This Shouldn't be Shocking News, but Mike Tomlin is a Great Coach
Shortly after the new year, I had a back and forth email session with someone debating the abilities of Steelers Head Coach Mike Tomlin. It was a respectful debate, but the person I was talking with was certainly on the "anti-Tomlin" side of the issue.
This was right in the middle of the "should he play or shouldn't he play" Ben Roethlisberger high-ankle sprain saga: a saga that proved to be a no-win situation for Tomlin.
During the discussion, this person said that he didn't think Tomlin was a great leader, didn't think Tomlin ever had his team ready to play an entire 60-minute game, and thought Tomlin only really had success because he inherited Bill Cowher's players (in addition to disagreeing with how Tomlin handled Ben's ankle issue).
This kind of criticism is nothing new for coaches--it goes with the territory--and Tomlin certainly isn't the first coach to get criticized and have his abilities questioned. It happens to the best of them.
In fact, the legendary Bill Cowher used to hear similar criticisms all the time. His teams were never ready to play (only after a loss, of course), he was too much of a player's coach, he was way too conservative, and of course, the old stand-by--he always got out-coached in the big games (again, only following a loss).
By the late-90's, just when the Steelers six-year playoff run came to an end (conveniently enough), there was talk that maybe the Rooneys should part ways with Cowher and bring in a new guy who would take the Steelers to the next level.
The Rooneys did the opposite, however. They extended Cowher's contract, and this proved to be a sound move as The Chin was able to survive the lean years and rebuild the team back into a Super Bowl contender by 2001. In 2005, Pittsburgh finally won the "one for the thumb," and Cowher retired as coach just a year later. Today, if you ask any Steelers fan, Bill Cowher was the most perfect coach who ever lived.
I'm not trying to down-play what Bill Cowher did. He had an amazing career and helped to revitalize Steeler Nation after the lean years of the 80's. His 15-year career speaks for itself: 149 regular season victories, 10 trips to the playoffs, two Super Bowl appearances, and a Super Bowl Championship.
What I am saying is that Mike Tomlin is putting together a pretty decent career in his own right. Is he perfect? No, but he's already done so much before the age of 40.
In Tomlin's five years as Steelers head coach, he's averaged 11 wins a year, taken his team to the playoffs four times, been to two Super Bowls, and already has a Super Bowl ring.
I believe Mike Tomlin is a great leader. Is he the kind of coach who wears his emotions on his sleeve? No, but Tomlin convinced me of his extraordinary leadership skills back in 2010. With everything the team faced that year - from Big Ben's suspension to "fine-gate" - the wheels could have easily fallen off the wagon. The Steelers had just missed the playoffs the year before, and I don't think too many people would have been surprised if they struggled to finish at .500. Yet, there they were: despite so many obstacles throughout the year, they were playing in Super Bowl XLV and coming within one drive of winning their seventh title.
I'd say that's an example of a pretty good leader.
As for Tomlin having his team ready to play for 60 minutes - well, it's always easy to say that a team wasn't ready to play after a loss, but I recall Super Bowl XLIII being pulled out in the 60th and final minute. I don't think any Steelers fan will forget those 60 minutes. I'd say a record of 55-25 is a pretty good indication that Mike Tomlin knows how to get his troops ready to play some football on a consistent basis.
And finally, there is that sentiment held by a lot of Steelers fans that Tomlin has been winning with Cowher's players. This is another no-win situation for any coach who takes over a successful franchise. If he succeeds, he only did it because he inherited great talent. If he loses, however, people wonder why he couldn't win with such a loaded roster.
There is no doubt that Tomlin inherited a very talented team from Cowher, but you can say the same thing about Cowher when he took over for Chuck Noll in 1992.
Even though the Emperor didn't have a great record with first round draft choices in his final few years as coach, he still left Cowher with more than enough talent to build from. Neil O'Donnell, Greg Lloyd, Dermontti Dawson, John Jackson, Rod Woodson, Carnell Lake and Ernie Mills were all players that were added to the team in Noll's last few years as head coach. And they were the core of Cowher's playoff teams from the 90's.
The 2012 season has already been a pretty bumpy ride for the Steelers, and with the salary cap issue still unresolved and free agency looming, the roads could become even harder to navigate. But in Mike Tomlin, the Steelers have a pretty good driver behind the wheel.
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Tomlin
Honestly, I wouldn’t trade Tomlin for any other coach in the NFL, and he’s only going to improve in the years ahead. Initially, when Cowher stepped down, I was in the Whisenhunt or Grimm camp. Knew nothing about Tomlin, thought he wasn’t qualified for the job. But when I saw clips of Tomlin at work, and being interviewed by the media, he’s the candidate I was rooting for.
Like in business, groups of people tend to take on the personality of the leader, and the Steelers are no exception. The standard works, and I see this organization in Super Bowl contention for many years to come.
I agree, completely!
I was in the same camp. Who is this Tomlin guy? He can’t coach the Steelers! No one knows who he is!
I wouldn’t give Tomlin up for any other coach in the NFL! His work ethic is top notch! Is Tomlin perfect, no. But no one is.
LIVE FREE OR DIE!
by Shawn M. Jones on Feb 19, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
The only team with a higher winning percentage...
..for the years 2007 through 2011 than Tomlin’s Steelers, is Darth Hoodie’s team in New England.
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
If Mike Tomlin were to walk on water...
…there would be a chorus of Yinzers who would point and say, almost in unison, “you see, we told you he can’t swim!” (Then there would be the grumbling that black folks don’t swim.)
When you look at the chemistry of the clubhouse and how they stuck together in spite of a horrific series of injuries to key players, any fair minded individual must give Tomlin credit for some of that. This year’s team went 12-4 and the guys never ran out of fight. But when Snack and Diesel went down against Denver, they simply ran out of guys in the fight.
His guys respect him. They play their hearts out for him. They play hurt. And they buy the exquisite line of bullshit that he peddles, often repeating his key phrases – word for word – to the media.
I am totally in the tank for Tomlin. He has exceeded my expectations on every count, and I wouldn’t trade him for any other coach, either.
I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer.
- Homer J. Simpson
by Homer J. on Feb 19, 2012 2:52 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
there would be a chorus of Yinzers who would point and say, almost in unison, "you see, we told you he can’t swim!"
That is funny.
I think Tomlin has been a great HC and considering his age, I think the best is yet to come.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 19, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Homer,
I love you almost as much as I love Mike Tomlin. That was one of the funnier lead-off lines I’ve seen in a while…
"If you're not getting better, I don't care what business you're in, you're a dead man. I try to look critically at the mistakes that I make and try to learn from them, like our team does." - Mike Tomlin
by Rebecca Rollett on Feb 19, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
lol!
Personally I like Tomlin better than Cowher. Although I respect Cowher’s success, I prefer Tomlin’s calm and controlled presence on the sidelines to the Chin’s spittle punctuated tirades.
"Kompromise, my friend, is the essence of diplomacy, and diplomacy is the kornerstone of love... sweeeeeet looooOOOve"
by CheekyMonkey on Feb 19, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
Coach T is the man
… and we’re richer for it. I would not be surprised if he has three or four rings when his ride is over. Here’s to a long and glorious run for a guy who walks the walk, talks the talk and is really easy to cheer for!
"If I could start my life all over again, I would be a professional football player, and you damn well better believe I would be a Pittsburgh Steeler." -Jack Lambert, 1990 HoF Introduction
"Most of the time, the most physical team has a chance to win. That is not a reality we shy away from." --Mike Tomlin
by madanthonywayne on Feb 19, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
I literally couldn’t be happier to have Tomlin as the coach. Add me to the list of those who would not trade him for any other coach.
Tomlin is still improving...
A lot of people expected a 35 year old first time head coach to come in and display the veteran decision making of a seasoned field general. That is a bit unrealistic IMO. If you want a young coach, get a young coach. If you want an older coach, get an older coach. There are advantages and disadvantages of either. Tomlin is gaining more and more experience with each passing year. He may never be a Bill Belicheat as far as strategy. But he is getting better.
by StarSpangledSteeler on Feb 19, 2012 6:10 PM EST reply actions
I love Tomlin
I’ve stopped ever replying to a Tomlin-Hater. I’ve come to realize it’s not Tomlin, it’s them. They’d hate the guy who runs up their driveway with the camera crew to deliver their Publishers Clearing House million dollar check:
“You stepped on my purple rhododendrons, jackass! Get the he’ll out of here, who do you think you are?”
I won’t apologize or even defend the man behind the sunglasses who leads this team. I’ve studied leadership principles and chosen leaders to follow (MacArthur, Maxwell, Drucker, Bennis, Senge, etc.), as well as many people in my own immediate circle who rock amazing leadership qualities. So I am no longer going to debate them. The proof is, irrefutable, in the “pudding”…and what delicious pudding it is! (_____________. <————this blank line can be used to insert all of Tomlins achievements and accomplishments thus far).
I was not aware of Tomlin when the Rooneys brought him in, but I immediately did my research and found he was well-respected, well-liked and thought very highly of. His defenses achieved success. Then….I saw him address the media. The qualities that the leadershipnexperts above espouse?
He had ’em.
I knew right then we’d lose both Grimm and Whiz, but I had seen the Kool Aid, drunk of it, and was on board. I had a feeling that the Steelers FO had just coup’ed out the rest of the league.
Anyways, blah blah blah, I love Tomlin. Room to improve? Sure. Were any if us birthed perfect? Not a chance. I would not mind this being Tomlins ONLY head coaching gig.
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by Fifty-Eight on Feb 19, 2012 6:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Pretty sure most around here are aware of how I feel about Tomlin, so obviously this gets a rec.
Even as much as all my friends hate the Steelers, they all still wish Tomlin was their coach.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
I wonder if the folks at DBN would want MT as their coach?
Considering that they would never root for a terrible organization like ours. (Thats what somebody told me over there).
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Feb 19, 2012 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
I know that my brother in law and best friend (both huge Browns fans) both wish they had him. Then again, they aren’t immature, pathetic d-bags like the d-bags at D-bag Nature.
They’d probably come up with some justification for their insane drivel. Something like “we take pride in having an awful coach” or “Tomlin has won too much for me to like him” Or their old standard of relating it to Bens charges or Mendy’s tweets somehow.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
They justified it alright
Bringing up Ben’s off-field problems, Harrison’s “dirty” play, and the obligatory “the refs are always helping them out” excuse.
Plus there’s always a guy that says “I have an inside source that tells me stuff”. This time somebody had an inside source working for the Steelers’ training staff, and apparently that “person” knows for a fact that we do all kinds of PEDs and hide player misconduct all the time.
That person also goes on to say that they would rather “root for the great, upstanding players for the Browns than to root for those thugs in Pittsburgh”. They must be Notre Dame fans as well…
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Feb 19, 2012 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
to their credit, they do provide a lot of comic relief. You gotta give em that.
That “upstanding players” thing is a joke. Besides their actually dirty safety TJ Ward (as in, tries to injure) and their “thug” that thought bringing a gun to the airport was a great idea, they have had stories about their players too. It’s just that they aren’t good, so no one cares.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
would rather "root for the great, upstanding players for the Browns than to root for those thugs in Pittsburgh".
Perhaps if they had more “thugs,” they’d actually win games.
I really don’t understand why they hate Harrison, by dropping McCoy he did them a favor. It made them finally see he’s far too inferior talent-wise to be on that field. And by winning that game, Pittsburgh put Cleveland in a spot to draft a very talented quarterback, who, when Holmgren and his puppet – that thing called Shurmur – screw up his development by running dink-and-dunk BS, will make them see their front office is infected with frauds as well.
Lotsa positives for Cleveland cuz of that one play…if anything, we are the ones who should be pissed at Harrison.
by Neal Coolong on Feb 19, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
It was hard for me to comprehend too
You know your team is bad when the only insult you can throw at us is that our players lack morals.
Here’s to them drafting Trent Richardson or Tannehill.
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Feb 19, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
Considering that they would never root for a terrible organization like ours. (Thats what somebody told me over there).
Let me be the first to express my extreme sadness over people who honestly believe this is true never being able to experience what a winning organization really is.
by Neal Coolong on Feb 19, 2012 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
being able to experience what a winning organization really is.
If the Browns started winning, then they’d call themselves bandwagon fans and hate themselves.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
If the Browns started winning, I would be convinced the world was collapsing on itself.
by Neal Coolong on Feb 19, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The Browns won in the 80's. They had their time.
by Anthony Defeo on Feb 19, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
Geez, man.
They were good in the 1940’s (in a Junior Varisty league against other JV teams, but still…), the 1950’s and 1960’s too……
Um, yeah…so, uh, yeah, there’s that.
by HandsofSweed on Feb 20, 2012 1:17 AM EST up reply actions
The AAFC was so garbage
that they spelled “Varsity” as V-A-R-I-S-T-Y.
The end.
by HandsofSweed on Feb 20, 2012 1:19 AM EST up reply actions
And what the hell
is that random parenthesee doing in there? Hmmm, the AAFC wasn’t even worth the other half of a parenthetical reference, apparently. Meh.
by HandsofSweed on Feb 20, 2012 1:21 AM EST up reply actions
The AAFC had Vitamin T. Smith....my favorite football name of all time...
…and the AAFC forced integration after the War with the legendary Woody Strode and Kenny Washington. Woody was also a popular actor (best known for his role in westerns and in the movie Spartacus), and he actually married Queen Lilioukalani’s daughter. (Woody was laid to rest in Riverside National Military Cemetery in California next to my Uncle Milt and Aunt Jeri, so I looked him up and learned about this remarkable man. Strode, Washington, and Jackie Robinson were together in the 1939 UCLA backfield)
The Browns not only won every AAFC title, but they moved over to the NFL and won something like five NFL titles in a row. Otto Graham and Marion Motley were like grown men playing against children. From 1946 to 1955, the Browns were the definition of the word dynasty. By far, the best team in football.
Of course, over the past twenty years, they have been pretty much awful. Except for when they have been worse than that. They are to the NFL what the Pirates are to the NL. Except Browns fans deserve it, and then some.
I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer.
- Homer J. Simpson
I won't even try to match the eloquence expressed so far in defense of Tomlin
I will add something that may enhance our perspective.
I remember flying into Pittsburgh to visit my ailing father. I rode an airport limo into down that had a sports talk show on the radio. A few callers were making the case that the team should fire Chuck Noll. Now understand, this wasn’t in the early 70s while the team was being built or the 80s after the Steelers had fallen into mediocrity. This was in the midst of the championship run in the mid to late 70s. This is when I came to the sad realization that the storied sophistication of Steelers fans was, at least partially, false. There are people in our midst who would fire Tomlin, trade Ben and replace the Rooneys, all in the same day if they could. There is no nice way to say this, these people are idiots.
Each year that the Steelers went to the SB under Tomlin it occurred despite the fact that their most devout fans had written the team off before the season began. You could argue that the man hasn’t reached his prime as of yet. Any other fan base would love to have him, except some of ours because they think they know better.
by Ivan Cole (RickVa) on Feb 19, 2012 7:14 PM EST reply actions
1977 Steelers
Come to think of it, I do recall some criticism of Noll during the turbulent 9-5 season of 1977. The Steelers had great expectations that year, coming off the red hot finish of 1976. But there were a few unexpected events which contributed to the one and out in the playoffs at Denver. Noll actually had to testify in a lawsuit involving violent hits on the field(forget the details right now). There were a couple of players with contract issues, and Bradshaw suffered a broken left wrist which affected his play. The defense was surprisingly inconsistent, and at one point, the club was only 4-4.
by SteelStealth on Feb 19, 2012 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
I own a pictorial book written by Pat Livingston, and in it, he mentioned some unrest on the '77 team causing their demise.
I always wondered what that unrest was since I wasn’t really in the loop as a fan at the age of five, but now I know what that unrest was. Thanks, Stealth!
by Anthony Defeo on Feb 19, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
Noll Lawsuit
The August 1977 defamation lawsuit was brought against Chuck Noll and the Steelers by Raiders defensive back George Atkinson. Noll referred to Atkinson as a “criminal element” after the Raider gave Lynn Swann a second straight concussion in the 1976 playoffs. On both occasions, Atkinson had elbowed Swann from behind. After Noll made the comment, Atkinson brought the suit.
The suit was later dismissed, but we can imagine the distraction wasn’t helpful. Noll was always totally focused on football, and this off field business must have been irritating.
by SteelStealth on Feb 19, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
For all the good Al Davis incorporated to the structure of modern football, as a person he was an undermining scumbag
I pledge allegiance to the Terrible Towel and the only team in America, and to the franchise for which it stands, one nation under Rooney, indivisible, with the ability to crush you all.
"He was popping off down there the first time they were about to score. So you run your mouth, expect to get something. Everything's between the lines, so he got what he had coming. He was running his mouth and getting in the way of the train, and the train wasn't coming off the track."
-James Harrison on Kyle Orton
So…you know him personally? Is it possible that he treated certain types of people the exact same way you’d treat those people if you were in his position?
I don't get it, I've bought my wife a vacuum cleaner for Valentine's day four years in a row, and she still doesn't understand.......
just how much I love her
he was behind the trial in mention - Dan Rooney shared that info in his book
I pledge allegiance to the Terrible Towel and the only team in America, and to the franchise for which it stands, one nation under Rooney, indivisible, with the ability to crush you all.
"He was popping off down there the first time they were about to score. So you run your mouth, expect to get something. Everything's between the lines, so he got what he had coming. He was running his mouth and getting in the way of the train, and the train wasn't coming off the track."
-James Harrison on Kyle Orton
Frank, Stealth and Chachi are referring to the 1977 defamation lawsuit.....
…which Davis clearly orchestrated.
Atkinson’s (Davis’) lawyers called Noll to the stand and forced him to admit that some Steeler players had delivered cheap shots. Noll was forced to concede that Mel Blount had done so. Noll was under oath, of course, but some of the things he said caused dissention in the Steeler locker room. Of course, Noll being in a San Francisco courtroom while the team was at Latrobe was what you might call a distraction.
Al Davis was remarkably loyal and charitable to his players and especially his former players. He also was a key mover and shaker in the AFL-NFL merger.
But he spent most of his latter years at war with the NFL and its commissioners, and he was – to be blunt about it – a litigious prick.
I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer.
- Homer J. Simpson
George Atkinson
I feel confident from watching George Atkinson on NFL network “best of” shows that he qualifies as a scumbag in his own right.
That whole thing continues to this day
If you watch the various NFL films programs on NFLN Atkinson still delights in referring to Swann as “soft”. He’s such a punk.
by Ivan Cole (RickVa) on Feb 20, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Tomlin is great
I agree, you all know I wrote a rather critical post a while back. I still maintain he has a lot of work to do and has areas that need improvement, areas that I feel havent been completely addressed.
Really though, we probably have such a small idea of how hard it is to run a team and make them all perform at their highest level week in and week out. As the 55-25 record suggests, Tomlin’s better at that than the rest. I’ve never questioned his ability to lead and inspire players.
I just want him to work on the technical things, gameday rosters, clock management, planning etc.
I think he’s gonna be our coach for a long time, and he’s only bound to get better. Hopefully the team can retain the talent necessary for him to be successful.
Cowher never had a real great QB until Ben. We saw what happened once Ben+Cowher got together, hopefully Tomlin has a good team to work with year in and year out, and that rests on Colbert’s shoulders by and large. I’m excited for the future with MT and Co.
2nd 2 NONE!
You have got my 110% support on the statement that Tomlin is a Great Coach. IMO We have the BEST coach in the NFL. And yes, he had some talent passed on to him by Cowher, but he also landed more than a few Great Talents as well. He’s in no means Perfect, but stack the negatives to the positives, and there is no comparison. I Love me some " Tomlin-ism ". No other coach in the current NFL speaks with the same respect and philosophy that Tomlin does. " The Standard is The Standard ", " No Excuses, No Explanations ", " We Own That Tape ", " Theres a Fine Line Between Drinking Wine and Grape Squashing, Last Weekend We Were Grape Squashers " And that, to me, makes him 2nd 2 NONE! Tomlin, Damn Glad You’re a STEELER!
" I'M NOT A THIEF....... I'M A STEELER!!! and In It 4 LIFE!!!!!! "
Love Tomlin
I am very happy he is our head coach. Right after the Super Bowl loss to the Packers, one of my friends who is a huge Packer fan called me to tell me how awesome he thought Tomlin was! That was after his team had won. Tomlin is high class.
hhhheaaattttthhhhh!
"You have to under promise and over deliver." Mike Tomlin
Question???
No doubt MT is right up there. As they say,“check the record”. As stated before though, there are a few areas that could stand inprovement. I believe one of them was brought to light during a BA interview where he said," Coach Tomlin had not changed a play, stopped a play, or put in a play in the entire time that BA had been OC, or words to that effect. I was stunned to hear that. Just think about what was said. To me that is unbelievable. I understand that you let youre coaches coach, but no input, especially what we saw at times, esp. in the red zone. No input?? Maybe I just don’t understand the big picture?
for all those who still claim that Tomlin is winning with Cowher's roster:
the following players have all become Steelers and/or emerged as stars AFTER the 2006 season (cowher’s last one)
James Harrison —first pro bowl, 10 sack year in 07 Tomlin’s first two draft picks (not bad huh?)
- Timmons and Woodley -
- Ziggy and Cam Heyward — D-line’s future looking good (pending future NT)
- Pouncey — when healthy, the best C in the NFL, and (see below)
- Gilbert — not bad either (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7422968/considering-cap-hits-production-players-provided-best-value-nfl)
- Mike Wallace — already a star WR, 1,250 yds and 11 TDs not bad for a “one trick pony”
- Emmanuel Sanders — acc. to Hines he is the best route-runner on the team
- Antonio Brown — the 5th round pick was the 1st player in NFL history with 1,000 yards both receiving and returning last year, not to mention the clutch post-season catches last year
- Redman — tough RB, very impressive in Denver
- Mendenhall -almost forgot about this guy! despite an unimpressive 2011, he did have 2 very solid years prior blossomed this year after spending the last 2 in MT’s doghouse
- Keenan Lewis -
- C.Brown, C.Allen, Sylvester…—special teams aces
you get the point. yes: ben, hines, heath, hampton, keisel, farrior, ike, and troy, and clark, etc. are all vital pieces of the team’s core, but other very significant members have jumped aboard post-Cowher. MT deserves WAY MORE CREDIT for the current personnel than he gets
IIRC, Harrison had about 8.5 sacks in 07', then exploded the next season.
Pittsburgh Steelers fan - nuff said.
Miami Hurricanes fan - nuff said.
Georgetown Hoyas fan - nuff said.
Cleveland Cavaliers fan - um yeah, about that...
by StoneColdSteel on Feb 19, 2012 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
i stand corrected
yet at the same time, it further proves my point. in 2 years under coach tomlin, james turned from a backup to a solid OLB to a DPOY
i forgot to mention coaches:
under Tomlin, we’ve seen upgrades at a number of assistant coach positions, including OL coach Sean Kugler, ST coach Al Everest, DB coach Carnell Lake, and OC Todd Haley (who i think will be very good)
You ain't kidding,
Todd Haley is going to be the goddang TRUTH.
by HandsofSweed on Feb 20, 2012 1:30 AM EST up reply actions
Heck Yes
I pledge allegiance to the Terrible Towel and the only team in America, and to the franchise for which it stands, one nation under Rooney, indivisible, with the ability to crush you all.
"He was popping off down there the first time they were about to score. So you run your mouth, expect to get something. Everything's between the lines, so he got what he had coming. He was running his mouth and getting in the way of the train, and the train wasn't coming off the track."
-James Harrison on Kyle Orton
room to improve
I am a young buck, became a Steelers fan in the early 90’s. I miss seeing the Chin, and seeing him fired up on the sidelines when things weren’t working, and seeing the spit fly out of his mouth as he screamed at coaches and players. I miss that intensity on the sidelines.
That being said, Coach Tomlin is a great coach and a great figurehead for the Steelers. I appreciate his no-nonsense approach and his lines (especially “the standard is the standard”), however I still miss the intensity on the sidelines. I wish that he would have stepped in and over ruled BA when he was calling some sh-t stupid play.
Didn't he insist that BA "Call his game" right before the crucial 3rd and 6 to Antonio Brown in the AFC Championship game? That's showing some leadership as a coach.
Some coaches may have played it closer to the vest and kept the ball on the ground just to wind some clock.
by Anthony Defeo on Feb 19, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
Fear Not...
We just hired Todd Haley to be our offensive coordinator. You’ll get all the sideline yelling and spitting you want.
by StarSpangledSteeler on Feb 19, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
Winning With Cowher's Players
Tony, great as always.
And, finally, there is that sentiment held by a lot of Steelers fans that Tomlin has been winning with Cowher’s players. This is another no-win situation for any coach who takes over a successful franchise. If he succeeds, he only did it because he inherited great talent. If he loses, however, people wonder why he couldn’t win with such a loaded roster.
Others have already commented on how the roster has changed under Tomlin, so I won’t take up that thread.
But this idea that being handed the keys to a Championship Caliber team some how devalues a coach’s is really just short-sighted.
While some coaches have succeeded simply riding the momentum of their predecessor (think Barry Switzer), others have failed miserably (think Ray Handley).
Don’t forget, that Tomlin got the job with most of the locker room rooting for Wiz or Grimm to get the job, had to deal with losing Joey Porter, and had to deal with Alan Fananca. He dealt with all three with flying colors and of course won a Super Bowl a year later.
by Hombre de Acero on Feb 19, 2012 11:27 PM EST reply actions
when people talk about
Cowher’s intensity on the football field, they tend to forget one detail.
I think Cowher was very intense in the beginning oh his career… As he got older and failures in AFC championships compiled, Cowher’s intensity just disappeared in the second half of his career. At times, in the beginning of 2000s he looked not intense, but tired coach, cuz he understood all those spits and fire up speeches didn’t help his team at all.
Tomlin is a good coaoch
I don’t think there are many saying different. I was suspect at first but that i spart of being a Steeler fan, it is tough to come in after we were use to Noll and Cowher.
I would say we will still be seeing Tomlin on the sideline of the Steelers for a long tim eto come
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Tomlin and Cowher very very different
Cowher was much more of a players coach, he also took an active part in play calling during the games. Tomlin while liking his team is not too close to the players, he also never interferes with his coordinators.
Cowher’s diifficulty in winning AFC championship games was his Waterloo, granted some of those teams would have lost in the Super Bowl but he underachieved in those games, when they were favored at home.
His coaching at the end of 2005 was superb, they had no business getting to the Super Bowl.
Tomlin is the Man
When the Rooneys were interviewing for a new head coach my wife and I both wanted Tomlin to get the job because of what he did as the Vikings DC. We loved Wiz but wanted a defensive minded coach, and the Vikings defense was tops in the league under him.
Then when he came here he didn’t insist that we run a 4-3 like in Minn but let Lebeau keep doing what he does. That to me was the most impressive thing about him. He was secure enough in himself to adapt to what the Steelers already did well rather than shaking everything up just to stoke his ego.
I guess what I mean is even though he is a master of the 4-3 defense and it worked well for him in Minn he did not have the attitude that that was the only way because it worked for him. To me that shows that he’s secure enough in himself that he doesn’t need to prove how much smarter he is than everyone else, and was willing to keep the best DC in history even though they ran different systems.
Like I said, Tomlin is THE MAN.
Love this
http://deadspin.com/5886320/mike-tomlin-not-a-fan-of-cameras
What do you all think of this? Tomlin has cameras in his face constantly, I think its not too much to ask to give him a break at a college basketball game.
I love the Steelers.
Tomlin > Cowher
It’s really as simple as that. Cowher is from the Schottenheimer school of play it safe, always field a B+ team, and grind out more Ws than Ls. Always the bridesmaid and never the bride, always a tier below the upper-echelon teams like the 90’s Cowboys, 49ers, Broncos, and Packers, and the early 00’s Patriots. Or, worse, upset by inferior teams like the ’94 Chargers and ’01 Patriots.
Tomlin, however, is championship-calibre. Like Chuck Noll, like Bellichick, like Parcells, like Walsh—even Jimmy Johnson (I’m loathe to admit). Guys who will occasionally do what’s not expected (which, ironically, was when Cowher was at his best—think the onside kick in SB XXX, or the gadget play in SB XV), who will take a team that’s not the most talented, or a frontrunner, and knife down the “better” teams with sneaky good play at the right times. That certain something, that feeling that the Steelers are going to pull through, that used to happen during the Noll years. Against the Ravens in ’08 and ’10, against the Jets in ’10, against so many other teams in ’08 (Dallas, New England, San Diego)—it was going to happen, and it did. Not second place, not a solid season with a solid defense who gets outplayed at the moment it needs to step up, but victory.
Yes, Cowher did it 2005, but only after heartbreaks in 2004, 2001, 1997, 1995, and 1994. Strong defense, strong running game, horrible passing game, and that stupid grin after losses.
I know I sound unfair, but I’d take Tomlin over Cowher any day of the week. And I know the Steelers had disappointing finishes these last two years, but with Tomlin there’s already a SB win, and I see more on the horizon.
I think its too early to annoint Tomlin as a great Head Coach...
In Tomlin’s five years as Steelers head coach, he’s averaged 11 wins a year, taken his team to the playoffs four times, been to two Super Bowls, and already has a Super Bowl ring.
and in these past 5 years, Tomlin achieved that laudable record with 9 starters on defense, and 6 starters on offense, including a Top 5 franchise quarterback, all from the Cowher era. Cowher on the other hand, at the same 5 year mark, only had 3 starters on defense, and 2 starters on offense, from the Noll era.
Don’t get me wrong, I like Tomlin’s leadership; the way he led the team through the distractions and disadvantages of Ben’s suspension, the issues of H2H hits, Harrison’s suspension, etc. I love the way he handles the media in presenting a “face of the franchise”, and his Tomlinisms are classic.
However, there is a huge difference between knowing how to lead, and knowing the aspects of football that maintain success, and his ability as a football coach are going to be sorely tested this year, and the next few years, as all those “Cowher Hand-me-downs” finally reach the ends of their careers. For every Timmons and Woodley (draft class 2007, rounds 1 and 2) Tomlin and Colbert have selected, they’ve also picked a Sweed (2008) and Urbik (2009).
And before yinz jump all over me with “what about….”, let’s also remember that Tomlin has only now made his first real coaching pick, hiring Todd Haley; my computer is still smoldering from the flames that ensued from the debate on that pick here on BTSC; Tomlin’s next major pick will be (eventually) LeBeau’s replacement.
So while I agree with all of yinz on Tomlin’s leadership qualities, and have seen promising signs in the collaborative work he’s done with Colbert on some picks, I believe the jury is still out. This will be primarily Tomlin’s secondary (Troy and Ryan excepted), but still run under LeBeau. Tomlin’s true test will come when the wheel has fully turned, and the Steeler team fully becomes imprinted by Tomlin.
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