2012 NFL Scouting Combine Open Thread: Defensive Backs Close the Show
by Neal Coolong on Feb 28, 2012 9:01 AM EST
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The Combine gives us as close to our fix of football in February, outside of game replays and XBox. It wraps up today, with the running, jumping, shuttling and interviewing of the defensive backs prospects.
It's usually the most entertaining group, with many of the draft's premier athletes looking for jobs with NFL teams among the secondary. While the Steelers look fairly set at cornerback (mostly due to their high level of attention paid to the cornerback position in the last few drafts), the selection of a safety to serve as an understudy for the next year or two seems like a viable option.
As far as the safety position overall, it appears Alabama's Mark Barron leads all other prospects, and figures to land somewhere in the first round.
Watching LSU's Morris Claiborne (a likely top six or seven pick) run will be interesting, assuming he chooses not to follow the annoying trend of not working out at the Combine.
There are plenty others, so log in and give us your opinions and analysis of the most athletic group (no bias there) in their big stage workout.
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Funny how our thinnest postion became our deepest in 1 year
by jedmiller71 on Feb 28, 2012 9:06 AM EST via mobile reply actions
2011 was a great draft
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 28, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't say it's deep
Just filled. We still don’t know if Allen or Brown will be good CBs.
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by John Stephens on Feb 28, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
Allen is off to a good start
The Steelers got more out of him, than what I expected to see in his first season.
by Greig Clawson on Feb 28, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
Somehow I doubt this thread will generate 572 comments of interest.
Geez guys, its the off season…! 572 comments in a combine post is ridiculous. Just goes to show you the unprecedented growth of SBnation. But I guess Poe’s workout will do that. We better get him.
Well
It was mostly two jerks eating up the thread
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by John Stephens on Feb 28, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah who would do that?
If I ever find those guys, I’ll give them a piece of my mind.
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biting my tongue
My snarky comments about Burflict are bringing out the worst in me.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 28, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
Iloka 4.59
He is huge for a DB.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 28, 2012 9:25 AM EST reply actions
Jenkins is up
doesn’t appear to be smoking a doobie
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4.44
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by John Stephens on Feb 28, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
probably had hash brownies
Assuming the facility is non-smoking.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 28, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
or extract.
but honestly, any dope fiend type who needs to pass certain tests will just get that synthetic stuff- jl 18 or whatever it is.
They might test for it at the Combine
I know the military does.
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thats funny- they didnt when I heard about it- from a military guy, no less.
When he told us he was going to sign up, we said they don’t take potheads. He then mentioned that 18 stuff. He’s still in service so not sure how much testing goes on in the middle east.
I'm not sure if it's the same stuff
I know they do test for spice (excuse my ignorance here). I’ve seen a few guys pop for it.
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I'm the ignorant one- I know nothing about this stuff.
They need to do a ‘Breaking Bad’ style series to educate me. Perhaps it could be called Grinding Spice?
heh
I picked up season 1 of Breaking Bad. My boys love it. I haven’t watched it yet.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 28, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
any dope fiend
Because smoking weed makes you a “dope fiend”, right?
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
No, but being so dedicated to smoking that you’d risk a lucrative NFL career sure does. (or any career for that matter)
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weed isn't addictive
I quit on the first try. lol
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 28, 2012 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
What? Why did you feel the need to bring that up?
Fiend “a person extremely devoted to a pursuit or study”.
I’m aware that it isn’t addictive physically. I don’t have a problem with it, and I’ve smoked my share. But if you are about to throw your NFL, or any other career away because you just have to smoke, you’re A) an idiot, and B) psychologically addicted, or just an idiot. And, you are that “fiend” tag that Riddlah was refuting.
One likes to believe in the freedom of music. But glittering prizes and endless compromises, shatter the illusion of integrity.
I brung it up for laughs
not going to argue here, personally I just think he was dumb but it doesn’t really matter.
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 29, 2012 8:42 AM EST up reply actions
Guys to keep an eye on today
are mostly S that aren’t Mark Barron. Antonio Allen, Janzen Jackson (insert witty joke about felony here), and a guy like Brandon Taylor. IIoka has already been mentioned as well, but he maybe a 3rd rounder.
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I’d like a safety late
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by John Stephens on Feb 28, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
Ideally
We go some combination of safety, kicker, and QB to replace Dennis Dixon.
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Didn't we already replace Dixon
when we signed Jarrod Johnson and Troy Smith? I doubt that a late round QB is going to come to camp with a better skill set, than either either QB.
by Greig Clawson on Feb 28, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Insert jokes about me being a homer here
But if Stephon Gilmore falls to the 3rd, he maybe a guy they pop too. He’s a superb tackler who fits into a zone system very well. He got beat in man coverage a lot, but when you’re constantly in man coverage against some of the SECs best receivers, that’s going to happen.
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Trumaine Johnson has nice size and long arms
4.5 40 is solid
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Where do you think he plays?
S or CB?
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I haven’t watched him play, but if he can cover man to man he could be a great CB. Wit his size though, I bet his hips are a bit stiff.
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by John Stephens on Feb 28, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions
Position drills will be pick
He’s got good enough size that if he’s a willing and capable tackler, he could play safety and do so very well.
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I just watched some of him
I think he’d be a better safety
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by John Stephens on Feb 28, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
Google the tape?
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Watched some of the Central Arkansas game and Northern Iowa
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by John Stephens on Feb 28, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
Found them
He probably is a safety. There’s a lot of good stuff there, and I think it could be a good role for them, especially if he gets a chance to develop. He needs to learn to tackle a little better though. There’s a decent amount of missed tackles there
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Solid tackler and smart at undercutting routes. He’s not great at diagnosing plays though or keeping with WRs.
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by John Stephens on Feb 28, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
Supported the run pretty well, I was impressed in that aspect. A lot of guys have no desire to do so. You’re right, he did cut a lot of routes, and he’s got the recovery speed he needs when he’s wrong. He doesn’t strike me as a cover corner though. Definitely better slotted at S
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My wife
always looks at me funny when I say a guy has stiff hips….
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 28, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
haha
felt weird after i typed it
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by John Stephens on Feb 28, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
4.53 second time
Not bad.
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DBs are more fun to watch the position drills
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Looks a lot like yesterday in the 40
Not many guys running a faster 2nd time.
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Jenkins blazed his second 40 too
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 28, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
+13
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by TVsCHACHI on Feb 28, 2012 11:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
DB in 1st round not outside the realm of possibility
If someone unexpected drops. Brown and Allen are still unproven.
Who though?
I don’t think Claiborne or Kirkpatrick fall past 15. And I don’t want Jenkins.
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by John Stephens on Feb 28, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
No one thought mendenhall would fall
Kirkpatrick could tumble.
Barron? We don’t need a strong safety at all, but maybe they think they’re getting a top 10 talent who fell because of injury?
Mostly I’m throwing it out there that we shouldn’t think CB and S are off the table in rounds 1-3
by syrsteelerfan on Feb 28, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
I think Barron is overrated IMO. I think he’s a mid-2nd talent. Mendenhall fell because he is a RB and that draft was loaded with RBs. Since then though, the importance of that position has dropped off. Big tall CBs who can cover are in high demand.
I’m not saying CB or S is off the table. I just don’t think this is a great draft for DBs.
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by John Stephens on Feb 28, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
I would say
Earliest we see a DB is round 3. There’s just too many other immediate needs right now. Claiborne won’t leave the top 10, I doubt Kirkpatrick leaves the top 15 since his charges got dropped, assuming he interviews well. The only question is Jenkins falling, but there’s serious character questions there and I’m not so interested in dealing with that with a 1st rounder.
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Plus Jenkins is 5’9 and some change? I’d want my first round CB pick to be at least 5’11
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by John Stephens on Feb 28, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah
But he plays bigger than that. When he was at Florida, he had no problem shutting guys like Alshon Jeffery down, who is 6’4"
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and AJ Green and Julio Jones
kid’s a legit playmaker
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
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by WVPiratesfan on Feb 28, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
I guess he just seems like the next Pacman tome
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by John Stephens on Feb 28, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Everything I've heard is that he's straightened his life out
Pac-Man has yet to do that
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by WVPiratesfan on Feb 28, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
How many times did we hear Pacman say that though?
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by John Stephens on Feb 28, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
I hate when they don't put the names when they are doing these drills
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He weighed in and did bench
I didn’t see him do the 40
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by John Stephens on Feb 28, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
Played hookie from work today
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by Pittsblitz56 on Feb 28, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
To watch DBs?
Or just because
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by John Stephens on Feb 28, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
Had a couple of days to burn
today is as good as any.
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by Pittsblitz56 on Feb 28, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
It's supposed to be nice out
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by John Stephens on Feb 28, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Got in a little trout fishing this morning.
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by Pittsblitz56 on Feb 28, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
So Ron Brooks has the fastest combine 40
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at 5'10, 190, he might be worht a late round flyer
because of his speed and ability to play the slot. I know he didn’t play much, but he was behind some serious talent at LSU.
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Watching the DBs catch is full of lols
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Hand's are put on backwards
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
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by WVPiratesfan on Feb 28, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Richardson
4.50 for a big guy. I don’t know much about him but seems like an interesting possibility at Safety.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 28, 2012 12:08 PM EST reply actions
Someone ran a 4.31?
Holy smokes!
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 28, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
doesn't make a big difference
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by John Stephens on Feb 28, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think Chaz Powell has enough tattoos
I wouldn’t draft him unless he gets some on his face too.
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Who is 46?
He ain’t no DB…Jeez
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6'1 213
Looks bigger than 213
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by John Stephens on Feb 28, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Here comes Josh Robinson for his second go
I wanna see sub 4.3!
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4.29!!!
sweet
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by John Stephens on Feb 28, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
He was projected as a 5th rounder
I could see him shooting up to early 4th or 3rd
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by John Stephens on Feb 28, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
4.29
that does seem somewhat fast.
Assuming ILB, OG/T and NT in 1st 3 rounds.
What do we get in the last 4 rounds? CB, S, K, 2nd OL and ?
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 28, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
I really don’t know. I think we should get a K and another OL. After that I’d be fine with anything.
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by John Stephens on Feb 28, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Phillip Thomas starting to be one of my favorite prospects
ran a 4.72 and then second attempt dropped down to 4.59. you can tell if he had been trained a little better in the mechanics of running a 40 he could be even faster.
by steel.curtain.number2 on Feb 28, 2012 12:42 PM EST reply actions
I'm eager to see Robinson in the drills
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by John Stephens on Feb 28, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
I want to see Richardson
I like the idea of a big safety to study behind Troy and Clark. I have no idea if he is any good but he has the size and 4.50 speed which seems decent.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 28, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Jenkins
I am thinking either Cincy or Jets in the second. I see him as a Cincy type guy but maybe the Jets will grab him first because he has fewer kids than Cromartie and Bluntonio needs a smoking partner.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 28, 2012 12:56 PM EST reply actions
Whoo,
you are feeling snarky, aren’t you, COSF? Must be cabin fever : )
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by Rebecca Rollett on Feb 29, 2012 5:30 AM EST up reply actions
I know
I think it is more to do with having to deal with too many sick people and not getting enough sleep. The barriers are down and my inner snark is escaping.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 29, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
Kirkpatrick is so thin
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Claiborne not that impressive in the broad or vert
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Luck is a better athlete than some of the DBs, lol
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again? I never stopped
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by John Stephens on Feb 28, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Who cares about these guys?
When is Rich Eisen going to run the 40?
exactly I wanna see what a 7s 40 look like
lol
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 28, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
6.08 iirc
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 28, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Is that your 40 time? or RE?
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 28, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Eisen, It was 6.25 I think
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nice
he should be getting better
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 28, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
I couldn't do a 6.08 40
I am a retired desk jockey with a lazy streak.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 28, 2012 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
yea you could
we believe!!!!
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I will need to the van then
It has better pickup than the sedan.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 28, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
How has Iloka
Martin and smith looked?
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
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Ioka had a bit of stiff hips from what I remember, I think he almost fell in one of his turns. I didn’t watch the other two closely.
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by John Stephens on Feb 28, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
You and tannofsteel are responsible for all three instances in my life where I’ve heard the term “stiff hips”.
One likes to believe in the freedom of music. But glittering prizes and endless compromises, shatter the illusion of integrity.
stiff hips
I have been hearing it every draft season since I started reading this blog.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 28, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve only been around for this draft, and usually I don’t get too much in to the draft scene. I’m not doubting it’s a common phrase around draft time, I just wasn’t aware of it until today.
I’ve been wondering this forever, what do you mean by your yahoo account being “hacked”?
One likes to believe in the freedom of music. But glittering prizes and endless compromises, shatter the illusion of integrity.
someone hacked the account and took it over
Eventually I got Yahoo to close it (I think) and I opened an new account. I use different accounts for different things just like I have separate credit card for internet purchases (with a very low limit) and I never buy anything with my bank card.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 28, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
He backpedals a bit too erect.
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by John Stephens on Feb 28, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
not touching this one at all...
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 28, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
What?
He goes too hard to the hole.
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by John Stephens on Feb 28, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
I was always high on Josh Robinson and this confirms my thoughts that he is a 2nd to 3rd round pick
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What are your thoughts about Indy going with RG# rather than Luck? I read an interesting take yesterday that Luck did not play so well against top 10 defenses and then I watched RG3’s interview/board session with Mariucc (sp) this morning on NFL Network and the kid seemed extremely impressive. So, what do you think? Has anyone suggested that on MTD?
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that would be wild
Especially if Luck decided he didn’t want to play for whatever team traded for the #2 pick.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 28, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
We try to share with him
Though he isn’t as good about sharing with us.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 28, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
Watching the Combine now that I am done with school...
Couple notes so far…
Iloka is off my board, guy can’t change direction at all…
Trumaine Johnson looks better as a saftey
Talent in Group 1 is bad…
Josh Robinson smooth running the 1st 40 looks like he continues his climb into the second round.
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Damn 2nd round on Robinson
I thought he might be there in the 3rd
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by John Stephens on Feb 28, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah just noticed I missed type second
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typo
meant third round for Robinson
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Well starting to catch up on the combine
Some of the winners are Josh Robinson and Winston Guy Jr. so far
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 28, 2012 3:43 PM EST reply actions
Dwight Bentley is also a winner as well
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 28, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
Ryan Steed is a huge loser as well
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 28, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Robinson was beasty
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by John Stephens on Feb 28, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
I knew he would blow it up
He is a monster
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 28, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
I guess im gonna go start working on a Mock Draft
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 28, 2012 3:59 PM EST reply actions
More notes
Harrison Smith better feet and hips than I thought
Christian Thompson question mark about mental agility and he is showing why
Want to see more of Josh Norman but they keep cutting away from the drills to talk about nothing.
All they are showing is Robinson, who has stiff hip for a guy that fast
Again Harrison Smith great for a taller player
Another cut out I want to see Norman and Kirkpatrick not Robinson!
Now they just missed a bunch to show Eisen fat ass running horribly slow
Damn Harrison Smith look great there
Robinson so much quicker than 31 Judyie in competition drill but his hand suck
Again they cut from Norman guess i am just going to have to watch east west again.
Winners, Robinson (speed always draft high good balance in moving, stiffer hips then numbers suggest, bad hands), Smith (great hips for a safety, goo ball skills, good feet and good speed for safety) Dwight Bentley (continues his rise from Senior Bowl so smooth with his feet, height issues but a baller)
Losers Iloka ( dude can’t change direction and is not a physical tackler on tape), Who ever ran that 4.7, Trumaine Johnson ( showed he is more of a safety then corner because of change of direction skill) hell be a good one though.
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The 4.7 was Ryan Steed from Furman
and also, I thought Johnson was a winner because how good he looked as a safety prospect. Yes it limits him because he is no longer versatile or a corner propsect but he showed that he could be the 4th or 5th best safety in the class
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 28, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
On Johnson
more money higher pick as a corner is the only reason I’d say loser, but yes he looked good for a saftey.
Other winner Brandon Taylor (seton you were right this guy can play) and Bethel from Presbyterian.
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Yea Taylor is a stud. He is my #4 safety in this class behind Barron, Martin, and Smith in that order
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 28, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
Wish Martin would have ran
Wanted to see him come out and prove he can center field.
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Smith
I really like Harrison Smith… What’s the round projection on him?
2-3 currently
I have seen any where from low second to low third. he will probably climb a little with showing he can move because I didn’t see it at first watching on his tape. Then again not as knowledgeable on correct technique for DBs.
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Chaz Powell
Id really like to see a 7th round pick or post draft signing of Chaz Powell. Heres why… He is 6’1, likes contact and has some serious athletic talent. His football IQ is thru the roof. He was signed to PSU as a DB and due to injuries and his athleticism they made him a WR year 1 and 2. In that time he had some huge returns and plays. Then 1/2 way thru Junior year they flip him to DB and he starts 18 straight games and played very well. He is an excellent Special teams guy and has a ton of promise on Defense. Give him 2 years of special teams play while learning and I think you have a steal.
Whoah whoah whoah
I agree w/ a fair amount of that (He was our 3rd best CB this year, and he was pretty dece), but outside of blowing his load vs ISU, he wasn’t a great return man. Solid, but not great.
Basically, I’m nit-picky. Best life skill ever.
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Feb 28, 2012 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
So, draft robinson in the 2nd now?
It’d be a tough call, though I’d say the young CB’s don’t have his potential
at the same time, w/all the young kids back there, is spending a 2nd on him worth it? Or wait till’ the fourth and try a guy like Janzen Jackson at safety
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Feb 28, 2012 5:39 PM EST reply actions
Janzen Jackson has character issues through the roof
got kick out of Tennessee was supposed to be the next Berry. Doubt we touch him
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
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No and No
Janzen Jackson has some very serious character concerns and the Steelers don’t need to draft a CB in the 2nd. Some one might get him in the second but not the Steelers.
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Oh yeah, he was a dick head at UT
But at McNeese State he “supposedly” got things together, ala how Jenkins “supposedly” has. (Air quotes intended)
but, it appears I misread his combine times for another. Yeah, maybe that was a bad idea. Although Now taking a character concern waiver on a guy in the sixth, seventh round, that wouldn’t kill me. Cut him if he’s still a cancer.
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Feb 28, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
NFL Network Coverage
Happened to catch a few minutes of the Combine coverage this afternoon, and caught this hilarious exchange between Eisen, Mayock, and Sanders. All three guys were losing it after Mayock’s comment at the end.
Eisen: (Referring to a player getting ready to run the 40) He is from Wayne State University, we’ve seen a few players from that school recently.
Sanders: Where is Wayne State?
Eisen: The Detroit area.
Sanders: What is their nickname?
Mayock: The Blue Hoes.
They get really funny at the end of long events like this
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
"It would be tough for me to care less about their opinion, to be honest with you." Mike Tomlin
I think you have to
or else you’d go crazy
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 28, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
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