Mendenhall NOT Ready for 2012???
If this is true. Is it time for us to cut ties with Mendy since this is his last yr under contract. Which I feel bad for him. Last year of his contract & he can't even play to prove he is still a solid good RB. I hope the best for him. But maybe it's time for the Steelers to make a run at FA's. Yeahh they ususally don't do it. But if this is our re-loading year. This would be our year, to make a move at idk, Stephen Jackson, Marshawn Lynch, etc. Maybe we need to Draft a RB higher now & really put one on the boards.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7571953/pittsburgh-steelers-not-counting-rashard-mendenhall-2012
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This would be our year, to make a move at idk, Stephen Jackson, Marshawn Lynch
No thanks. Our RBs are fine, and I for one would like to see Redman with some extended playing time.
Maybe we need to Draft a RB higher now & really put one on the boards
Once again, no thanks. The last thing we need to do is waste a draft pick, whether it be on a RB, WR, CB, etc.
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This story is blown out of proportion
It’s no surprise that Mendy will start the season on the PUP list. That’s what Colbert was saying. He wasn’t saying that Mendy will be unavailable for all of 2012.
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I never understand
how two ideas can be held in paradox, logically contradictory, but the contradiction is still ignored.
You have the idea that our offensive line is bad, so bad that it needs to be re-vamped completely this off-season. There are members of this community that believe if we don’t add at least two to three linemen either through FA or the draft then this offseason will be a failure.
Yet in the same breathe some will say how we need to get ride of Mendenhall, completely ignoring the first idea and ignoring the fact that the first idea could be the reason why Mendenhall isn’t producing desired results. I never understand the Mendy hate. I understand liking a certain style but logically it baffles me how you can say this running back needs to go and our offensive line is bad.
We don’t do it for ben, often the line of scrimmage is used as an excuse for ben. But not Mendenhall, we want Mendenhall to run through the defensive line and the offensive line at the same time. Ben can at least get the ball out of his hand quicker but mendy is completely dependent on the line, also he isn’t barry sanders.
Lets fix the offensive line and then assess mendenhall. I honestly think he deserves a second contract with the Steelers.
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apparently you are oblivious to the “easy scapegoat” phenomenon that goes on here.
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yea too many lazy thinkers :P
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 13, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
Do what about Yinzers
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by WVPiratesfan on Feb 14, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
+20
Sometimes I think that Walter Payton would have a tough time running behind our Offensive Line. Mendenhall is a stud no matter how you swing it. Heck, I was a fan of Willie Parker for the work he did for 4 or 5 seasons. We could players out way too quickly I believe. If you want to talk about dead weight, cut Moore.
"sometimes I think Walter Payton would have a tough time..."
Oh stop – just stop for the love of all that’s holy. Payton would have been great behind this line because he did it already with far less help for many years.
WP put up HUGE numbers when his line wasn’t stellar and his QB’s were horrid. Everyone seems to only remember the 84 and 85 bears he played on when they were great, but there were plenty of years when the Bears offense began and ended with Payton – and without much help from the line and with ZERO help from the QB position.
Do yourself a favor and watch the “football life” program on Sweetness and see how he did after first contact. Look at how Payton finished off runs and NEVER went backwards on contact or down with one tackler. Then look at how Mendenhall does after he’s hit. They have about as much in common as a baseball bat and a daisy.
Talking about a player making 1300 yards rushing today like he’s a stud. That’s only averaging 81.25 yards per game. Payton averaged over 100 yards per game for multiple years. That was when the opposition knew coming in that he was the only hope the bears had of scoring too.
I’m a Steelers fan, but Payton was the best RB I’ve ever seen (I never saw Jim Brown). Please do not mention anything that even implies Mendy’s in the same category. Walter Payton was a stud. Mendenhall isn’t in the same category. Hell, I question if he’s even the same species. Something tells me WP is kicking it with Elvis on their home planet about now.
I love Mendenhall
but this is so correct, he is no where near Walter Payton.
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 15, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
So a highlight video of Payton showed him never going backward and finishing runs? That’s crazy. What’s even crazier is that for some reason, they always seem like they’re running really slow in those damn things.
He didn’t even compare the two at all, all he said was that a running back as great as Payton wouldn’t even do well. And how can you give an absolute statement like this :
Payton would have been great behind this line because he did it already with far less help for many years.
What? There are at least three things wrong with that statement.
I do hope that made you feel better though.
Are you like one of those guys that won’t hear any type of argument against Michael Jordan, even though there are many logical ones?
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Frank
You do realize you are talking about walter payton right?
I’m not one of those guys that can’t acknowledge that Jordan wasn’t a great three point shooter.
either way, I think Walter Payton would do fine behind this line because he had the uncanny ability to make people miss and still having the strength to run through arm tackles. Mendenhall has good speed and good strength but he couldn’t make people miss like Payton, and when was the last time you ever saw Payton get caught from behind? He wasn’t slow. How would his speed compare to the game today? I dunno. eithe way greatness is greatness regardless of 40 times. Ask Hines Ward.
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 16, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions
Sure do tanno. But trying to pretend he never did anything wrong in his entire career is silly, and most likely a product of the magical memories NFL films makes with it’s epic slow motion highlights.
We could debate forever of what we think he could or couldn’t do in any given hypothetical situation, but the reality is the person that is “right” is the person that has a person or two agreeing with them. By the way, i don’t know if I gave you the impression I was saying he wasn’t one of, if not the greatest, but what I am saying is that the guy made mistakes, bad reads etc. To try to pretend otherwise like lkwd, then use a movie made to highlight your career as “proof” is kind of strange.
and when was the last time you ever saw Payton get caught from behind?
Well, he retired in 1987, and Sunday Ticket didn’t exist, ESPN was nowhere near the presence it is now, and I didn’t live in the Chicago area, so we have to consider these things.
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I don’t understand, It seems you missed the point again. The guy wasn’t trying to make a comparison, and neither was I. Anything I did say about Payton was just to try to debunk this myth that he never made a mistake in his career.
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no one is pretending he never did anything wrong
just saying that Payton is a different class back than Mendenhall. Which is I believe the original point, there is a reason why you can’t name a single running back, definitively, better than Payton. In the history of the game. You can name a couple backs better than Mendy every year.
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 16, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Ok, and that still ignores the point that the guy didn’t compare the two. He just made an offhand remark that happened to include Walter Payton’s name. It’s almost like you were hoping to see his name so that you could argue his merits.
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um no
calm down
I don’t need to argue Walter’s merits. there isn’t an argument to be had.
How could you not be comparing Mendenhall to Payton? I think Payton would do fine with the line.
That is in juxtaposition with how mendenhall is doing with it. Mendy still manages a 1,000 yards so the line isn’t so bad that no one could run through it.
It is an inherit comparison, subtle, and indirect but still a comparison.
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 16, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not “uncalm” sir. It was just an observation, you don’t have to worry, I won’t claim to know your motivations ;).
If you wish to carry out an argument, we can, but it’s gotta be another topic, because this one is all based on a guy saying our line sucks in a way that differs from just saying “our line sucks”
How could “I” not be comparing? Msteele was the one that was supposedly comparing the two. Whether or not Payton would or not is a silly argument. Way too many variables,and nothing can be said that amounts to anything more than opinion.
Saying something like MSteele said is not a comparison, it’s to drive a point home that our line sucks, and maybe we shouldn’t be laying it all on Mendenhall.
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Well I don't lay it all on mendenhall
so there. that that! lol
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 16, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
take that
ugh i wish you could edit comments lol I’d look a lot smarter.
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 16, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
lol as do I sir, as do I. Obviously you and I are on the same side of the Mendenhall debate. He’s not without fault, but who knows what it’s like to try to run through a wall when you’re expecting a hole. Any backs first instinct should be to try to make something out of it, right?
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Yep
I think Mendy should just put his head down some more but I’m not crying about it. I’m a little more understanding/sympathetic to the athlete I guess, I understand their human and make mistakes.
I guess people don’t remember Najeh Davenport running the ball for the Steelers.
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 17, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
What 3 things?
Did Walter have a sub-par O-line in the 70’s? Yes
Did he have no help at all in the passing game during that time? Yes
Was he arguably the greatest RB of all time in spite of this? Yes
I’m not saying our o-line isn’t a big problem, but a great RB can make an impact in spite of this. Any argument that the only reason Mendenhall isn’t great is because of the o-line just tells me that he is very replaceable. I guarantee you that 100% of the RB’s in the league can dominate a game if they have big holes to run through, so if he needs that to succeed then what makes him so special? Every RB in this league has been dominant at the college level when their O-lines could dominate the opposition or they wouldn’t have been looked at by any team.
And that was hardly just a highlight reel on Payton. That would take far longer than a 1 hour program. Payton wasn’t perfect, but I’d take Payton on an off day over Mendy on his best day – and I think you’d have a hard time finding a single person (player or front office) in the NFL that would argue against that.
And for the record
I don’t think we should cut Mendenhall. Saving $600K isn’t going to help the team. I just don’t see him as someone that we must sign to another contract or risk having any drop off in our running game. He’s an ok back, but I haven’t seen anything from him that says going with Redman and the rest instead is a risky proposition.
Aside from him being a Steeler, What is the reason for fans to be upset when he’s gone? 50% of his years have ended on IR. Production when on the field is average. So he’s not the most durable back, and he’s not dominant when he’s playing. I just don’t get where the loyalty from fans comes from. I don’t hate the guy and I wish him well, but I just don’t think his future will be with the team.
66% of Stafford’s seasons have been on IR. At one point Mendenhall had 100%. That means absolutely nothing unless we are talking 4 or 5 seasons on IR. He made it all the way till the last game.
I’m sorry but “not the most durable” because of the types of injuries he sustained is as silly as people that call Stafford “injury prone” because two freak accidents happened. It’s just lazy.
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What 3 things?
1) You are speaking as though you are right about it, even though it can not be proven.
2) Saying “far less” help is, pretty vague and also not something that can easily be proven. And it’s not exactly a common argument for Payton supporters.
3) After reading this response though, I realize when you said “far less help” in response to someone talking about our line, you actually meant that he didn’t have the benefit of a good passing game.
But for these rest of this, I’m not arguing that point. All I’m saying is that the guy just said “Walter Payton couldn’t succeed behind this line”
This could just be an exaggeration to drive his point home, or he could really mean it, but who cares? There’s no way we are going to be able to plug Payton in next season to find out, so it’s not really necessary to jump down his throat.
For your last part…well duh…that’s not the point. There’s maybe one or two running backs in history that people might take over Payton.
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very true
There’s no way we are going to be able to plug Payton in next season to find out, so it’s not really necessary to jump down his throat
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For your last part…well duh…that’s not the point. There’s maybe one or two running backs in history that people might take over Payton
Jim Brown and Barry Sanders, those are the only two possible. And even that will lead to a huge debate.
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 16, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Uhh yep. Let’s remember the important thing though. MSteele wasn’t comparing Payton to Mendenhall. And freaking out on him was sort of unnecessary. But it’s over now, I hope we can move on.
The guys point is that even great backs would get their asses kicked trying to run behind our line.
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disagree here
. I guarantee you that 100% of the RB’s in the league can dominate a game if they have big holes to run through,
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 16, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
I rend to agree with that..
but after this injury, who knows?
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by nycsteelerfan on Feb 13, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
We are much more in need of a steady O-line than we are at RB
RB will be just fine, plus I think once he is healthy, he could possibly thrive under our new OC.
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by MDSTEELERSFAN on Feb 14, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
it’s not a “fact” that the first idea “could” be a reason… that in itself seems logically contradictory
Its well within reason
lol give me a break
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 16, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
couldn’t help it. i do agree with the overall idea though, give mendy a chance behind an even average offensive line before we toss him, but there are times where i watch him play and wonder if he even has eyes in his head
its all good klompus
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 16, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Good take
Mendenhall is a good back (both big & fast) & early last year his footwork was quick. Line probably had a lot to do w/him not having a lot of yards/big runs.
by Mr. mojorising on Feb 23, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Baby Batch
is waiting in the wings.. lest we forget about of top-notch training camp casualty from last year.
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Also, cutting Mendenhall wouldn’t save much cap space anyway. Most of his $2M cap hit is in dead money. His salary (potential savings) is only ~$600K. He’ll be worth that, even if he only plays the 2nd half of the season.
Regarding going after a big free agent, there is no way the Steelers can do that, even at the positions were they really need help. They are already way over the salary cap, even with less than 40 players under contract at this point. They will be cutting bigger salaries, not adding new ones.
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He hates the Steelers, dont read his crap
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Don't click ESPN.
Or SI. I haven’t since before the Denver game. I try to avoid it.
It feels great. Get your news elsewhere of from the local newspapers, which is where they mostly get it from anyway.
Good one. But I still stand behind not going to mainstream media and feeding the trolls.
Wait. You have a soft spot for trolls, so never mind. ;-)
only you and Arn. Cuz you two are at least creative with your trolling.
The Newspaper is still main stream media. They get their stories from the AP just like everyone else. If I’m wrong, please break it down for me, but it seems that all the stories/information are always the same.
As far as ESPN, they can fornicate themselves with a sharp object. They found a new Tebow recently and are blowing it up like crazy. I think they are hoping he falls off so they could be responsible for the rise and fall.
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Local beat reporters like bouchette are who I’m referring to. Read the Post Gazette first and everything of any consequence gets repeated by those two sites. Everything else is superfluous chicken excrement.
But I like the idea of the sharp object self copulation for espn.
Ok, I get it now. I don’t read the post gazette, and the local paper where I’m at is a joke.
I may need to look in to this paper you speak of.
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The Pittsburgh Tribune Review
also has their own staff writing their own stuff, and they have a website as well. The local writers are definitely the way to go.
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by Rebecca Rollett on Feb 16, 2012 8:29 AM EST up reply actions
Spin Then Fall
The morning after his ACL injury, I wrote in BTSC Mendenhall was gone. As Colbert pointed out an ACL injury to a RB is serious business. McGahee took a year to get back to speed. With the Steelers way over the cap look for Mendenhall to be PUP in 2012 unless they cut him for cap relief. Redman, Dwyer, Batch, Clay, Spann and a draft pick will compete in 2012 for carries. Mewelde Moore could be a late addition if no one picks him up as FA.
Rashard will go down in Steelers lore (to this historian) as the guy who fumbled in the 3rd quarter of a Super Bowl loss as the Steelers mounted a possible comeback. Oh yeah, and the poster child for the hit of Ray Lewis’s HOF career.
When You Run The Ball Good Things Happen
McGhee had his knee explode
Mendenhall just tore his ACL. I’ll find the picture of McGhee’s knee at the moment of impact if you want me to
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by WVPiratesfan on Feb 14, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
Eww. Can you at least keep it private? His, Shaun Livingston (B-ball player) and Tim Krumrie….three injuries that still have the same shock value even though I’ve seen them many times.
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sorta like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEgkuoD5VsU
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 15, 2012 8:26 AM EST up reply actions
Matt Henry
He came back from the injury and ran for something like 600 yards in his last year of university and was signed as a UDFA by a CFL team. I think he is currently a FA. It is very hard to for a Canadian to make it in the CFL in a skill position (too many guys from the US to compete against).
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 15, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
Kind like the Kuper injury this year
or the Tim Komrie leg break
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by WVPiratesfan on Feb 15, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Mendy
I admit, I don’t love the guy. Not sure why, he’s just not my favorite. He has talent and obviously has been productive but I just don’t see him getting another contract (even before the injury i thought he would sgn with another team rather than resign with us).
I guess part of my “issue” with Mendy, though no fault of his own, is that we spent a first round pick on him but we could have had Ray Rice in the second (Baltimore traded up to get him, not sure how high). And I do love Ray Rice as a player, great kid, great story. Mendy, not so much.
Btw…why did Ray Lewis break his shoulder blade?? Because he was hit with such force his shoulder blade shattered? No, not at all. It happened b/c Mendy saw Lewis waiting in the hole for him, and Mendy shied away from the contact, as he does more often than not, by turning his back into ray!!!! He was afraid to get hit, so he does his patented “spin” move. Some times he times it well and it looks great…other times you get your shoulder blade broken!! I’m still amazed how often I’ve seen him literally stop to avoid contact…and then, try to spin and end up with his back to the defender.
I do appreciate his skill set and, to his credit, he has appeared to run tougher but he still is not my favorite. Some players you just like more than others I guess…one of the players I do love is Issac redmann…I love that guy, I think he will be a special player.
I'm one of the few ppl
that don’t think Ray Rice would look any better in this offense than Mendy does.
Ravens offensive line run block much better and Flacco checks down way more than Ben does. All of that allows Rice to produce the way he does. If we get some better run blocking and if Ben checks down more, Mendy would put up similar numbers to Rice. But the later isn’t going to happen because our WRs are so much better than the Ravens.
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 16, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions
Agree 100%
I almost feel bad for Mendenhall with the raw deal he gets in Pburgh. Had one of the most predictable play callers, a tight end for a full back, and arguably one of the worst lines in the NFL. Mendenhall is scary good when he gets the ball out in space, but that doesn’t happen enough because Ben has too much of an ego to check down. His talent is being overshadowed by Redman, who took advantage of coming in the game during less obvious running situations. If you ask me, Redman is no where near as good as the fans make him out to be. Not to mention, I don’t want to put too much stock into a back who will be turning 29 next season.
I like Mendy and Redman
Age isn’t as much an issue for RBs as much as the number of carries. The beating they take is what ends their careers early.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 20, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
2013
Usually, it’s about the second year before the player returns at full strength after the ACL surgery. With Mendenhall on PUP at the beginning of the season, we don’t know if there will be any complications or setbacks in his recovery. I’m a big fan of Ike Redman, but I would be stunned if the Steelers don’t use a draft pick on this position, maybe in the 4th round.
Just too many questions about the RB corps for a team expected to contend for a Super Bowl. Batch has his own medical issues, Moore seemed a step slow to me last year, and Dwyer/Clay/Spann are unknowns.
Too many other needs I think
I suspect we will live with our RB situation unless someone who far too good to pass up falls to us in a later round.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 14, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
What good reason would we cut Mendenhall?
The guy has had a solid campaign. He would have been a huge contributor his rookie year if not for his shoulder injury, but he bounced back with 2 back-to-back 1000+ yard seasons; his first was coupled with Big Ben’s 4000+ yard passing attack. He was like 80 yds shy of 1000 this year, and the most interesting statistic with that: HE HAD ALMOST 100 LESS CARRIES THAN THE YEAR BEFORE (324 to 228). C’mon man. The guy is a good player and we could more than use him in the near future. Everyone has been all over Issac Redman for 3 years now and I still have yet to see anything that would make me comfortable with him in a starting situation. He has been a reliable backup, but why throw away a sure thing? Get a grip.
You mean
600K in cap space right? Even still Mendenhall is worth 2 million dollars.
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 17, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
Mendy
Don’t get me wrong. I love Mendenhall & he has proven to be a good starting RB in this league. I loved him coming out out Illinois when he lit up USC in that Rose Bowl game. I was too hype when the Steelers drafted him. But those aren’t exactly my words. Those are what I’ve heard other ppl saying around town. And I agree he did almost run for 1000+ yards this yr. Behind that o-line. That’s just what i’ve heard other analyst say, talk about. I agree wee need to stick to our Draft board with whatever it is. O-line, NT, ILB, DB, S, OG, etc. But I have a question do you think we will have him after next year? When it’s not just him that’s a FA, also will be Brown, Sanders.
This would be our year, to make a move at idk, Stephen Jackson, Marshawn Lynch
You had me at LOL!
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He wasn't ready for 2011
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I don't think anyone was
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by WVPiratesfan on Feb 16, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
I can't argue with that statement
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by PixburghArn on Feb 16, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think they were ready for Tebow
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 16, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
He works in mysterious was
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by WVPiratesfan on Feb 16, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
Burning question...
So Rashard Mendenhall has ACL surgery mid January and there is a strong belief that he will miss the entire season. Adrian Peterson also has ACL surgery about 15 days before, yet the belief is that he will be back by week 1… I know that this is all just speculation and everyone recovers differently, but what is the logic behind this (if there is any)?
attitude? work ethic?
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