Terrell Suggs is such an ungrateful person
by rhino-mike on Feb 5, 2012 8:45 PM EST
Email
Print
Imagine this, he was very thankful to Ray Lewis and Ed Reed, but not a single word for Bruce Arians or Big Ben, what an ungrateful person. Obviously, without one of two great games he had against us and our "great" plan, he would not have won that award.
So, if you needed another reason to dislike Bruce think of this one: Ratbirds will have 3 DPOY in their team playing at same time. Thanks Bruce, you will be missed here.
63 comments
|
Add comment
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
He shouldn’t have won the award anyways.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
Not after his disappearing act late in the season
Allen should have won it hands down.
Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever
-Napoleon Bonaparte
There’s a lot of stuff we wouldn’t have to clean up if the city provided basic human rights, like a Port-A-Potty.
-OWS Protester
Cornell University Class of 2014
by LV Steelers Fan on Feb 5, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
I always look at these awards as whose performance on the year was more important to their team? Take away Allen’s 22 sacks, and they are still a crap team. Take away Suggs 14 sacks and 7FF, we probably finish 10-6 instead of 12-4.
Harrison led the league in FF when he won it just like Suggs did and I think that stat plays a HUGE part in the voting.
And just for the record since Steeler fans don’t think Suggs was deserving, we don’t think Troy was deserving last year.
"Picture Me Rollin"
I called him the DPOY a couple months back, and I agree he deserved it.
I agree with your rationale, Allen had a great year sure but how big an impact was he really? A lot of sacks but not as many turnovers, big plays, clutch plays etc as Terrell Suggs. Suggs was the best defensive player on one of the better defenses in the league, therefore his impact had a much bigger influence on the rest of his team.
Its almost the same rationale as to why Harrison won it over Demarcus Ware a few seasons back. Harrison was far more clutch, and made bigger plays rather than just getting a lot of sacks.
Formerly known as Steeler_
BTSC's token Kiwi fan. That means I'm a New Zealander. Yes, that small country next to Australia....no we are not part of Australia
by Michael Hewitt on Feb 6, 2012 1:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Have to agree with you here MaLoR...
…Suggs impact on the Ravens success this year far exceeds Allen’s impact.
Oh god, I agreed with MaLoR…oh wait, its 2012, so the world IS coming to an end!
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
Appreciate it. Glad to see Suggs finally get honored, because he went through some tough shit a few years ago and got to this point.
Many always thought he was overrated after he signed a $63 million and had a rough year with weight issues, but us Ravens fans always knew he was the best OLB in this division : )
"Picture Me Rollin"
Suggs isn’t overrated, the guy is a beast. I personally don’t like him, but then again I don’t personally like James Harrison. That doesn’t impact my opinion that he is a great player and a game changer. Same goes for Suggs.
I’ll admit that I do respect him a bit more for that.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
So he's growin on you now?
As long as he doesn’t make BB look for recievers up in the sky he’s OK?
I’ll bet he’s REALLY ok if he makes Tom Brady look skyward.
LOL
Formerly 88Keys
but us Ravens fans always knew he was the best OLB in this division
The man wouldn’t even start on our team.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
okay… i admit, he’d be able to rotate snaps. he’s not benching woodley or harrison tho, both of which are better vs run. suggs > woodley vs pass but = harrison imo
Harrison had a better year when he won the DPOY, because he actually had a pivotal role in the super bowl
you claimed Suggs to be the best OLB in the division, but Harrison truly is. Harrison has been 4 time first-team all pro, and Suggs just got his first first-team all pro this year
And I stick by that. Right now, I feel that Suggs is better than Harrison and it is for numerous reasons such as age, injury concerns, etc. Not a knock on Harrison at all.
And you said
Harrison had a better year when he won the DPOY
As in I was trying to argue differently, which I never did.
"Picture Me Rollin"
Thats kinda of crap
Its not the Most Relevant Defensive Player of the year award.
And for the record when your second in the league in INTs and have 30 more tackles then Ed Reed and Clay Mathews, I say it was warranted.
Huge fan of the Steelers. (that includes "Steelers West")
"If I could start my life over again, I would be a professional football player and you better damn well believe a Pittsburgh Steeler!"- Jack Lambert
Troy had a great year, but most Ravens fans were upset because we saw Ed Reed lead the league in ints while only playing in 10 games. Seemed like a very impressive accomplishment that didn’t warrant much credit in the DPOY voting.
"Picture Me Rollin"
I think the only playing in 10 games played a part in it
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Feb 6, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
I am not saying he didnt deserved
My pont is he got because we play poor, BA didnt made any adjustments on Suggs on those two games, and now thanks to that, Suggs got the DPOY, good for him. He had very good games against us, the best games this year for him.
"Everytime NE Patriots lose, Football wins", myself
He had 3 sacks and a FF in the first game, but no sacks in the 2nd game (although that interception was a thing of beauty.0
"Picture Me Rollin"
Meaning he should thank Scotts awful play
The DPOY shouldn’t get shut down by Max Starks
Huge fan of the Steelers. (that includes "Steelers West")
"If I could start my life over again, I would be a professional football player and you better damn well believe a Pittsburgh Steeler!"- Jack Lambert
you mean the one that was thrown right at him and a six-year-old should catch?
"We have met the enemy and he is us" - Pogo (1970)
No I meant he one where hours of film study and recognizing the exact play that Ben was going to run. If you heard the interviews from both Pagano and Suggs after that game (which I am sure you did not) Suggs was supposed to all out blitz on that play, but check out of it when he realized when play was coming.
That is what DPOY do.
"Picture Me Rollin"
I didn't say he didn't read the play correctly...
everyone who watches even a little of the Steelers (under BA’s leadership of the offense) can read that play correctly. However, it was thrown directly at him and he was in the right place at the right time.
"We have met the enemy and he is us" - Pogo (1970)
I meant he one where hours of film study…
More like minutes or maybe even just a memo posted saying hey if the Steelers are line up like this and Ben doesn’t attempt to drop back its a screen.
Huge fan of the Steelers. (that includes "Steelers West")
"If I could start my life over again, I would be a professional football player and you better damn well believe a Pittsburgh Steeler!"- Jack Lambert
malor
who was allens supporting cast as compared to suggs? not saying suggs isn`t a good olb but he was invisible at the end of season. as far as what you or anybody else who drinks purple kool aid thinks about troy nobody else cares. reed and troy play 2 different positions. while reed sits back as a ball hawk troy had ints played the run tough and caused mayhem at the line of scrimmage. 43 won games by int`s qb sacks and strip sacking a certain qb in a big game. troy pulled off game sealing plays, not just stat padding plays. as far as raven fans knowing you have the best olb i`m cool with that because i`d rather have harrison any day.
The only player teams had to worry about on the Vikings D was Allen, and they still couldn’t stop him
who was allens supporting cast as compared to suggs?
Allen is a beast, no question about that. But I look at it as who did Suggs have to out perform on a Ravens defense full of stars.
It is one thing to be the best player on a shitty defense, but it is another thing to be the best player on a defense that has some HOF guys playing on all 3 levels.
And honestly, I don’t give a shit about Troy’s award, that was the past. He is an insane player, never heard me say otherwise.
"Picture Me Rollin"
dpoy
and just for the record……… we don`t think troy deserved it last year
I wouldn’t go that far, but I do think a case could be made for Ed Reed over Troy from last year than you can Allen over Suggs of this year.
I look at how their impact affects winning, and clearly for you guys when Troy plays, you win alot. When he doesn’t play…..well your records shows you are a mediocre team. Same case with Suggs, we might have missed out on the playoffs all together if not for a few of his performances this year.
"Picture Me Rollin"
I
look at how their impact affects winning
The award isn’t “what defensive player helped you win more games”
the award is “defensive player of the year”
Sorry that is confusing to you, but knowing that you are still sorting out your legal troubles and restraining orders filed against you, I won’t hold it against you.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
Agreed
Suggs deserved it this year, no arguments. Although I think if it went through the playoffs, maybe it becomes Justin Smith?
"My mentality is singular in that I want to be world champs each and every year, so that's what we work toward. I have a tough time acknowledging levels of success short of that. That's just how I'm wired." - Mike Tomlin
by MDSTEELERSFAN on Feb 7, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
He definitely should have
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
Follow me on Twitter
by John Stephens on Feb 6, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
Why? He disappeared for so much of the year that it was not even funny. Hell, 9 of his sacks and 5 of his forced fumbles came in three games, and that should definitely come into consideration. I’m sorry, but with 22 sacks, 4 FF, and 66 tackles, Jared Allen should have won it hands down.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
Suggs is more rounded
Suggs is better against the run and drops into coverage a lot more. Jared Allen really only rushes the passer well and helps out some in run support.
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
Follow me on Twitter
by John Stephens on Feb 6, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Of course Suggs drops in to coverage more, he’s a LB, not a DE. I did see Allen cover a rb once and made a kick ass int. But yeah, he’s a De in a 4-3
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
I know what position he plays
But that’s the nature of the award. The more you do, the more likely you are to win.
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
Follow me on Twitter
by John Stephens on Feb 6, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
Oh…oops. Well sor-ree Mr knowitall.
Just kidding. Don’t start calling me names, it hurts my feelings.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
I didn’t start that shit. That was Neal.
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
Follow me on Twitter
by John Stephens on Feb 7, 2012 8:16 AM EST up reply actions
The AP would have voted Allen if they thought he should have won it “hands down.”
"Picture Me Rollin"
Then again
Weren’t you saying the AP was wrong for voting Troy last year and not Ngata
"It’s easy to lie with statistics, but it’s easier to lie without them." -Fred Mosteller
Follow me on Twitter
by John Stephens on Feb 7, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Well
The Steelers have 2 DPOY and Ben has 3 SB appearance and 2 rings. Yup have to thank Bruce about helping T-Sizzle with being light of hand twice. I think Ben feels Siz may just be renting his butt and not own it because Big Big Owns the rings Siz wanted.
I am good with that. :)
He has a new nickname here in Baltimore: T-Fizzle
I can resist everything but temptation.....
by the duchess of steel on Feb 6, 2012 9:11 AM EST reply actions
Suggs expression.
The complete shock and stunned look on Suggs face when Cundiff choked was classic. Won’t forget. As for Suggs winning DPOY I got no problem with it. He had a terrific year.
Proud fan of Pittsburgh's professional sports teams and the Pirates too.
I know that look gave me a really sick feeling.
Formerly 88Keys
While I hate him
And he stanks, I will allow it. I have no real beef with his selection. Aldon Smith of the 49ers was a meast but you have to know he was inserted on a lot of plays and wasn’t the starter. Basically this year they used him for only one thing: Sacks. They designed plays completely around gettin him to sack somebody.
As was noted it’s not Defensive MVP it’s DPOY so Suggs seems like the right call to me. It’s a shame Harrison had a bad year with back problems and the broken eye socket (on a H2H colllision not caused by 92 mind you). And Woodley’s Hammy sucked all year.
Them two healthy I think James woulda had another trophy this year.
Something to say? Choose one of these options to log in.
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
"Thoughtful discussion with a sense of history."
Art Rooney Jr.
"Level-headed thinking." Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Related FanPosts on Behind the Steel Curtain
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recommended FanPosts
Recent FanPosts
SBNation.com Recent Stories
In Association With
Shutdown Corner - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
- Former high-school star Brian Banks does serious time on trumped-up charge, now hopes for an NFL shot
- Former ‘idiot kicker’ Mike Vanderjagt in trouble after accosting junior-high heckler
- Adrian Peterson blows teammates away in footraces; appears to be on the mend
- UPDATE: Charlie Sheen didn’t buy Lawrence Taylor’s Super Bowl ring
- Alex Smith gets blown up by Jon Beason over Cam Newton comments
