Steelers results for the MtD Live Draft
Hey guys. We just completed our first Mocking the Draft Live Draft and here is who myself and steel.curtain.number2 landed.
Trade: Round Pick 24 to the Panthers for #40, 82, 105 and 136
Round 2 Pick 40: Ronnell Lewis, LB, Oklahoma
Other Options: Alameda Ta'amu, Kevin Zeitler
Round 2 Pick 56: Brandon Washington, OG/OT, Miami
Other Options: Bobby Massie
Round 3 Pick 88: Nate Potter, OT, Boise State
Other Options: None. He was so easily the BPA and filled a big need
Round 4 Pick 101: Juron Criner, WR, Arizona
I traded Pick 105 and our 7th round pick to move up and nab the early 2nd round prospect.
Round 4 Pick 120: Billy Winn, DE, Boise State
Easily the BPA and fills a need as our 4th DE. He is a 3rd round prospect and was too good to pass up here.
Round 5 Pick 136: Brandon Taylor, S, LSU
Again, the BPA and fills a need as a backup safety (future starter), a special teams player, and possibly a nickel corner as well.
Round 6 Pick 165: Chris Marve, ILB, Vanderbilt
I was going to take Marve at Round 5 Pick 152 but worked out a deal with the Browns to get our 7th round pick back.
Round 6 Pick 184: Delvin Johnson, NT, Marshall
I wanted Hebron Fangupo but he went right before I was going to pick. However, Marshall is a good prospect who might be able to become a starter down the road.
Round 7 Pick 216: Tauren Poole, RB, Tennessee
Poole was the BPA and is actually a very good prospect. He had a tough year because of how bad Tennessee was and he could become a good RBBC.
Ultimately I am extremely happy with this draft as we filled some needs early, got some major steals in Winn and Criner, and got a couple guys to fill needs again in the later rounds. Here are the reasons I picked to LB's.
1. Lewis is a versatile guy and is not strictly an ILB. He can be a pass rusher at OLB, he can play some safety, and he can play ILB.
2. Marve is more of the thumper we need while Lewis as an athlete. Marve is basically James Farrior in his size and speed (not his current speed, his old speed).
3. Marve was the BPA
What do yall think of this draft?
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what happened to pick #82
by moonsteeler on Feb 18, 2012 7:26 PM EST via Android app reply actions
82 was not supposed to be in there
that was a typo
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 18, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
good work by seton as usual running things
I may have pitched in a little assistance lol
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Feb 18, 2012 7:30 PM EST reply actions
Yes sir
thanks for all the help
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 18, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
the funniest part was when pick #100 changed hands like 5 times
I think there was pick that changed hands between the Steelers and Browns a bunch as well
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Feb 18, 2012 8:43 PM EST reply actions
Yea. Pick 100 was exchanged 4 times and yes I traded my 7th round pick to the Browns only to get it back later in the draft.
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 18, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
MCM is killing me over the Titans draft based on the fact that I didn't take Mark Barron and took Zach Brown instead
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Feb 18, 2012 8:55 PM EST reply actions
Nice job
But no kicker?! ;)
Overall, looks good. From much of what I’ve read on here lately, I would have expected one more interior OL, though.
by WolfpackSteelersFan on Feb 18, 2012 9:09 PM EST reply actions
tried to get a kicker but Blair Walsh was taken one spot ahead of me in the 7th round
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 19, 2012 2:01 AM EST up reply actions
Did you consider making the person that picked before you disappear? Just how dedicated to this team are you? Judging by you just accepting the fact that the guy took your kicker without doing something about it says “not very”.
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lol
I was so mad when he picked him. The FB I wanted also got picked like 3 picks before my 7th round pick
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 19, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
ehh, oh well. This was still very entertaining anyway. But you have to understand it’s not easy to forgive the fact that you didn’t find us a rope out of Sushi Hell. But I guess I’ll just have to move on.
But yeah, this, and other things you’ve been doing, I don’t believe I’ve taken the opportunity to thank you. Much appreciated and always entertaining.
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thanks man
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 19, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Kickers
I would not waste a draft pick for a kicker. Simply keep Shaun Suisham or sign an UFA.
Dude..how the hell is a kicker a waste? Do you not realize how many problems our kicker caused this year? Not only did he suck at making them, he also put is in bad positions by our coaches not being able to trust him outside of 35 yards. What UFA’s are available? Did you consider who’s available? I’ll tell you this much, probably not anyone good.
Keeping Suisham is without a doubt the dumbest move the team could make. How many kickers do you know that survive a 74% season? The answer is the same as “how many dumb teams would keep a 74% kicker”
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great line
How many kickers do you know that survive a 74% season? The answer is the same as "how many dumb teams would keep a 74% kicker"
Laughed hard.
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 19, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
no NT?
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by nycsteelerfan on Feb 19, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
There was never any good value at NT and I was not going to reach for one when players like
Nate Potter, Juron Criner, Billy Winn, and Brandon Taylor were available. I got those guys all at least 1 round, if not two rounds later (Taylor), or even possibly 3 rounds later then they will get picked (Criner). Or I could have reached for Hebron Fangupo in the 3rd, 4th, or 5th round.
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 19, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
if you need something, sometimes you have to reach
I’d get a NT in the 4th at the very latest before picking a WR, S, DE guys who are all going to be backups next year more than likely.
IF you don’t plug in some talent at NT, I see that following the way the FO has treated the OG position. The Darnell Stapleton effect….
by Steely McSmash on Feb 20, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Criner was a STEAL in the 4th. Nice work on that one.
Must have been a tough decision to get with the LB instead of the NT with the 1st pick. I take it Zeitler was gone by 56?
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by SteelerMessican on Feb 18, 2012 9:17 PM EST reply actions
I would be thrilled if we got Criner in the 4th
Or even the third. I’ve seen mocks where he goes late in the first.
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by LV Steelers Fan on Feb 19, 2012 3:15 AM EST up reply actions
It looks like a very strong draft
where could I find all the selections from the draft listed?
here you go
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Au_NykMAUAyWdFJfV0VDUG8xQ2trSXRBcWVhRXcwSHc&pli=1#gid=0
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Datsyuk, He could deke Victoria out of her secret… He’s THE MAN. posted by Josh Howard on Winging it in Motown 10/13/11
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Feb 18, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
Marve is a good value pick in the 6th
But I dont think he would better than Sly, who I still have hope for.
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by StoneColdSteel on Feb 18, 2012 10:20 PM EST reply actions
Why does everyone think Ronnell Lewis could transition to ILB?
He mainly played olb and de in college and after reading about him from various scouting sites makes it sound his best postion in the 3-4 would be olb
This is good, but you way undervalued the first trade
Last year, the Browns traded the 26th pick and a third rounder (#70) to the Chiefs to move up 5 spots. Yet, somehow you value a 16 pick drop as worth 118 points below what our pick is worth. The 24th pick is worth 740 points, you got a return of 622. This also discounts that teams moving into the first round always overpay. Unless you got us a first rounder next year to go along with one fourth, this trade is not even close to even.
Not trying to be picky, but I would be very upset if Colbert made this trade.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Feb 18, 2012 10:31 PM EST reply actions
We also can't wait until the 6th to grab a NT
by Michael Uhlhorn on Feb 18, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
I also used Walter Football's value chart
Where did you guys get yours?
by Michael Uhlhorn on Feb 18, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
here
http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2010/4/11/1416362/2010-trade-value-chart
2013 picks were worth half the value of 2012 picks
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Feb 18, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
The trade still undervalued the pick by 106 points
So I’m still curious why they would make the change.
Thank you for sending that over.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Feb 18, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
no problem
the craziest trade was for #7 overall, the Bengals essentially gave up their whole draft to the Jags to pick David DeCastro
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Feb 18, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
I went BPA instead of reaching for a NT that was not as good
Potter, Criner, Winn, and Taylor were too good to pass up where I was picking. Those are four starting caliber players right there taken im the third through fifth rounds.
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 19, 2012 2:05 AM EST up reply actions
I didn't mean specific to this draft
I just meant we have to get one, and if that takes a trade, so be it.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Feb 20, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
we also got a 2013 3rd round pick in this trade.
So i like the trade and i did not like the board at 24.
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 19, 2012 2:03 AM EST up reply actions
I just went through the list
Whoever did the Detroit draft should be beaten. Seriously, Brandon Weeden? No defensive ends or linebackers? WTF?
Players
You may have picked more real football players than any other mock. These guys are genuine – especially Lewis, Potter, Criner, Winn & Poole. Washington has to be a beast for this to work. Who is Delvin Johnson? Can’t find him anywhere??
He already said why he didn’t pick an NT. And he’s right in not doing so. Our team wouldn’t just grab an NT for the sake of grabbing an NT, like many on here are expecting/want.
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Hey, we're doing a mock post-draft commentary as well
I think they did an outstanding job, and picked several BPAs with starting potential, and I buy the explanation that they would have otherwise reached for a NT.
Still, we would point out the obvious, and hope that FA or a trade would then bring us Snack’s replacement, which we need now. Otherwise, one of the three pillars of the modern Lebeau defense would be sorely lacking, thereby affecting the other two (OLBs and S), which, as I’ve argued here before, acts as a multiplying effect on our defense.
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by Flying Polamalus on Feb 19, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Of course, but I’m not going to put the whole draft down just because he didn’t grab a certain player/position I felt he should have.
For all we know, the FO might not even be thinking NT, they could feel like they are good to go. I think these guys did a great job too.
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Nice work Seton
Lot of stuff to keep up with, especially all the trades. Solid draft, not crazy about Lewis. Would you have taken Poe(STL #39) if he was there at 40. When the post combine Mock the Draft happens would be nice to have a War Room going on at BTSC. Once again nice work and good luck with the girlfriend. Props to Noles as well.
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I would have taken Poe if he was there without a question.
I think next time we will have a war room on here
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 19, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
If Poe fell to us, would of been a helluva draft
Would you have picked differently in the rest of the draft if you got Poe(obviously Delvin Johnson in the 6th) but anyone else?
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by Pittsblitz56 on Feb 19, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Probably not. Woudl have switched Johnson for Blair Walsh in the 6th
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 19, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
that was a fun read. the wheeling and dealing gives a bit of the excitement of the real draft. I like that you put a lot of thought into these.
thanks
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 19, 2012 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
You did a great job with us
I thought the Bengals trading so much to move that high for DeCastro was not such a good move, and Cordy Glenn was taken too high IMO.
by steelerintexas on Feb 19, 2012 10:20 PM EST reply actions
Who ever did the Cardinals draft did a good job with the first couple
Martin and Streeter fill definite needs.
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What I would have done in this situation....
Gotten Ronnell Lewis but draft Silatolu in the second. Washingtons feet are too slow for me to get him in the second and he won’t be at the combine so it looks like he has solidified himself as a third round pick. Silatolu has better physical potential just hasn’t played against better competition. At #88 I’d have grabbed Crick value is too high at there though Potter is high value just not the type of player the Steelers draft.
Like the Criner pick however would have grabbed Trumaine Johnson at that pick at this point in the 6’2 204lbs CB out of Montana would be a steal he is considered a second round and in this mock he didn’t even get drafted. He had some character concerns but he is going to get drafted.
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At #88 I’d have grabbed Crick value is too high at there
Crick could be a monster in this defense.
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 20, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
trumaine got picked in the second round
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 21, 2012 8:23 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah your right
by San Fran don’t know how I missed it the first time
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question about Wallace
when is the deadline for teams to take away Wallace from us? If I understand correctly, if they sign Wallace we get their 1st round pick. Well, I can take it as long as we get their 1st rounder this year.
But is it possible for teams to sign Wallace after the draft and we get their 1st rounder next year?
That will be very bad situation.
dates
dealine to tender RFA 3/17
Deadline for them to sign with a new team 4/21
by Steely McSmash on Feb 20, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
that means you did good
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 20, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
A+ for everyone who trolled BBI on Saturday by taking all of his picks lol
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Feb 20, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
Who is a fine GM
do you give him tips?
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 20, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
Thoughts on this?
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/42614/will-ravens-and-bengals-pursue-wallace
Personally, I would hope Ozzie doesn’t make a move like this for a few reasons.
1. Big contract, big cap hit, and give up a 1st round pick.
2. More pressing needs
3. Just wouldn’t feel right.
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I don’t know if you could guarantee that you could draft a player at your spot in the draft who would be as good as Wallace. I think to some teams, if they were drafting where Baltimore is drafting, would be well advised to sign him. I don’t know if he is as good a fit for the Ravens as he would be for other teams but taking him would definitely hurt the Steelers so it might be a decent strategic move for the Ravens. He would improve your WR corps and it would put a big dent in the Steelers core.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 20, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t know if you could guarantee that you could draft a player at your spot in the draft who would be as good as Wallace.
Which is why the Ravens might make a move like that. WR is one of the top 3 position we would like to upgrade this year, and no WR at the 29th pick is going to be half as good as Wallace is.
But still, Ozzie doesn’t like to part ways with those 1st round picks, and given our draft history at the bottom of the first round, a future star will fall in our laps most likely.
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I doubt you sign him
It’s why you drafted Torrey Smith. It doesn’t make sense to draft him and then turn around a sign Wallace. Especially with that O-line Flacco wouldn’t have time to throw those PIs to both of them.
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
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wait we're talking about the ravens o-line?
ours isn’t better
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 21, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
No it's not
But we only have Wallace as a deep threat.If he where to go to Baltimore They’d have 2 him and Smith.
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
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OT Potter
Pretty good job over all.
Just not sure about the Potter Pick. Potter; I think will have to impress throuh out the combine, to see him worth more than a 4th round pick.
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