game would have turned sour. Its time for this team to reload. Congratulations Denver fans. A sweet win to savor. Go Steelers!
I'd sooner get Flacco'd out here in the middle of nowhere than lose face in front of my friends and family.
by steeltech on Jan 9, 2012 9:13 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Face Me from Swagger U
Don’t nobody stand up for Ike Taylor. Period pointblank he’s terrible. Always has been and always wii be. People want to say he’s our best cover corner but he’s not and never has been, He gets beat constantly, then he gets up and claps his hands like he was suppose to make a play. He still doesn’t know when to look for the ball and all this speed he’s suppose to have I’ve yet to see him run down anybody. Who did Fitz beat in 08 to make us go 90yds for the win. When we needed to stop GB last year who’s man got the first down. As for blaming Coach Dad, if Ike is suppose to be your best cover man you have confidence in him. Its simple people because I’ve been saying this for at least 10 or more years, we need corners that can run and cover. All these 5’9" 4.5 40 bums we need to leave alone. We’ve had two cover corners in our history, Blount and Woodson. The rest where all bums. If we have to trade to move up to draft, if we have to get the right free agent it doesn’t matter. The Steeeler way has to change or this shhh will continue to happen. Farrior, Ward, Bmac, Taylor, Gay,A. Smith, Hoke, Hampton, Clark, Scott, Kemo, and Foote all need to go to free up some money. To all you Ike supporters think about this, if he’s such a great corner why didn’t anybody snatch him up as a free agent. Simple who wants a bum. 204 0f Tebow’s 316 yds went to Ike’s man. With real cover corners that can run our defence would truly be unstoppable. Oh yeah we haven’t had a OL since Tomlin has been coaching. Get us some Badger line men in the draft. Should’ve went to Cover U instead of Swagger U.
by steelerfromtheco on Jan 9, 2012 9:38 AM EST reply actions
Oh boy!
Players biting on Tebow’s dekes. Was Timmons not supposed to shadow him? Where was Harrison all day? Where was the pressure on Tebow? Troy playing in limbo? Too commited to the run? I don’t know. It just seemed like a mess out there. I’m very disappointed, so I’m kinda blabbing, but the game plan sucked. Or the bench-strength just wasn’t there.
Some of you
I know it was an ugly loss, and it’s good to vent. But every team has flaws, every team has games where probowl level (and hof level) players underperform. Injuries, bad call, lucky bounces- you win because of them and you win in spite of them. The skill levels are too close these days, there are no real upsets. There isn’t a team in this league the Steelers could not beat, and there isn’t a team in this league I would be surprised if they ended up losing to.
Over the long run, this is a franchise that in recent history has fielded a consistently great team, a consistently competitive team. I look forward to next season, and may this game be remembered as the worst loss of 2012.
Not over yet
Still have Pro Bowl 2012 ;)
Wallace, Polamalu, and Roethlisberger are in the line-up :)
Gonna throw out a few quit thoughts, then I am out
Coach T made a few more questionable time related decisions, I don’t get, he needs to tighten that up. Why didn’t we try a field goal – play to win, don’t play not to lose.
What is the point in having backup QB’s if we aren’t going to use them? This applies more to the games before last night, but those games helped contribute to this loss. If we aren’t going to use the backups, maybe we should pick up O lineman with those roster spots to protect the one we have?
Having Pouncey out cost us at the very least a chance at 3 pts – 3 pts would have won this game.
Ike Taylor is overrated (if you need more clarity on that subject, see my other posts in this thread).
The Bronco’s best game of the year was played last night – congrats.
Mike Wallace needs to step up his game, his last half of the season was pretty average, way too many dropped balls, or balls that should have been caught and no effort was made.
To the contrary, A Brown is an F’n beast
Redman did a great job filling in, but I do wish I had at least gotten to see Spann run, he may be a steal.
Props to the O and D lines – you guys gave it your best under duress.
Cotchery will be back next year, and that dude can flat out catch and he wants to be a Steeler.
I want a new OC, even I know when we are throwing a WR screen.
The officiating has to get better and more consistent. there were badly blown or missed calls on both sides of the ball last night, pitiful officiating.
and last but not least: Ike Taylor is over rated.
"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin
Blow me
"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 9, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
Your moms last name is Tebow?
Give her a tip from me – less teeth.
"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 9, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
Whatever makes you sleep @ night
Sweet dreams of Broncos and flowers. Don’t forget the Pro Bowl.
Here is the deal douchebag
I don’t care about the loss, my life goes on just like the day before, but the fact that all you have to do today is go onto another teams blog and troll makes you a pathetic human being. If your joy comes from the perceived misery of others, you have a pretty shitty existence.
Sweet dreams of Broncos and flowers. Don’t forget the Pro Bowl.
Really? Is that supposed to hurt my feelings? It doesn’t even make sense. Try making an eloquent rebuttal to an actual thought – or is that just a bit too hard?
Enjoy your superiority while being a douche, just don’t look too hard in the mirror, you probably won’t like the reflection.
"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 9, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
You're gonna be late
Thought you had a date with mom to see the Smurfs.
Anyway just messin with ye
No hard feelings. Obviously, I’m not a regular here, so I won’t be troubling your team’s sacred shrine. Just wanted to comment about the injuries. Injuries to my team are never an excuse. I wish my team’s owners (Kraft family) would stop selling out our elite players. He’s incredibly rich and powerful though a businessman and should take notes from the Ste(e)lers who keep and pay their key players (in most cases). Your team is consistent, where we keep recruiting unknowns or washed-up vets. Kraft is not giving Brady the weapons with which to compete, albeit we have Welker and the TE’s. There is no loyalty in my management which sucks because Richard Seymour was badass…same with a whole bunch of other players that helped contribute to the rings.
Oops, "Quick Thoughts"
"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 9, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
Ike and the D
The D’s numbers were inflated this year because the Steelers played very few good teams. Both HOU and BAL scored huge TD’s late in games that Steelers could’ve won if the D held … and the D made zero plays vs. SF, which has a middling O at best. (Yes, Ben’s 4 TO’s sealed the deal there and 16/20 points is a solid D performance, but the point is that this year’s D very seldom made “game changing plays” like they have in the past.)
I was misled into thinking that Ike was continuing to improve, but that sh*t yesterday brings back lots of VERY BAD memories of Chad Scott playing exactly the same way … game after game. That guy had me on suicide watch for most of 5 seasons.
Chad Scott...
Don’t have much to add to that, but I definitely feel that Ike’s “improvement” has been more a matter of QB’s not throwing his way. He was abused by pretty much all the receivers targeted by QB’s this year except for Brady and Welker, go figure on that one. As I said to his credit, he is usually in position and I think that in and of itself brings down the targets against him, but when they do choose to throw his way, it is usually a completion or an interference call, on the rare exception (3 times on career years) we can expect a pic. The pics he got this year, were if we are being honest – 2 of them were thrown straight to him with the receiver out of the picture.
I also want to reiterate that William Gay grew leaps and bounds this year under coach Lake, he is very rarely out of position now, he is a sure tackler and he goes after the ball not the man when in coverage, I think that he is now a better corner than Taylor. I know the argument will be that he doesn’t see the #1 receivers on the opposing team, but it doesn’t matter, his technique is better than Ike’s now. so I am right back where I started the season, wishing we would have picked up Johnathon Joseph.
I do think the rest of the defense will come around, we have a lot of talent, but looks like we need to draft a little heavier than anticipated, some of the vets might not be back after these injuries, we may be a bit depleted.
I also think if everyone is healthy, we are scary good and DB and OL are still our weak points to be addressed.
"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 10, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
Thoughts after the game
Well, it was a good season. It was a tough game. Denver played well and we didn’t.
The Super Bowl is really hard to get to and to win. I guess we will have to take our lumps like everyone else for now. Happens to everyone, the Colts, the Saints, the Patriots, the Ravens. Everyone has down years.
I don’t understand the Ike bashing going on right now. Ike played a bad game but he didn’t lose the game for us.
I also don’t understand the compaints about the refs. It was a badly officiated game, but I don’t think there was favoritism. The refs missed a lot of calls for Denver as well.
Hated the broadcasters for this game. I loathe Phil Simms and Jim Nantz. They are the biggest New England homers ever. I think I am going to have to mute the game next week.
It was a collective effort. I thought everyone played badly. Except special teams. Special teams played well.
I also want to praise Jericho Cotchery here. What a fantastic catch. He was severely underutilized this season, never complained, and made a key play in the game. I hope he comes back next season.
Honestly, I thought Troy has lost a step. There were a few plays where he looked like he was out of position or chasing a receiving down.
I thought we did a pretty good job containing Miller and Dumveril. Except for that one play where Dumveril just bull rushed Starks and laid his ass on the ground. That was terrible.
I thought Ben was horrible today. I have been hearing for weeks about his stupid ankle injury and I am so tired of yet. The ankle injury doesn’t have anything to do with his arm.
We were lucky the refs didn’t call that lateral and fumble. What a terrible throw.
Ben also threw a terrible interception deep in our own territory under pressure. Has nothing to do with his ankle. These are just mental errors. Just not what you would expect from someone who has been in the league for so long.
And don’t give me this bull about how Tomlin shouldn’t have played him in the 49ers game. The 49ers game was a huge game and Ben played terrible that game. Those turnovers in that game weren’t because of his injury either. Those were mental mistakes.
I am a little upset at Legursky too. He almost caused a turn over with that high snap. That’s ridiculous. I know center isn’t his natural position, but there’s no good reason he shouldn’t be able to snap the ball. He did it in the Super Bowl. In any case, it basically killed the drive there.
People are complaining about the defense. Guys, we were down by 14 points and the defense held down the fort and we came back. It wasn’t completely the defense’s fault. I can’t really blame too much on the coaches either. The players just played bad.
Going forward, I think it’s pretty clear that we need a guard, badly. I would be shocked if Chris Kemateaou is on the team next year. I haven’t really seen any improvement from him over the years, although the Steelers were relativey penalty free yesterday.
I thnk we also need a safety. And a kicker.
Maybe a nose tackle. Either this year or next year. Something’s definitely wrong with our run defense. I don’t know enough about football to tell if it’s the defensive line or the middle linebacker position that’s causing this, but this never happened a few years ago. A few years ago, nobody ran on us.
Shayne Graham played well this game but he’s just not as a reliable as Jeff Reed was. It’s shame Jeff Reed was a total nutcase, otherwise he would still have been with us.
Look, it was a bizzare game and a bizzare year. The team had a bunch of fluke injuries. Mendenhall went down in the last game. Pouncey couldn’t play (That must be absolutely killing him right now). We had a bunch of our corners get injured, Curtis Brown, Keenan Lewis.
Brett Keisel and Casey Hamption left the game. Woodley, I have no idea what’s going on his “fatigued” hamstring, but he wasn’t on the field all the time.
Shayne Graham? Go back to sleep, all I am gonna say.
"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 9, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
You are right. It's Shaun Suisham. My bad.
That’s how bad he or I am. lol. He shouldn’t be on the team next year.
No one else has said it but it is was obvious-- Tebow was flat-out lucky to throw 4 near-perfectly placed long passes. Won't happen again twice yearly.
I agree with about two dozen posters that losing a close game yesterday was less painful than limping into Foxboro to be slaughtered by Bill and Brady. So I am not complaining that Tebow got lucky. He couldn’t re-throw those same four big-play throws that perfectly if gave him 10 chances. Coach Dad’s coverage may not have been brillant, but most days it would have got them by.
That's not true.
Tebow outplayed Ben yesterday.
He gets overhyped by the media, but he got a few 1st downs with his feet yesterday.
It only took 1 pass -
Despite a lack of ability to throw the ball accurately, the kid has tons of confidence. If he doesn’t hit that first pass to Thomas over Ike on a broken play where he just launched it as far as he could …. he might’ve finished 5 for 20 … game over. The reality for Tebow is that if he catches fire, he’s great. But he’s not good enough to be consistently good from one game to the next. High risk, high reward. So when he’s bad, he’s awful. If Ike could defend the pass, the Steelers roll …. turn your head, arm up, leave your feet if necessary …
But if you can’t stop Tim Tebow, why line up to face Brady, Brees or Rodgers? Just go home and regroup.
One other thing
I think our record is what it is.
We had a good season, but let’s face it. We lost to Baltimore twice and we lost to the 49ers.
I watched the game yesterday and was hoping for the best, but I certainly didn’t have the same level of confidence this postseason than previous years.
We have played well all year, but probably not as consistently as enough for us to have won the Super Bowl.
Dennis Dixon...
I hope he gets a shot somewhere else. Obviously, this team has to need for him. Why he didn’t play the entirety of the Cleveland game, I do not know
I don't think he wants to be here
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Jan 10, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
Bah humbug -
You can’t blame the officials because they’re just terrible in most games, regardless of team(s) …. but the Pass INT calls that never go for the Steelers and always against them have been a huge pet peeve all year and last year (who remembers the Jets game in reg season?). On the 2nd drive, the Den CB held A Brown for 5 yards by both the jersey and shoulder pad and then pushed him to the ground over the legs of Miller and another DB. Most blatantly obvious call …. would give Steelers 1st and goal at the 10.
Going up 10-0 instead of 6-0 would be huge. Compare that to the tug on the jersey Ike gave Boldin in the Ravens loss ….. just one of many bad calls and many lost plays, but those types of non-calls can be killers.
I'm not gonna blame the refs
but they did miss a ton of holds. Would have been nice. People say holds happen every play, well how come 0 were called in this game?
I’m not gonna blame the refs, but it was their fault.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
Let’s call it even, since you have your SB win over the Seahawks due entirely to embarrassingly bad officiating.
Resident Tim Couch Apologist.
We also managed to overcome terrible officiating the the Colts game to make the SB to begin with
Officiating is one of the variables that has to be overcome in any game, so your point is irrelevant. Seattle hates on it enough, get your own loss to complain about. Unless… Well… I guess you can’t differentiate anymore. But as we can see from your avatar, you live in the past. Get over it, move on, you have DBN to laugh it up on at our expense, you are wasting your Mensa comments here.
"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Jan 10, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
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