Random Roster Thoughts

by ThePittsburghLegend412 on Feb 14, 2012 7:17 PM EST

Hines Ward - he is obviously willing to take pretty much any kind of pay cut we offer him. This is a move that is a no brainer to me. There is no telling if Cotchery will come back or not. There is no telling if our 3 starting WR's will get hurt. We need leadership with Wallace/Brown/Sanders. I like all three of them, but they are still very young and immature. Hines can keep them in line and continue to teach them the tricks of the trade. There is no denying he lost a step last year, but for a very cheap salary, the positives of keeping him heavy outweigh the negatives.

Rashard Mendenhall - the negative aspect that revolves around this guy in this city amazes me. I'm sorry, but he doesn't get the respect he deserves as a player. This is a feature back that just two seasons ago put up 13 TD's and 1300 yards. Sure he didnt have his best season last year, but he was coming on in the last part of the seaon before he got injuried. I just dont understand the fans that want to write him off. Without Rashard, this RB group is very average at best.

Casey Hampton - his contract needs to be reworked, but the Steelers still need Casey Hampton. The Steelers really dropped the ball in not finding a stud replacement sooner. I'm sorry, but I just dont see the talent in Steve McClendon to even put him near the same level as Casey. To me McClendon is just like Hoke, a nice backup to have. The NT position is just too important in the Dick's defense to have an average player play there. I understand that money is an issue right now, but Casey needs to stay.

Cutting the following players frees up about $12.5 million dollars....Kemo, Foote, J. Scott, W. Allen, and Aaron Smith's retirement.

Steelers Draft 1st Round Pick Options (Which one would you draft?)
OG - Glenn
OT - Adams
NT - Poe
ILB - Hightower

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Tackle or Guard

It pains me to say that I believe we need to forget NT first round this year and go for a quality OL. I don’t know how many seasons we can truly neglect the OL. Pouncey was the best decision they could have made but one man doesn’t do the job. Gilbert was good this year, but I only hope he develops further.

by MSsteele on Feb 14, 2012 11:52 PM EST reply actions

+1

I believe the Steelers biggest needs are nose tackle and offensive guard

I totally agree with you. Here are the four players I believe will be Steelers first and second round draft picks. The Steelers love Dontari Poe(+), nose tackle Memphis. If he is available at 24, he will be the Steelers next nose tackle for the next 10 years. Then in the second round if he is available select offensive guard Brandon Washington from Miami Fla. If Dontari Poe is not available at 24, select offensive guard Cordy Glenn from Georgia Then in the second round if he is available select nose tackle Sylvester Williams from North Carolina.

by GeorgeQUAD on Feb 15, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions

How do you know who the staff is in love with?

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by StoneColdSteel on Feb 16, 2012 2:09 AM EST up reply actions

Dontari Poe

My brother is a regional college scout for the Steelers. It is hardly a secret. I have looked at 50 mock drafts and 50% had Steelers taking Dontari PoeIt. Just like 2010 draft where everyone had the Steelers taking Pouncey. Dontari Poe’s stock is rising. If he has a great combine, he will be a top 15 pick. I hope the 2nd best offensive guard Cordy Glenn is available at pick 24. Also, hope Sylvester Williams from North Carolina is the 2nd round.

by GeorgeQUAD on Feb 16, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions

Or in 2011

when everybody had us drafting…….Brandon Harris… Oh I know 2010 when the thought we were picking…..Kyle Wilson instead of Pouncey. When everybody thinks we are going to draft a particular player we rarely do.
The problem with Poe is lack of film for us amateurs. We don’t have access to the film that teams and networks use. Most prospects have at least one video out. Poe may not have any. Natural there is going to be some hesitance to consider him.

I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.

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by Steel in FL on Feb 18, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions

There's a few videos on youtube of Poe

I’ve watched a few of his, and also Alameda Ta’Amu’s. I’m thinking I like Ta’Amu’s motor and ball/field awareness better than Poe’s.

Poe is a weight room warrior, but Ta’Amu has Ngata-like skills and vision, IMHO.

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by Steel Spike on Feb 19, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions

Other than size, neither one of them having anything in common with Ngata

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by StoneColdSteel on Feb 19, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions

Okay

I did say “IMHO”, so…

by Steel Spike on Feb 19, 2012 6:55 PM EST up reply actions

While I absolutely agree that the OL needs to be addressed. I belive the FO has shown last year with how they handled the secondary that it does not necessarily have to be by investing high draft picks. If they can find the same value in the mid rounds I’d say bpa is still the way to go.

by axiomatic on Feb 16, 2012 10:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions

Draft Hightower and NT from Washington in 2 nd round

Guard in 3rd and go get a starting guard as a FA.

by Majabe on Feb 14, 2012 11:55 PM EST reply actions

+1

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Feb 16, 2012 7:10 AM EST up reply actions

sounds good……FA guard = Kubrik (Buffalo)

by Sch Lotan on Feb 16, 2012 7:57 AM EST up reply actions

Re Hines: I’m not sure of the actual numbers, but I would venture to guess that his stats this season are pretty comparable with the #4 receivers on most NFL teams (except maybe the Packers or something). If we can bring him back for the vet minimum, I’d say it’s a no brainer to bring him back

Re Mendenhall: he doesn’t get the respect he deserves because more often then not, the fans see him dancing around trying to figure out which hole to hit. Redman finds his hole (it may not be the right one all the time) and hits it HARD. “without Rashard, this RB group is very average at best”- I just disagree with this statement entirely.

Re Hampton: If he is willing to take a massive pay cut? Do it and bring him back. If not? Cut him. I love snack, but the bottom line is he’s 35 and coming off his third ACL injury. If we get a guy like Poe in the draft and have McClendon spell him throughout the season, I think we’re actually okay there. McClendon is not an elite talent and most certainly is not the answer long term, but I love the energy and the hustle he brings and plays every down like it’s his last.

Re The Draft: Take Poe. He fits an immediate need, and though we definitely need help on the O-Line, there is always some shuffling that can be done to fill in the gaps. Right now, there is nobody we have who can replace Big Snack, but Poe is the closest thing to him

by NoVAPensFan on Feb 15, 2012 1:17 AM EST reply actions

Little Back and Forth

Hines/Hampton/Draft – Fair enough, good deal

Mendenhall – why do you disagree? Other than Redman on limited carries….Dwyer, Clay, and Batch have a combined 1 impressive play…in their entire NFL careers. How are those 4 RB’s anything but average?

by ThePittsburghLegend412 on Feb 15, 2012 8:24 AM EST up reply actions

Redman posted very good numbers against a usually stout Denver defense. This guy was an elite talent coming out of high school and if it weren’t for a rape accusation, he would have landed a big time scholarship and coulda been a 1st round pick. Why does this matter? Well, we all seem to think that Mendy is a “feature” back because he’s a first round pick, but I believe Redman has first round “talent” along with the hunger that comes with being an UDFA. The way Redman has made the most of his limited carries has REALLY impressed me and I believe that he could be the primary running option if given the opportunity. As for Dwyer and Clay? One of them will probably go as they both serve the same purpose, but Clay’s first run from scrimmage went for a touchdown, and I think he’s definitely serviceable in a backup role. If Dwyer could get his weight under control, I think he’s got the talent as well. Batch is the truly unknown quantity, but if you accept the reports from some of the steelers reporters, he looked the most impressive of any of the RBs (save mendy) during training camp. Anyway, at the end of the day, I think from amongst that group, we have a pretty good stable of RBs, especially when you figure with our set of receivers, we’re going to be primarily a gasp passing team

by NoVAPensFan on Feb 15, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions

not to be a jerk…and not that the rape charge didn’t hurt him a lot….but he was committed to Temple on a scholarship prior to the charge….Temple is not exactly a powerhouse in terms of creating NFL talent.

by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Feb 15, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions

understandable, however, the coach at the time was Al Golden (the current Miami Hurricanes coach) who is known as an ace recruiter. I remember back when North Carolina was considered a football joke until they hired Butch Davis and started recruiting some big time talent (and big time problems). This is similar with Temple. Redman was a local kid who wanted to stay close to home and bought into what Golden was selling when he made his initial commitment. AAAAAAAAAAAAnyway, the bottom line is you can’t always say someone is not an elite level talent just based on the school he committed to. If you scroll to the middle of the article, it explains how highly regarded he was coming out of high school:

http://highschoolsports.nj.com/news/article/-8175705421632865606/scirrotto-pressley-and-redman-headed-to-nfl-with-free-agent-deals/

by NoVAPensFan on Feb 15, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions

That was the same article I was looking at…I know that elite talent doesn’t always wind up at elite schools in college, but who else was looking at him in that area of the country? Maryland, UVA, Virginia Tech, Penn State?

Not really that big of a deal…I gottcha…Redman was more than a piece of crap coming out of Bowie state..he had talent, just the cookie crumbled the wrong way…

He has better vision that Mendy, but he doesn’t have the speed….he is more than a serviceable back, I think he could start a full season and get 1200 to 1600 yards if the running game was emphasized, but he is not a home-run hitter.

by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Feb 15, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions

that’s true he’s not a home run threat and doesn’t have that top end speed, but for what I see our offense going to, I don’t really see the need to have a home run threat since our home runs all play WR. He runs the ball effectively and does what we need him to do. The Pats, the Packers, the Saints; all of them have great offenses but no one “featured” RB. In that regard, I think Redman is a perfect fit

by NoVAPensFan on Feb 15, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions

Consistently getting 3,4,5

yards to me is much much better than 1 ,2,1,1,35 from a runner.

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--Aristotle

by steelerstyle on Feb 18, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs

This gets a rectum

by Steel Spike on Feb 19, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions

To project from “he was an elite talent coming out of high school” to “he could have been a first round pick” is quite a leap

by worldtrip on Feb 17, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions

Not really

go on to scout.com and look at the top players coming out of school every year, the names are very familiar. Its not an exact science but its a good indicator.

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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 19, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions

How many players coming out of high school are considered “elte”? Considering the big school going after Redman was Temple, and NVAPF considers him to be “elite”, then by definition that would probably make a a few hundred high school players “elite”. Considering there are only 32 first round draft picks, I stand by my comment that elite out of high school to first round draft choice in the NFL is a pretty massive leap

by worldtrip on Feb 19, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions

I bet about 90% of the players currently playing in the NFL were considered “elite” coming out of high school

by worldtrip on Feb 19, 2012 5:47 PM EST up reply actions

I guess when I say elite

I mean top 10 best players out of any given yr.

bet about 90% of the players currently playing in the NFL were considered "elite" coming out of high school

i don’t know. it depends on how you define elite.

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Feb 19, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions

Issac Redman was most definitely not considered one of the 10 best players coming out of high school his senior year. Not by a long shot.

Which supports my comment that he is making a huge leap that Redman could have been a number one draft choice if he had only gone to Temple

by worldtrip on Feb 19, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions

im dumb

we’re talking about redman.

He was good out of high school, I’m with you, I wouldn’t go so far as to call him elite.

My bad worldtrip.

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Feb 19, 2012 10:08 PM EST up reply actions

That’s it?

by IronJake on Feb 21, 2012 8:08 AM EST up reply actions

your still held up on the “temple” thing?

by NoVAPensFan on Feb 21, 2012 3:53 AM EST up reply actions

You don’t think it was a little ridiculous to think that if he had gone to a bigger school he might have been a number one pick in the draft?

by worldtrip on Feb 21, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions

RushHard Spinthenhaul

I personally like him as a player and a human being. But, I think he turned a lot of people off with his tweets about the death of Osama bin Laden. also, our depth at RB is fantastic, but I’m sure one will be brought in as an UFA anyway. Colbert and company will not miss a chance to find the next Arian Foster

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by steelerfreak76 on Feb 15, 2012 6:22 AM EST reply actions

Huh?

What proof do you have that our depth beyond Redman is fantastic? I don’t see it?

by ThePittsburghLegend412 on Feb 15, 2012 8:24 AM EST reply actions

+1

by GeorgeQUAD on Feb 16, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions

Don’t forget that you guys can roll over leftover cap space from last season to this season. Granted you guys only have about $600,000, any little bit would help I would think.

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by Mr MaLoR on Feb 15, 2012 12:14 PM EST reply actions

We already did, I believe

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by John Stephens on Feb 15, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions

I think he was trying to poke the bear.

by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Feb 15, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions

???

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 15, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions

I just thought you were trying to be an ass by saying we could roll over our big 600k to next year

by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Feb 15, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions

he wuz

by klompus on Feb 15, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions

Not at all. That was a legit comment.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 15, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions

I wasn’t at all. I was serious about it.

"Picture Me Rollin"

by Mr MaLoR on Feb 15, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions

RB depth and B. Batch

Has anyone heard how Byron Batch’s rehab has been going or heard anything about what the staff thinks of him?

He seemed like a good pickup but got hurt too early in camp to really know for sure.

He is someone who could play a significant role this year with Haley. However, that being said he has to impress in Mini camp and OTA’s. Nothing will be handed to him and he is still a player who has never played a down in the NFL.

by MrZoot on Feb 15, 2012 12:21 PM EST reply actions

http://vimeo.com/34266645
This is video he posted at 20 weeks of Rehab back on December 21st.

http://vimeo.com/33174552
This is video from December 7th.

Looks to be coming along fine and should be 100% easily by camp.

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by Steel34D on Feb 15, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions

*December 31st

by Steel34D on Feb 15, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions

That's my boy, Blue!

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by John Stephens on Feb 15, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions

Thanks

for the video posts. The second one it looked like he was moving his feet well.

He looked bigger than I expected. However, he is 210ish and I know fast Willie looked bigger than I thought the one time I saw him up close it is was all muscle.

by MrZoot on Feb 17, 2012 7:43 AM EST up reply actions

Has anyone heard how Byron Batch’s rehab has been going or heard anything about what the staff thinks of him?

All I know is, he seems like he’s a determined young man from what I get from his tweets. He also like to toy with the trolls on his twitter. That dude’s hilarious. By the way, he actually texts his follwers at times.

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Feb 16, 2012 7:13 AM EST up reply actions

I didn't know Mike Tomlin was twitter

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by WVPiratesfan on Feb 16, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions

I am

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Feb 16, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions

I hate to say this....

Tender Wallace and hope that somebody signs him, get their 1st round pick and then restock.

1a) Best available OL – preferably G, but will take a T – Can start Game 1
1b) Either a NT or ILB, which ever does not has more depth – if NT, can start Game 1
2) Pick up the NT or ILB that you did not get in the 1st round – If ILB can start by midseason
3) Another OL – can start by 2013
4) Safety (either strong or free) – 2012 Special Teams only can play significantly by 2013
5) WR – Tall or can block – PS
6) OLB or BPA – PS
7) K or BPA – if BPA PS

I would be willing to sacrifice next year #2 to move up significantly in the 2nd round, but not to trade any of this years picks in rounds 2-4. Need talent too much.

Cut Casey, Hines, Foote, Allen, Scott now.
Farrior comes back at reduced price
Resign Cochery for 2-3 years
Resign Starks to vet min + incentives in July based on knee
Tender all RSA’s

Restock for 2013/2014

by Steeler Nation VA on Feb 16, 2012 9:32 AM EST reply actions

Too Much Risk

Unless a team with picks 1-10 signs Wallace, there is no way I’m parting ways with him. Wallace is proven. A 1st round pick is not. There is too much risk in taking a 1st round draft pick. Too much unknown and possibility of a bust.

Proven>Unknown…..100% of the time.

by ThePittsburghLegend412 on Feb 16, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions

When I bought my last house

I had it checked for RANDON

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by steeldawg on Feb 16, 2012 5:12 PM EST reply actions

Wow

Had to fix that one. Not sure how that wasnt pointed out til now.

by ThePittsburghLegend412 on Feb 16, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions

It still shows up in the link in the browser bar.

Who's laughing now, O Line??? Ben Roethlisberger (from the Podium) to his O-Line and the world in Superbowl XLIII

by SteeladyinVA on Feb 16, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions

so did you have any random randon?

Who's laughing now, O Line??? Ben Roethlisberger (from the Podium) to his O-Line and the world in Superbowl XLIII

by SteeladyinVA on Feb 16, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions

Why does everyone want the Steelers to cut Larry Foote? I can see Farrior, who is like 37 years old, but

Foote is only 31 , knows our system and is a good ILB. Who do we have to replace him, really? And we certainly can’t replace both in the same season. Our run defense would definitely suffer.

Who's laughing now, O Line??? Ben Roethlisberger (from the Podium) to his O-Line and the world in Superbowl XLIII

by SteeladyinVA on Feb 16, 2012 10:47 PM EST reply actions

I cut my foote one time

It was on a beach. ouch!

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Feb 17, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions

Were you able to "work" that following Sunday afternoon?

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by StoneColdSteel on Feb 17, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions

of course not

I was “cut”.

"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill

by PixburghArn on Feb 17, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions

I don't think we'll cut Foote either

he’ll get restructure and mentor the new ILB we’ll bring in, hopefully Ronnel Lewis

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Feb 19, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions

Farrior

on the other hand is done. The 3 years ago he had a bad year because he bulked up, then 2 years ago he lost the weight and had a better year then last year he had another down year, this time there is no excuse other than old age. Its just going to get worse and worse. Its tough because he has done so much for this organization and he means a lot to the team but his playing days are over. We need some young blood in here that can cover RBs out in the flat and TEs over the middle. Will he make some rookie mistakes of course but it will help our team in the long run.

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Feb 19, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions

You think Farrior is the one that’s done? I think if either them is “done” it would be Foote. He was tough to watch some times this year.

But if the 3 million dollar mentor is what you want, why wouldn’t you want the QB of our D to be the guy?

Why do you think there is a LB that can cover RB’s? If there is a RB that is being covered by an LB, I’d think that guys career isn’t going to be very long.

Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?

by FrankWyt on Feb 19, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions

I think they will restructure him

Well thats the LB responsibility isn’t it? When a RB goes out in the flats, who you think will be covering him?

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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 19, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions

It’s their responsibility to try to cover them, yes. Then hope like hell they have backup.

Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?

by FrankWyt on Feb 19, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions

why would they need a back up?

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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 19, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions

because running backs are a lot faster than LB’s?

They aren’t trying to stay with them stride for stride, they are just providing the best coverage they can while db’s or other lb’s converge on the ball.

Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?

by FrankWyt on Feb 19, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions

of course

i thought you mean like a back up player, you mean like help on defense, I got chu.

Yea defense is def. a team game and the more guys you have that can hold their own by themselves the better your defense will be. Just like last year, Troy had to help ILB out a lot in coverage thats why we saw him in the box more than we normally do.

I agree that we need replacements for Foote and Farrior I just don’t see the FO cutting both of them and expecting a rookie or a FA to come in and not have mistakes. Thats why I said I think foote will stay at least one more year in a restructured deal.

As far as speed goes there are some crazy athletes man Zach Brown is a LB with 4.4 speed. Ronnell lewis has 4.5 speed. If we could get Lewis and he play smart, keep good angles, and stay in position, he’ll be able to cover Rbs. Now if they are going on fly routes then no he wont be alone in coverage. But LB have a 10 yard head start on RBs so that helps too.

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Feb 19, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions

Maybe, obviously I’m for whatever helps the team. As I said, I’m not sure the contract difference between Foote and Farrior, I’d just prefer that if someone had to be restructured and kept, that it was Farrior because I feel he has more to offer the team even if his physical skills aren’t quite as good as Foote.

Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?

by FrankWyt on Feb 19, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions

You sure we watched the same games this year?

Foote was pretty good in a limited role. I can only think of one game in which he didn’t look good.

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by StoneColdSteel on Feb 19, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions

Depends, did you watch the games broadcast in universe B or A?
Foote may not have been horrible all the time, but he sure didn’t look good to me.

Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?

by FrankWyt on Feb 19, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions

I'm not sure how good a backup is supposed to play to you

But he most assuredly did not suck this year.

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by StoneColdSteel on Feb 19, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions

I said tough to watch, not suck. It’s possible that it’s a game or two that his name stuck out to me, and that’s all I remember. But that said, I still like what Farrior brings to the table a little better. Though, in a dream scenario, they’d both be replaced by huge upgrades.

Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?

by FrankWyt on Feb 19, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions

What is up with everyone thinking that it’s a smart idea to keep an expensive player to “mentor” someone. We could cut him, and the new guy could just call him on the phone for free. Or, the coaches could do it since that’s part of their job. I understand having a vet to show you the ropes is a nice thing, but certainly not worth the kind of money people are willing to spend just to keep a guy on that they think would be good mentors.

Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?

by FrankWyt on Feb 19, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions

I guess it just has to do with numbers

if we cut foote too then our ILB core is very thin. Its a lot of money but after the restructures, I think we’re only 5-8 million dollars over the cap now. Once Smith comes off the books and hampton and ward restructure we should be fine. We’ll see how the Steelers play it.

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Feb 19, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions

We don’t have to cut both, I was just saying that Foote is less valuable than Farrior. Farrior was still the starting DQB last year. (defensive quarterback). I’m not sure how much more he makes than Foote, but I thought I remembered their numbers being pretty close.

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by FrankWyt on Feb 19, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions

yea

i think they are pretty close, we’ll see how it plays out.

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Feb 19, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions

Why do you prefer Foote though?

Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?

by FrankWyt on Feb 19, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions

Never mind lol. You already said that…it’s was your opening statement.

I guess the question is, do you prefer slightly better athletic skills and less football brains, or more football brains and slightly worse athletic skill?

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by FrankWyt on Feb 19, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions

brains can make up for athletc ability

but being out of place, misreadin plays, taking bad angles can negate athletic ability.

Its all about projecting at this point.

They both are on downward turns in their career at this point. Its just the older you get the more likely it is for your athletic ability to just go down the tubes. So what the FO will try to do is guess if Farrior’s skills will deteriorate at a faster rate than Foote because he has a 6 years advantage in the age department. When you are in your 30s thats a huge advantage.

Sometimes it isn’t a steady decline, sometimes the decline is sharp. Take Smith for example we knew it was going to be tough for him to come back from his injury, but we expect a excellent DE to turn into an average one, not a poor one. I know Smith was dealing with injuries but everyone’s body is different. I’m sure many wish they could have played as long as James has played. So the reason people say foote is because of age and soley on age.

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Feb 19, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions

Do you feel that Farrior was those things? (being out of place etc).

And holy crap, I did not realize that Foote was that much younger, he didn’t seem like it to me. Wow, that changes things, I see your point now.
Damn, I don’t know why I was confused about Foote’s age, I usually know all this crap.

So do you think we could get Plax to replace them both? ;)

Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?

by FrankWyt on Feb 19, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions

Me want Poe

I watched the video highlights, the dude is monster and will our ILB’s Timmons and whoever room to destroy. Requires a double team all the time, which frees up Woodley and Harrison. I think I could get a sack.

by 72Steeler on Feb 18, 2012 6:45 PM EST reply actions