S Mark Barron, CB Chase Minnifield Appear in Steelers Mock Drafts
NFL.com has a slew of mock drafts from several staff writers, and while several predict the Steelers will take Georgia combo lineman Cordy Glenn with the 24th overall pick, Alabama S Mark Barron and Virginia CB Chase Minnifield came up in two of them.
Barron, a 6-foot-1, 225-pound safety, looks like a strong run defender, but today's safeties will really be looked upon more for pass defense. Considering the onslaught of huge but nimble tight ends, bringing in a safety-sized defensive back to play the nickel position is becoming more en vogue.
Bucky Brooks has the Steelers taking Barron - who, at least physically, looks like the kind of player who could grow into that kind of a role. However, many other mocks have him off the board by the time the Steelers are on the clock.
Minnifield, son of former Browns DB Frank Minnifield, is probably a stretch at 24, but he has Steelers size (6-foot-0, 197 pounds) and tackles well for his position.
Considering the stable of young and talented cornerbacks the Steelers have (with similar size to Minnifield), taking a cornerback with their first round pick doesn't seem likely. But there's an adage in football - you can never have enough cover guys. Depth is crucial in the secondary, and incidentally, neither of our rookie corners (Curtis Brown and Cortez Allen) were available for our playoff game against the Broncos. So while there may seem to be too many immediate needs at other positions, it wouldn't be too surprising if the Steelers again dip into a project cornerback in the middle rounds.
Elliot Harrison, Chad Reuter and Charles Davis all have Glenn going to Pittsburgh.
Glenn is the fourth-best guard on our own Steel34D's board, and Seton Hall and Steelers isn't very high on him either. SHS has the Steelers selecting Ohio State OT Mike Adams at 24.
Opinions seem to vary on Glenn. The guys at DraftCountdown.com have Glenn going at 31 (their mock was made before the playoffs were over), and the Steelers taking Wisconsin OG Kevin Zeitler.
BTSC exchanged emails with Draft Countdown writer (and reputed Steelers fan) Shane Hallam, who seemed to disagree with his site's prediction of Glenn getting past the Steelers at 24.
"If Glenn is sitting there at 24, the Steelers will more than likely consider him," Hallam wrote. "Though it may be tough for a team to devote three Top 50 picks over the past three years on offensive line, the poor depth and quality of the left guard position has hurt both the run and pass game.
"Glenn is the type of player that Kevin Colbert and the Steelers look for, so it would be a natural fit. Depending on what other players are available, the Steelers would likely scoop up Glenn without looking back and plug in at guard as a Day 1 starter."
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Damm Neal......posting much lately?? :)
Appreciate all the hard work. But then again, Steeler news really hasn’t stopped since the Wild Card game. When will it slow down?
I’ve even seen Zebre Sanders, the OT from FSU in addition to Mike Adams. Then there’s Osemele at OG along with Glenn. Add Hightower at ILB and Poe at NT and there you have the front runners on the web.
Barron is interesting pick though much for what you said. Drafting him would be a good chess move to counter the J. Gresham’s, Pitta’s, and Dixon’s of the AFC North, let alone the Gronk/Hernandez monster. The glaring other needs may outweigh this pick (if available) but who knows?
Chase…not so much, but I have seen his name around as well.
Thanks again for your posting…….steppin your game up!
The Steelers will NOT pick Zebrie Sanders
Here are the reasons why
1. He is an AWFUL fit in the Steelers blocking system. He is a soft little baby blocker that is only a fit in a ZBS
2. He is a second round prospect
If we picked him I would flip a shite
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 11, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
I was only inputing what I've seen on other sites. My personal opinion would be not to pick him either.
Mike Adams is the most intriguing for me. He’s been moving up the draft board as of late and will be looking forward to watch some film on him as well as his combine work.
I know you were. I was just pointing out reasons why those who have us taking him either
A. no nothing about the Steelers
or
B. no nothing about the Steelers
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 11, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for the name drop...
And like I said in my post Glenn is one of the prospects I see that can be elite. However that all depends on how much work he puts in and how driven he is to play. Right now I wouldn’t take him till I confirm he will give it his all.
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Barron injured?
I thought Barron is injured. I would assume that what damage his draft day stock.
I think 3 factors need to be in play before the Steelers take Barron. 1) He drops till the 2nd round or we get an additional 1st round pick. 2) We sign FA O-line and or ILB or NT to fix our line (I think we would need at least one if not 2 of those would need to be fixed). 3) FO knows that Troy and/or Ryan will not be back for 2013.
Glenn seems to be hit or miss for a lot of fans. Is he a better choice than OT Adams for the Steelers or is there a 3rd O-lineman who is likely to be available at 24 who would be a better fit?
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 11, 2012 1:33 PM EST reply actions
Yup.
Barron is injured, will miss the Combine, will be scrutinized more for his perceived-inability to employ man-coverage, and will drop to at least the 2nd round.
Thus far Cordy Glenn looks like the 2nd or 3rd best OLineman in the draft.
It is what it is
I said a while ago that I didn't think Barron was a 1st rounder
He is a very big safety with decent hips; which means he is probably very good vs the run, and only average in pass coverage. Although he doubled between FS and SS at Bama, he is still a 3rd-4th round player to me. He is good at most things and great at nothing.
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by StoneColdSteel on Feb 11, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
with decent hips
Did you get Chubs Peterson to confirm this?
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What?
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by StoneColdSteel on Feb 11, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
It’s from Happy Gilmore.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PbRZ5QMAs0
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
Sorry…Chubs Peterson (Apollo Creed) told Happy Gilmore "it’s all in the hips, yeah, it’s all in the hips "
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Gotcha
I haven’t seen that movie in years, I forgot a lot of the lines.
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by StoneColdSteel on Feb 13, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
How about....
Dontari Poe,the NT from Memphis?? With Hampton 35 and coming off his 3rd ACL, not to mention his conditioning habits; Hoke retired, and McLendon the only NT with any experience(and even he’s a converted DE), it would appear to be time for the Steelers to bring in their next long-term NT? Highly regarded and 6-5/350, Poe would certainly seem to fit the bill. He could work in tandem/rotation with McLendon while he breaks in as a rookie. Gotta have that strength up the middle of that defense.
Honestly, I don’t think that NT is as critical of a position as the O line this year. It’s certainly a worry (more the the secondary IMHO) but there’s only one first pick and we just have to plug the biggest hole with it.
Between Hampton (probably later in the season) and McLendon, they can probably put together a decentish year stopping the run. Maybe not league leading, but solid enough. By contrast, if we don’t get some strength on the O Line, we’re going to have another lackluster year on offence.
Without new linemen, we won’t be able to run on anyone, and almost every decent pass comes with a risk of Ben getting planted on his butt.
Next year, assuming no unexpected injuries or retirements, then absolutely, NT is going to be the number 1 need for us, getting the run defense back to record setting level and letting the now highly competitive secondary do their job. But it all starts with an offence that can legitimately compete on third and short and can punch into the endzone.
O-line is a big need
but there will be a lot of depth at the position, in this years draft. The same can’t be said for NT, which is just as big of a need.
The Steelers currently have more depth on the O-line, then they do at NT. To say that McClendon can hold down the position for the year, is like saying that Legursky is good enough to hold down the LG position.
The Steelers will have no issue finding an offensive lineman who is as talented, if not more talented than Marcus Gilbert, in the second round.
by Greig Clawson on Feb 12, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
soooooooo......
MCclendon goes down in the first game with a hamsrting or a knee injury, what then? Who do you put at NT? We only have one starting NT on the roster right now, the other is on IR and no one knows if a 35 year old NT at 350+ is going to recover. NT is way more critical than o line for various reasons. There is alot of depth at O line you can get in the draft, FA and we even have some depth on the roster right now. You just dont find True NT’s, and you need decent depth at this position. Again, you have one starting NT on the roster right now. We have way more O line depth on the roster than NT. Not saying O line doesnt need addressed, it does, plain and simple. But, with the situation they are in with Hoke retiring, Hampton on IR, McClendon doing a decent job, which results in one starting NT, you just cant ignore that. Its just not a good situation they are in.
I've been a Barron skeptic for awhile now
but this ices his drop from the 1st round.
It is what it is
Say it with me: 1000 pounds
in the first three rounds…
by lloyd95 on Feb 11, 2012 2:42 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
lol
I like that! Yours, or did you quote someone?
by Neal Coolong on Feb 11, 2012 2:44 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Totally agree. Or at least 700ish pounds :P
One starter caliber lineman, and one backup in the second or third that we can train and condition into starting shape.
I wouldn’t say no to 3 of them though, assuming that they are all a good use of picks. I absolutely wouldn’t be surprised if there no particularly interesting other guys for the steelers to take the big-guys.
Nt tackle prospect
I don’t remember if anyone has posted this link for Akiem Hicks or not. He is a prospect out of Saskatchewan but, IIRC, he played his high school in the US. I suspect he is a lot more polished than Vaughn Martin was but it will be a similar situation where it will take a year or two for him to develop.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 11, 2012 3:05 PM EST reply actions
I really want OL in two of the first three rounds
Ideally:
1st: OG
2nd: NT
3rd: OT
Although I dont think there is a position outside of QB that the Steelers wont have a look at if BPA suffices.
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I'm not against getting Glenn
From what I’m hearing, I don’t know if he’ll ever be a great guard but he seems like a solid fit. I like Zeitler and Konz from Wisconsin. Zeitler has been reportedly awesome at every opportunity for evaluation yet he ‘s projected as a secouns round pick. Maybe it has to do with the quality of the rest of that Badgers line , being as good as it is, but I think I’d take him or Konz before Glenn.
Wexell has been hoping that Kuechly falls to us (it’s a good bet Kuechly’s combine results won’t amaze) because he’d be an instapick, and a stud in our 3-4 scheme system. That’d work for me. I wonder about Adams from Ohio State too. He’s had character issues in the past, but at 24 he’d be a steal. Draft guru Tony Pauline said on twitter Adams impressed scouts in meetings, so if he’s got his act together I’m all for it.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Feb 11, 2012 4:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Let's remember that we're talking about the Pittsburgh Steelers...
…no way are they not taking a linebacker in the first round.
I’ve been reading that a ILB will be available. Appears the salary cap issues have been taken care of and no one has been cut. I still think Foote, Farrior, Smith, Hampton willoff the roster in March. Draft an ILB and bring Farrior back at a reduced salary. There may be some money to get a NT or Guard in free agency. Ben is 30 so they need to something in the next 3-4 years. They have to look at free agency to shore up the OL
Still more work to do with the salary cap
The Steelers need to be around $10 million below the cap, so that they have enough room to sign their draft picks, and sign Wallace to a long term deal.
by Greig Clawson on Feb 12, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
I don't understand the perceived "need" at safety
This will probably be Ryan Clarks last season, and will need to be replaced, but do the Steelers need to draft a safety? They Steelers have plenty of big CB’s on the roster, why not convert one of them to safety?
Because the actual times when C B’s are converted to safeties are the exception, not the rule?
Who do you realistically think can fill Clark’s big ass shoes?
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Keenan Lewis, Cortez Allen
to name a few.
by Greig Clawson on Feb 12, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
They are the exception, or they are people you feel are the exception, despite not actually seeing them try it? That’s a big difference there. Either of us may feel they are in theory, but it’s way different in practice.
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With the NFL becoming more pass happy, safeties need to have the same skill set as a corner, because they are being asked to play much more man coverage. If you have a corner who has enough knowledge of the defense, he should be able to make the transition. A second of third year corner is going to have better knowledge of the defense, than a rookie safety coming out of college.
by Greig Clawson on Feb 12, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Well maybe so, but I still think it’s a little silly to assume that a CB is better suited to fill Ryan Clark’s big ass shoes than drafting his replacement.
I could be wrong..
However, taking Lewis or Allen away from their position…what the hell do we do at CB? that’s half of our future at CB after Taylor gets too old, and Gay is gone.
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Why is it Clark’s last season?? I don’t think it’s his last season…He’s just made the Pro Bowl for the first time, if there’s somebody who might need to go it’ll have to be Farrior for me…
Clark could become a cap casualty next year
He’ll be entering the final year of his current deal, which is the perfect time to release a player without eating a lot of dead money.
by Greig Clawson on Feb 12, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
Mundy will get his RFA tender this year, and they’ll let Clark play into his last year. Depending on Mundy’s progress, or any young safety they look to draft (at some point, they will get one this year, they’ve put it off the last three drafts). Then they’ll sign Mundy to a smaller contract but similar length to what Clark had, and let Clark walk.
That’s just how it goes. They did something kind of like that with James Harrison when he was backing Joey Porter up. Harrison, I don’t believe, was unrestricted, but before the 06 season, Porter’s last, Harrison got like a 3 year, $2 million deal. He exploded in 2007, and won DPOY in 2008, then got a huge deal. Maybe I’m missing the details, but it was something like that. Sold Porter way high, bought Harrison way low.
by Neal Coolong on Feb 12, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
Alright I see where you guys are coming from now… I’m actually not that sold on Mundy yet…Clark has actually been very very solid, he has a way of being in the thick of things… I hope to see either Mundy improving this coming year, or we have a young safety come through in a year or two..
Yeah, no doubt, Clark’s a good safety, not someone I’d like to lose (and the first player Dick Lebeau mentioned in his Hall of Fame induction speech), but he was brought in at a time we were paying our LBs far less than what we are now. Timmons, Woodley and Harrison make up probably 20 percent of our salary cap. Unfortunately, that means down the line we gotta get cheaper.
Mundy’s value is in the fact he knows the defense and he has experience here. He won’t cost much, and odds of him going anywhere else on the free agent market are slim to none. I think he did well filling in for Clark in Denver and for Troy in KC (two forced fumbles against the Broncos, 10 tackles against the Chiefs). If we can get him at $1.5 mil per, I’d call it successful.
by Neal Coolong on Feb 12, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
The only question is where does he play?
He usually is the first safety off the bench at both spots, but we still dont know which spot he plays the best. One would assume that with his smarts he’d be a perfect fit at FS, but with his build he could also be near the LOS a lot like Troy.
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by StoneColdSteel on Feb 12, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
Like the idea of grafting Lewis for S
But don’t forget Mundy!
I still think we might get some one through free agency for our NT and at least one other o lineman as well provided the cap doesn’t kill us!
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In fairness to him, as a Brown’s fan, he has to be an expert on bad picks.
Who do you think they’ll snatch with their first pick? My guess is Case Keenum or whoever played QB for Hawaii.
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Were their picks that bad last year?
IIRC they didn’t do that badly but my memory isn’t what it should be (never was).
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