Giants Win Super Bowl XLVI 21-17 Over New England Patriots
by Neal Coolong on Feb 5, 2012 10:25 PM EST
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To put the Giants' 21-17 win in Super Bowl XLVI over New England as something epic is misguided. But they still won it. It was their fourth championship, and incidentally, New England's fourth Super Bowl loss.
An uneven and bizarre season came to a close in a way more fitting with the past than with the future. In the supposed Year of the Quarterback (thank you, ESPN), neither quarterback played particularly well through four quarters, and it was lesser heralded guys who won it for New York, and lost it for New England.
Mario Manningham looked lazy in trying to get his feet down on what should have been a reception in the third quarter. In the fourth, he made the best Super Bowl catch since Santonio at the back pylon in Super Bowl XLIII, helping out eventual game MVP Eli Manning.
Conversely, Wes Welker, who led the league in catches this year, and Aaron Hernandez, who played very well in the more-or-less absence of TE Rob Gronkowski, dropped good passes from Patriots QB Tom Brady on their series - not to mention former Super Bowl MVP Deion Branch.
Neither offense looked particularly sharp, and perhaps that's an issue of coaching. The Giants managed to win the game despite examples of poor clock management. No coaching flub was bigger, though, than the obvious lack of foresight that the Patriots would allow the Giants to score from six yards out. Bradshaw ran to about the one-foot line before realizing no one was going to tackle him, and it appeared he was too far along to stop and fall down at the one, which would have allowed the Giants to force the Patriots to use their final timeout.
Instead, Bradshaw scored, giving the Patriots a timeout and 57 seconds to try to make something happen.
They nearly did, too.
Brady heaved a prayer from midfield on a play in which Gronkowski was trailing in an effort to scoop up any deflections. The deflection came, and it appeared Gronkowski could have gotten to the ball.
Maybe that's what high ankle sprains do to your quickness. Or your offense. The Patriots struggled outside dominating drives at the end of the first half and the start of the second. They put two touchdowns on the board in that time, but only three points otherwise.
The biggest missed opportunity the Patriots had was in the fourth quarter, holding onto a 17-12 lead. Brady was working the ball down the field, but poor throws forced a punt that gave Manning the ball back with time to score.
That's Eli Manning, the new clutch QB of the NFL.
He took his team down for the eventual game-winning touchdown.
There's no longer an issue between the Giants and the Patriots dating back from 2007. Manning has established himself as today's 4th quarter quarterback.
Brady's got no bones on that.
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Just posted this over at BB...
with the caption: THIS, is when its appropriate for a Gatorade Shower…better luck next year.
http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2012/2/5/2774210/giants-repeat-super-bowl-win-over-patriots-again
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
Clear gatorade
Great year for prop bets.
Clear Gatorade, Safety first score, No Peyton Manning shots, Robert Kraft a million times.
Not the most expected outcomes, I’m bettin a lot of people got nice paydays.
money in the bank
Thank you Giants
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by stillergorillar on Feb 5, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
+1
There was obviously some kind of Peyton embargo either placed by the network or by Peyton himself (through threats of a hissy fit or simply hiding somewhere the cameras could see him, I vote the latter), they had no one else to show so it was nothing but Mr. Kraft.
by Neal Coolong on Feb 5, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
No Peyton was appropriate.
The networks and the news agencies all wanted it to be about Peyton. Lame. There’s a story there, but it ran its course on day one of the two weeks leading up to the Super Bowl.
And ESPN’s talking head door that asked Eli what it was like yadda yadda yadda in the House Peyton Built yadda yadda got pretty well shut up by Eli. Classy response by Eli, but man, were his gears churning upstairs or what? How unfair to ask that question? Dumb@#$.
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by stillergorillar on Feb 6, 2012 7:22 AM EST up reply actions
Weird
Vegas is paying out for purple gatorade and I was certain it looked purple last night.
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by John Stephens on Feb 6, 2012 8:53 AM EST up reply actions
It was...
…this picture is an older one, but the quickest one I could find for my purposes.
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Ah
That makes sense
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by John Stephens on Feb 6, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions
This just made the 2011 season, a sweet one to savor
Sure the Steelers lost in the 1st round of the playoffs. But to see punk azz Brady lose for the 2nd time in the SB to the Giants, to get shown how a REAL clutch QB plasy like, well, like the commercial says, that was PRICELESS. Attaboy ELI!
Stay thirsty my friends.
by SteelerMessican on Feb 5, 2012 10:33 PM EST reply actions
Yeah....ahem....
I love it when other teams win Super Bowls. That definitely makes me happy.
by Neal Coolong on Feb 5, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
Anybody but the Ravens, and the Patsies...
…Cowboys n Redskins, though the 49’ers are too close to our Six for comfort…oh, and it would have been miserable if the Packers had repeated, so count them in too…now, who did I leave out?
United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
None of them are any different than Cincinnati or Houston or Tampa Bay or…that one franchise in Miami that doesn’t matter at all.
They aren’t the Steelers. Therefore, if they won, Pittsburgh didn’t.
by Neal Coolong on Feb 5, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
Any true Steeler fan thoroughly enjoys Brady misery.
Stay thirsty my friends.
by SteelerMessican on Feb 5, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
I hate em and he stanks!
And the Giants are practically family Neal. Maras and Rooneys are related. Hell Art Rooney was like their grampappy so it’s kinda like an extension of our team.
I was rooting for the Giants
Doesn’t mean I’m not angry they put up that kind of a game and get to be champs.
by Neal Coolong on Feb 5, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Any true fan of any team can find some entertainment in a certain team losing, but knows when the rubber meets the road, if they’re watching two other teams in the championship, no real satisfaction can be had.
by Neal Coolong on Feb 5, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Respectfully disagree.
Goals of every season:
1. Steelers win Super Bowl.
2. See Brady and the Pats suffer
Pass the HATORADE!
Stay thirsty my friends.
by SteelerMessican on Feb 5, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
Disagree with that wholeheartedly. My goal every season is for the Steelers to win it all. If not, I don’t care, although I may have slight rooting interest in others, in the grand scheme, it doesn’t matter
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
you obviously need more HATE in your life.
Enjoying the suffering of others is a good thing.
Stay thirsty my friends.
by SteelerMessican on Feb 5, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
:-D
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by LV Steelers Fan on Feb 5, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
LOL I can’t do it, just because I’ve encountered Browns fans, and feeling that way would make me feel like I’m down on their level.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
But our hate is crystalline - there is a hope to our hate
theirs is of defeat and misery whereas ours is of opulent blackness, seeing smug half-talents and douchebags get theirs while keeping our eyes to the horizon, for next year will be mighty
I pledge allegiance to the Terrible Towel and the only team in America, and to the franchise for which it stands, one nation under Rooney, indivisible, with the ability to crush you all.
"He was popping off down there the first time they were about to score. So you run your mouth, expect to get something. Everything's between the lines, so he got what he had coming. He was running his mouth and getting in the way of the train, and the train wasn't coming off the track."
-James Harrison on Kyle Orton
I love how you make the hate sound noble
And it should be because we are righteous and our enemies are depraved scumbags.
The suffering of brady. Brady knowing he’s owned by someone. It’s a tough pill for tom to swallow. HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA YEAH!
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
Franco Harris:
"If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time."
Yes, my Sith Aprentice, you understand the beauty of hate
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"He was popping off down there the first time they were about to score. So you run your mouth, expect to get something. Everything's between the lines, so he got what he had coming. He was running his mouth and getting in the way of the train, and the train wasn't coming off the track."
-James Harrison on Kyle Orton
by TVsCHACHI on Feb 6, 2012 5:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
May I propose an amendment?
1. Beat the Ravens
2. Win the Superbowl
3. Pats haven’t won a championship in seven years, so screw ’em
1st Neal... accurate summary of the game....
neither team played spot on to out shine the other… Surprisingly, was not the Brady down in flames joy at games end I expected I would feel… Glad of the result, just not so much how the game was called by both OC’s…I thought the giants red zone play calling was particularly unimaginative, and was equally surprised that the Pats didnt try to mix it up a bit more, rather using just Welker and Hernandez almost exclusively, without any attempt really to run the ball…. Eli certainly does deserve his credit for his role in 1st getting his team to the superbowl, and then finsihing… one of the best personal year long performances, 7 times I think bringing his team back from deficts…
All in all….. congrats Tom Conklin, you did a fine job … FYI (Mr Mara) I think you need to look around a bit more….no fans in any sport are more supportive the Steeler fans….
by OR69faithfull on Feb 6, 2012 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
I understand where you're coming from, Neal...
and as frothing-at-the-mouth loyal and passionate I am about my Stillers that I am…
I still found great joy in Brady getting punked…again…in this fashion.
And I love that Baltimore never even got there. To have gotten there, Joe Flacco’ed would have earned a gold star in his coupon book he can redeem for “Elite Status.”
Oh, I did enjoy this Super bowl as much as was possible for the Steelers not being in it.
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Can't wait for Belicheck's mumbling post game comments...
…whenever he gets the guts to face the camera.
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To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.
Why would he EVER fear a camera????
After all, some of his best friends were cameras!
Funny how he hasn’t won any Super Bowls since he got caught.
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by Homer J. on Feb 5, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Belichick and Brady only won all those super bowls because they cheated. Period.
They wouldn’t have won all three without cheating.
And I hate that nobody in the mainstream sports media will bring this up.
grain of salt
well, you can’t be surprised. The damage to the league that would result of the media acknowledging it would be catastrophic
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
which is why the NFL Network commentators and NFL announcers never mention it.
It doesn’t explain ESPN or NBC Sports … except maybe that the networks are worried about their relationship with the NFL …
Ultimately, it’s annoying no matter the cause.
grain of salt
It doesn’t explain ESPN or NBC Sports … except maybe that the networks are worried about their relationship with the NFL …
Those two networks should care the most. The Monday Night and Sunday Night games and markets are ENORMOUS. We’re talking BILLION dollar contracts. Besides, when the rubber meets the road, what they did was and is illegal, and it’s a cheap way to get an advantage. It’s not the reason they won championships.
Personally, I’m ok with the fact they won championships in that era as long as they continue failing to win after they got caught.
by Neal Coolong on Feb 5, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not ok with those championships.
At least one, if not two, were directly responsible for keeping the Steelers from the big game in years they were good enough to win it all.
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by Fifty-Eight on Feb 6, 2012 2:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yea
but if we win it all then wouldn’t we be stuck with kordell for a long time? We would have never gotten Ben, kind of a blessing in disguise.
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Feb 6, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
ESPN and NBC pay $$$BILLIONS$$$ to broadcast the NFL
It doesn’t surprise me one bit that they decided to sweep that mess under the rug. If it had been reported on correctly, there was a chance they’d have nothing but a very expensive crap sandwich.
I truly believe
It’s not brought up anymore for the simple fact it is old news.
To keep mentioning it, even in passing would be classless.
by jharmon64 on Feb 5, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Disagree.
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After this season's disastrous gamble on Fatty Haynesworth and 85 (espanol) coupled with another egg laid on the biggest stage, I say its time to revoke Belichick's annual 'genius' card Tical
(and F*ck the Ravens)
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-James Harrison on Kyle Orton
by TVsCHACHI on Feb 6, 2012 3:21 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
this!
billy boy is not a genius psstt
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Feb 6, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
Even if he’s been striking out lately, he’s still a genius in my eyes. He turned a skinny quarterback that wasn’t even good enough to be number two on the depth chart his first couple years at MI and made him one of the best ever. He has turned Wes Welker in to the most productive wr, he made Vrabel an effective tight end. the list goes on. He may be too arrogant for his own good now, and it’s biting him in the ass, but you still can’t take away what he’s done. Last year and this years Pats teams were terrible if you used the eye test, somehow they won 27 games in the regular season.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
I think that if anyone benefitted from the taping other team’s practices, it was Belichick. I think Brady is a great QB, but Belichick’s elite coach status is derived largely from the years where he had an unfair advantage.
grain of salt
It’s more so derived from the fact that he has used other teams rejects to build a dynasty. He made Brady, the same way he made Cassell and fleeced a team out of draft picks. Look at Deion Branch after he left…did nothing. Then, he comes back, he’s productive again.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
I mentioned that as well
Pats are 0-2 and have looked decidedly un-genius in their two SBs since getting caught in Spygate.
by WolfpackSteelersFan on Feb 5, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
He has a league obligation to speak to the media after games
And to make his players available. Tuck got fined 25 large for blowing off the media during the week, Belichick’s gonna get hit up for six figures over this one.
by Neal Coolong on Feb 5, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
I'd disagree on the QB play....
Both put up pretty damn good numbers. The difference was the ELI was clutch in the 4th. He was well deserving of the MVP.
Stay thirsty my friends.
by SteelerMessican on Feb 5, 2012 10:37 PM EST reply actions
They put up numbers – Eli in the fourth – but they didn’t score points. They weren’t sharp all game, and history will bear out it was one of the weaker MVP performances in SB history
by Neal Coolong on Feb 5, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
ELI was clutch on that last drive.
Sure they had to settle for FGs a few times, but he didnt turn the ball over. I’d saw it was a pretty impressive performance. ESPN guys are already talkin HOF.
Stay thirsty my friends.
by SteelerMessican on Feb 5, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
Knee-jerk reaction. Sure, maybe he’ll go to the Hall, that’s fine, all I’m saying is he missed a few throws, held onto the ball too long, and didn’t score much. It wasn’t a great game.
Santonio in XLIII, that was a great game. Hell, I’d make just as strong an argument for Justin Tuck as MVP. Doesn’t mean he’s not deserving of it, I’m just saying it wasn’t a well-played game.
by Neal Coolong on Feb 5, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
Great game for the Giants
In my opinion they are a class organization who deserve to win this year. Great game and hopefully it solidifies 2004 as the best QB class ever.
by Michael Uhlhorn on Feb 5, 2012 10:43 PM EST reply actions
thanks to the Giants
for putting up big for me and handing me the win in my pick-em league.
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by stillergorillar on Feb 5, 2012 10:49 PM EST reply actions
Good game, but it doesn't hold a candle to '07
Fun fact: I picked 10 of the 11 playoff games correctly this season. Guess which one I missed…
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by LV Steelers Fan on Feb 5, 2012 10:57 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
No, I got the Steelers game wrong
Almost picked BAL over NE, and after watching the game I realized I should have picked that.
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by LV Steelers Fan on Feb 5, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
Just wanted to be sure! :-P
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by LV Steelers Fan on Feb 5, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
I misread the signs of the fantasy football gods
Thought it was the PERFECT revenge season for the Pats. Saw the Pats beating the Broncos and Ravens on their way to SB to face Giants. But should have realized that is was destiny for the Giants and ELI to end another PERFECT season.
Stay thirsty my friends.
by SteelerMessican on Feb 5, 2012 11:01 PM EST reply actions
Is it just me or is anyone else surprised that more teams don’t just let another team score when it gets that close to the end of the game and they might not have much time left to go down the field? There have been quite a few games where I have thought to myself that they should just let the other team score so they can at least get the ball back and try to win or tie.
Well, we did it in Super Bowl 43. ALthough noone will admit it.
Stay thirsty my friends.
by SteelerMessican on Feb 5, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
you can’t say someone “let them score” on a 50+ yard touchdown. Come on man
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
i'm just KEEEEDING
But Tomlin did say he was glad they scored quick. HMMMMMMMM
Stay thirsty my friends.
by SteelerMessican on Feb 5, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Well, if they have to score, it’s probably better that it’s quick.
That game got out of hand really fast…Brick killed a guy!
by Neal Coolong on Feb 5, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
lol
As if Larry Fitzgerald needs our help to score
by Neal Coolong on Feb 5, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone else a bit upset that when we faced the Packers they played the game of their lives and both teams on the field tonight looked almost uninspired for long stretches?
We really picked the wrong time to lay a huge egg last season.
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by LV Steelers Fan on Feb 5, 2012 11:03 PM EST reply actions
Yep I am really mad
These two teams played like absolute shit and one of them gets to celebrate a Super Bowl win.
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 5, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
I'd disagree, this was a really good game.
Lots of clutch plays made tonight.
Stay thirsty my friends.
by SteelerMessican on Feb 5, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
except the drop by Welker,
Stay thirsty my friends.
by SteelerMessican on Feb 5, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
You're one of the best on here...but...
…I really don’t know what game you watched tonight.
by Neal Coolong on Feb 5, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
I just think saying it was the worst, i didnt get that.
Sure neither team played like Young’s 49ers in 1994, but the game wasnt that bad. Giants were deserving.
Stay thirsty my friends.
by SteelerMessican on Feb 5, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, they deserved to win the game, I just don’t think either team played very well. That’s all I’m saying. There were times (Brady Qs 2 and 3, Eli Qs 1 and 4) when they were really good, but they left a lot out there too.
by Neal Coolong on Feb 5, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sure several teams said the same about us in 2005.
Reality is, both teams did what they had to do to get there, had two weeks to prepare and to sit and rust…and then came out on the biggest stage and semi-stunk at times.
But they were our 2011 representatives. Like we were in 2005, we deserved to be there..but played so-so.
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And the one by Branch
And the fumbles by Bradshaw and Nicks. And Boothe’s holding penalties.
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by LV Steelers Fan on Feb 5, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
Cripes, Bradshaw was a freakin DOG tonight. Giants fumbled, what, four times, whether there was 11 or 12 guys on the field?
by Neal Coolong on Feb 5, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
No it was not
It was awful
Fumbles, drops, wasted TO’s, dumb penalties, bad throws, bad tackling, bad referreing. Overall, it was just an absoultuetly awful football game that you would expect to see if you were watching the Browns play the Dolphins
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 5, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
This game was MUCH better than Super Bowl 40.
Stay thirsty my friends.
by SteelerMessican on Feb 5, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
but still awful
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 5, 2012 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
so that makes it good? It’s like asking “would you rather eat shit, or an open jar of mayonnaise that’s been sitting in the hot sun for the entire summer”
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
Easy, ace...
let’s dial down the profanity
by Neal Coolong on Feb 5, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
There is no call in mentioning...
Mayo… nnaise.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 6, 2012 8:20 AM EST up reply actions
Some positives
ELI completing 75% of his passes
ELI absolutely CLUTCH on that last drive.
Some CLutch catches by Nicks and Manningham
Brady put up good stats and threw like 16 comp. in a row at one point.
Killer effort by Giants DLine
Stay thirsty my friends.
by SteelerMessican on Feb 5, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
That dude’s the balls…but as for Brady, let’s keep in mind he took an intentional grounding in the end zone on his team’s first play, threw three into the defensive line and threw a pick. Very true, there was a time he was dialed in, but there were lots of times he wasn’t.
by Neal Coolong on Feb 5, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
You have no idea....
Anyone else a bit upset that when we faced the Packers they played the game of their lives and both teams on the field tonight looked almost uninspired for long stretches?
by Neal Coolong on Feb 5, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
Hahahahaha
Fuck the Patriots.
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by Riddlah. on Feb 5, 2012 11:04 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Language lap…lets keep it somewhat within reason, por favor
by Neal Coolong on Feb 5, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
lol. Good thing you didn't see my post on the game thread
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 5, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, I did
I let that one pass without comment (support, even) due to the hilarity of it. We gotta let that one speak for the rest though.
by Neal Coolong on Feb 5, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
lol. It was a spur of the moment type thing that had to be said
I usually try and avoid profanity but it was so necessary and I had been waiting to say it for months
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 5, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
Like you threw Tebow and Flacco into it…my wife asked me what was so funny, I told her I couldn’t explain properly.
by Neal Coolong on Feb 5, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
Glad I could make you laugh
I had to make sure I included everyone that prevented us from a Super Bowl
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 5, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
You missed someone
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by LV Steelers Fan on Feb 5, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I am not going to attack any Steelers people
and personally I don’t think you can blame Arians for injuries to every major offensive player except Mike Wallace
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 5, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
why is it ok now? Haven’t we seen enough? It seems like 90% of the comments on this site are based in Arians bashing. When is enough enough? And now that he’s gone, isn’t time to freaking move on? Obviously my Steeler loyalty prevents me from thinking like this, but I almost want the offense next season to be horrible, just so I can get the reactions of all the experts on this site that talk all the crap about Arians.
“it’s ok to attack ba now”? When wasn’t it? If there was a time it wasn’t ok, I wasn’t around for that.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
wow
um lets just say in no way shape form nor fashion is there a hint of me that wants the offense next season to be worse to just see a reaction out of people on this site…..
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Feb 6, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
No its not. Hes gone.
We get it, you got what you wanted. Let it go.
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by Michael Hewitt on Feb 5, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
C'mon guys, lighten up!
Besides, I had to wait about 3 years longer than I wanted to for this to happen. Real nice photo of BA though. I’ll put this one on my dart board.
He was a great offensive coach
Just a horrible play caller. I would still love him as a Receivers/Quarterbacks coach, just would take away playcalling privileges from him
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by Michael Hewitt on Feb 6, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
How can you be a great offensive coach,
And not be able to call the right play in a given situation? You lost me there.
Note the word coach and not coordinator.
As a positional coach, I think he’s outstanding as a compliment to an offensive system
I think he is streaky and mainly shitty as a playcaller
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by Michael Hewitt on Feb 6, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
Yep
I couldn’t agree more. When he caught fire…look out.
by pistil_stamen on Feb 6, 2012 1:44 AM EST up reply actions
Not True
His (Mike Wallace) hands were evidently stricken with some sort of fungal malady for the last 4-5 games of the season. I even saw him closely examining them during the Denver game.
by pistil_stamen on Feb 6, 2012 1:43 AM EST up reply actions
It's a condition known as Sweed's palsy.....
…which is a full blown case of the Limas Phenomenon.
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by Homer J. on Feb 6, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We can't go a post without his name coming up, can we?
What I find funny is the sheer hatred I brought out by speaking kind of negatively about Todd Haley, yet, I’m fairly certain SteelerNation would vote in favor of crucifying Bruce Arians if it was up to them.
by Neal Coolong on Feb 5, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah…I would think that the shit would end when he’s no longer with the team. But, just like Gay after the second Ravens game, no matter what, people find a way to inject his name negatively any chance they get
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
The only subject I can say I flat-out do not understand SteelerNation’s opinion. I’ve disagreed with the majority, but I’ve always understood it. I don’t understand the hate for Arians.
Why am I bringing this up, Frank?!? Taser me, please
by Neal Coolong on Feb 5, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
Lol. Because you find it puzzling the way people attacked you over your (correct in my opinion) feelings about Haley. Their blind support for Haley was rivaled only by their blind hatred for Arians.
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I think it was more of “fans from other team think he’s a helluva guy so everything you said was factually incorrect despite that everything you said actually happened.”
I pushed them a bit over the edge, and that’s fine with me. I’d be happy to re-pay them their monthly subscription they pay to read my garbage, should they feel so inclined to request such a refund.
by Neal Coolong on Feb 5, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
Arians
Maybe I have missed the big hatred that you are referring to. I don’t hate Arians, but I do think it was time to move on. I have felt that the defense of Arians has been at times as over the top as anything.
I agree with you on Haley. I think that he could be a disaster on par with Gilbride coaching Kordell Stewart.
by WolfpackSteelersFan on Feb 5, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
I agreed with your Haley bashings as well
I could not believe the reaction that post got
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 5, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
You were SPOT on about Haley.
Stay thirsty my friends.
by SteelerMessican on Feb 6, 2012 6:31 AM EST up reply actions
Rolling my eyes
Please Neal. It wasn’t you ‘pushing them a bit over the edge’. Its that it was your relentless bashing of the guy that made people sick. We all had concerns with the guy, thats understood. But you were attached the man at every oppurtunity. Like I said before, you were unreasonable. It wasn’t a I don’t like the guy and I think he isn’t a good fit. It was more of a ‘you guys are crazy for even having hopes that he could work out’. Your hatred for Haley was more unfounded than most people’s hatred for Arians. You refused to anything positive about him when clearly he has positive traits. You only focused on the negative, which is what I call unreasonable. Everyone knew the negative but you were too blind in your hatred to understand that. There were some people that thought it was interesting that the other fans liked the guy. And I didn’t see anyone on from this site say that anything that actually happened, didn’t happened. Either way its clear you still fail to see how you amassed a personal crusade against the guy before he even finished an interview. Would I give Todd Haley a chance? Sure, if the Steelers hired him. Do I think he has some negatives that we should be conerned about? Of course. But you have to recognized the positives also.
Either way I like your writing. I like what you contribute to this site. And I don’t think ill of you at all. I don’t take your current comments personally at all, just when I read them it just wreaks of a person who ’doesn’t get it’.
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Feb 6, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Amen.
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by John Stephens on Feb 6, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
The F word should be allowed for this occasion.
Stay thirsty my friends.
by SteelerMessican on Feb 5, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
YEAH BABY!!!!
Anytime the Pats lose I am happy :)
"He had no teeth, and he was slobbering all over himself. I'm thinking, 'You can have your money back, just get me out of here. Let me go be an accountant." I can't tell you how badly I wanted out of there."
- Denver rookie QB John Elway, on Jack Lambert, after Lambert and the Steelers knocked Elway out of his first game as a pro (1983).
I found this funny for some reason
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
by FrankWyt on Feb 5, 2012 11:28 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
freakin AWESOME.
Stay thirsty my friends.
by SteelerMessican on Feb 5, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
That is so wrong
The kid isn’t even wearing a shirt!
by Neal Coolong on Feb 5, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
I LOVE third world success kid!
Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever
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There’s a lot of stuff we wouldn’t have to clean up if the city provided basic human rights, like a Port-A-Potty.
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by LV Steelers Fan on Feb 5, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever
-Napoleon Bonaparte
There’s a lot of stuff we wouldn’t have to clean up if the city provided basic human rights, like a Port-A-Potty.
-OWS Protester
Cornell University Class of 2014
by LV Steelers Fan on Feb 5, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
Ok, that’s way worse than Frank’s caption.
by Neal Coolong on Feb 5, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't make that one
It’s one of the most popular versions of the meme.
Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever
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by LV Steelers Fan on Feb 5, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
It was just weird, wasn't it?
Two games in a row I expected Brady to just flip the switch and start beating fools down, he couldn’t sustain it at all.
It started slow, it ended faster and the middle ground was even less consistent.
by Neal Coolong on Feb 5, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
Brady
He just hasn’t had IT since losing his camera advantage.
by WolfpackSteelersFan on Feb 5, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
That game was a bit dull but still had some big-play moments.
FWP’s long TD run and Hines Ward’s TD (front page of Sports Illustrated). But this SB was excruciating in its dullness.
SB40 did have two big plays, so did this game. They both sucked over all. That big run by Parker was a defensive melt down by Sea, and the same could be said for the WR to WR play. How many times did the Steelers run a play like that from that part of the field that season?
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
Kinda feel bad for him
But I think he’ll get in eventually. He is in part paying for his years with Philly. Also like you said he just wasn’t the best at his position at any point in his career. He was one of the best but didn’t create a particular niche where you can say he contributed to the differently in this area. He was outstanding at what he did so he’ll get in, he’ll just have to wait, maybe next year with the bus?
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Feb 6, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
My pick for SB winning team
1. Steelers
2. Any of the 30 other teams besides the Patriots
Baltimore can go to hell too.
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
they are in baltimore
so they are already there. lol
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Feb 6, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
Well played.
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
Glad to see the Giants win
Tom Brady’s postseason struggles continue since January of 2005. From 2001-2004, it was Brady who was cool under pressure and making the clutch plays, all under the age of 26. Since then, not so much.
It is odd to see a future HOF QB struggle in the postseason in his prime and beyond when he played so well as a young player. Troubling.
Big win for the Giants, hard to believe they lost to Washington at home before getting on a roll. For the Pats, they needed this win for their legacy, and once again, failed to deliver.
I'm not troubled by it for one second. Rather enjoying it.
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Alright was it just me
or did every close call/no-call go in the Patsies’ favor? I counted at least 4 or 5 close calls that all went for NE. A hold against NY followed by a no-call on PI when the defender had his arm around the WRs waste. Another no call on PI when the NE player grabbed the NY WR’s shoulder. I just don’t recall any balance in the close calls.
by WolfpackSteelersFan on Feb 5, 2012 11:59 PM EST reply actions
That PI no call was an absolute joke
I wasn’t sure about the hold either but I could at least see how you could said that the giants offensive linement turned him inside.
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Feb 6, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Wasn't much of a game by the Pawts
Escept for the two scoring drives on both sides of the half, frankly the Pawts looked about as sloppy as I’ve seen them in the Age of The Hoodie.
Evidently
the simulated 31 minute halftime courtesy of “The Genius” that had everyone all gaga didn’t provide the edge they needed. Too bad.
by pistil_stamen on Feb 6, 2012 1:49 AM EST up reply actions
This was an odd Superbowl
Never seen so many dropped balls. Tom Brady throwing the ball away on his first play, and he knew he did it too.
Offenses looked hot and then went stone cold in the middle of drives.
Have to say, Eli did deserve his MVP title, although I think Pierre-Paul was the most influential player on the field. He or Justin Tuck
Yay! Tom Brady doesnt have as many rings as Terry Bradshaw
Boo! Eli Manning has as many rings as Ben Roethlisberger
The difficulty of a Steeler fan this season continues…
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Where is that dumbass Pats fan trolling us after the Tebow game.
“Rabble rabble the Pats/Saints/Packers will win because offense wins championships and this isn’t the same league anymore rabble rabble”
Go fuck yourself. Your 31st ranked defense just blew it after your juggernaut offense managed 17 points. Shut up, you’re a moron.
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Cheaters never win!!!
I love that man
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by Michael Hewitt on Feb 6, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
Then something along the lines of
“0-2 since spygate”
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by Michael Hewitt on Feb 6, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
Something to the tune of:
waaaaahh wahhhh waaaaaaah waaaaahhh Belichick waaaa waahhh Bruschi waaahhh waaaahhhhh Tyree waaaahhh wahhhh.
by pistil_stamen on Feb 6, 2012 1:51 AM EST up reply actions
although they are kind of funny, he is just saying what everyone else is thinking.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
I thought they were hilarious
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by Michael Hewitt on Feb 6, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
We’ve played pretty well with a target lately
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by Michael Hewitt on Feb 6, 2012 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
Not this season. I feel like our record was inflated playing a bunch of bad teams.
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We just ran out of gas this season. Heroic effort but just too banged up. I was sadly relieved when we lost, it was just such an emotional roller coaster of a year
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by Michael Hewitt on Feb 6, 2012 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
i was too, but there was no point in this season where I thought “this is a Super Bowl contender” Last year, I had some doubts, but also a few times when I thought they could do it. This year…I was just happy to get some wins. The injuries piled up at the end, but they still didn’t play that well most of the year.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
When we bet the Patriots, I really thought we looked like a team that could win it all. Sadly, injuries derailed us from there, and it really started with Lamarr Woodley going down in that very game.
Aside from blowing out Cincy, it was mostly downhill after that Pats game.
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by Michael Hewitt on Feb 6, 2012 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
We're the Steelers
the target is always on our back, can’t add any more
I love the Steelers.
by tannofsteel84 on Feb 6, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
Even Pats Pulpit
is calling the legacies of Brady and Belichick tainted. Strong words, but if that duo fails to win another world title, tough to ignore.
Hard to argue when they have 3 SBs
then Spygate, followed by 2 SB chokes.
by WolfpackSteelersFan on Feb 6, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
+1
And thats two eggs Tom Brady and his offense have laid in the last two Superbowls
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by Michael Hewitt on Feb 6, 2012 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
Those first 3 SB wins
They kept it just close enough that, if true, the Spygate info gathered on opposing defenses would come in handy for that last game winning drive.
And the fact is that the Pats had pretty solid defenses during those years to keep them in games. Advance Football Stats did a study a few years ago that showed that the Pats won more games than was statistically expected during those years, which lent credence to the idea that the videotaping did give them an unusual advantage.
by WolfpackSteelersFan on Feb 6, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
Trust me, I agree
No doubt in my mind they did it, the question I still have is did they screw us over in 2004
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by Michael Hewitt on Feb 6, 2012 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
2004
I kind of doubt if they needed it in that game. Ben finally played like a rookie, and their system wouldn’t have worked against offenses, just defenses.
by WolfpackSteelersFan on Feb 6, 2012 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
They did score 41 points on the NFL's best defense.
Granted, Ben gave ’em 7, and maybe 14, but still.
"You might as well appeal against the thunderstorm."
-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
Roethlisberger
didn’t play very well against the Jets in the Divisional round either, for what it’s worth. New England’s defense was great that year…hell, they held Peyton Manning to a field goal.
by pistil_stamen on Feb 6, 2012 2:02 AM EST up reply actions
IIRC, Bill Cowher believes so
I seem to recall a couple years ago the league got pissy with Bill Cowher for implying the Pawts owed him a couple Super Bowl rings.
Wait...
So losing against Green Bay in the Super Bowl and the Broncos this year means…?
You’re right! Absolutely nothing. You win some, you lose some. I don’t think a couple dropped passes here and there have anything to do with having a piece of video tape, but whatever helps you Steelers fans sleep at night, I guess.
Can I Scream?
Where did I say any different? We laid a total egg against the Broncos, no shit sherlock.
Today wasnt about cameras, hell no. I’m just agreeing with his point that it doesnt look good when you win Superbowls, then have a controversy surrounding your team, and then lose two afterwards.
I know how today feels, I really do, it sucks, so go back to your own blog and vent your frustrations with your own fans rather then act like a dick on here.
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by Michael Hewitt on Feb 6, 2012 1:47 AM EST up reply actions
Sleep just fine thank you.
Having a clear conscience helps in that. Should try it sometime.
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You're guys videotaped signals, practices, and took detailed notes.
Then when the NFL demanded you’re guys to hand over the evidence, they waffled. Then Goodell stepped in and had all of the notes and videotapes destroyed as well as sent threatening letters to a former Pats staffer who had some additional evidence until he turned over what he had to also be destroyed and Bill Belichek to this day says he never saw anything or knew anything about what went on under his watch. Bill Freakin Belichek is claiming he doesn’t know what’s going on with his employees. Even the guy who literally invented the single bullet theory smelled a conspiracy on that one, but you Pats fan keep claiming the tapes didn’t help you in any way, shape, or fashion. Sound to me that you’re the ones believing lies to help you sleep at night. Go back to your own site where people will buy your bs and stay offa mine.
Goodell is scum
I fear that before Goodell is done, he shall have completely ruined this game. Between the officiating bullshit on his watch, Spygate, the emphasis on Arena football style play . . . ugh.
Plus, go back and watch this season’s Giants-Packers game. I am still 99% certain the league was trying to use officiating to rig that game. Which would be emblematic of the entire Goodell era. Fuckin rotten to the core.
well get ready for 5 more years of it he just got a new contract
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
Franco Harris:
"If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time."
Don't remind
I’m well aware that the owners love him, mostly because the billionaires seem to be engaged in some fucked up form of class warfare by putting the millionaire athletes in their place.
I find the entire Goodell regime disturbing. It reflects how far the sport has fallen that owner love this guy. Of course, it also makes sure that when the history of the NFL is written, the blame will fall squarely on the owners. Not that that saves the players or the fans from any torment now.
Did you hear the crap she was talking about Tom’s receivers? Funny stuff indeed.
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She was right, Frank...
They dropped four passes. And had Welker hung on to the last one, Gisele and her boy toy would have been in the parade with Mickey.
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- Homer J. Simpson
Maybe it's Pats fans who search for things to make them sleep better at night.
We’ve listened since SB40 how the refs “gave us” that game (not that Seattle didn’t make plays to win…or damn the Steelers never quit and played decent enough to win) so sit down, grab your fork and eat the “we actually did cheat to gain unfair advantage” sandwich that will sit on your table every time you count your teams Lombardi’s.
My sympathies are for Wes Welker as a player. The Pats organization… well, they chose to cheat and when everyone uses the word “genius” and “dynasty” and “well run organization”… don’t forget to add “cheater” because that applies too.
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FOUR TIME LOSERS!
No team has lost more Super Bowls than they have.
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most Superbowl wins: Steelers
most Superbowl losses: patriots
and they get cocky with us!
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
Franco Harris:
"If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time."
Tom Brady
Wasn’t the Tom Brady we know today until 2007. He wasn’t a spectacular QB in 2001, ’03 and ’04….just good enough when it mattered to get the job done. The defense had a lot more to do with those titles than people give them credit for.
by pistil_stamen on Feb 6, 2012 1:54 AM EST up reply actions
Actually this is true
Brady at that time was similar to Eli. Not amazing, nothing really special but knew how to win come crunch time. Wonder if Eli starts to dominate with all of that confidence now
This was a pretty lousy game
You can point to the numbers and how close it was all you want, but really this was an underachieving effort by both sides.
Basically you hardly had any long plays, pretty much everything was a 5-8 yard play and methodical chain moving. Such is the new NFL offense, short patterns and almost impossible to stop plays and you just hope the other team bogs down in the RZ. The Giants did that plenty with horrible play calling (running several times on 2nd and long). Then you had penalties that were just downright dumb.
Pretty much anytime somebody tried something deep it was a bad throw, a sack, or out of bounds.
Add to that the fumbles that luckily never hurt the Giants, Brady looking pretty bad, and drops down the stretch, and you get a pretty ugly game.
That had to be the least exciting close game I’ve ever watched and it was one of the dullest I’ve seen in a while. Just the same thing drive after drive, hardly anything entertaining whatsoever.
But any game where TB is sacked a few times, gets a Safety, and throws an INT makes me happy.
agreed
The Dink and Dunk Bowl.
Boring.
There was nothing exciting except that one catch by Manningham on the sidelines that won the game. Even when the offenses were clicking it was still boring, which moved into sloppy. Same old plays for 5-8 yards.
I will say however, that Gilbride called a good game. Had the pats guessing all night.
Do you think watching Wladimir Klitschko fight is boring too? (Honest question, I swear it’s relevant)
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
A lot of people say it’s boring watching those two guys fight, but in the few I’ve seen, I find it entertaining that they methodically land punch after punch while staying in a good position to defend. They don’t really go for the knockout punch, but their style works.
I kind of felt like the Giants plan yesterday was just like that. I was also wondering what type of football you find exciting, if you don’t mind answering. Just for conversation purposes.
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It’s been stated multiple times, here and elsewhere, about how the game was far from memorable, or exciting save the last few minutes. Compare this to the Pgh-AZ bowl.
Repetition is boring. Much of one quarter seemed like the rest. They both had mostly the same game plans and plays it seemed, although the Giants were more physical. Granted, I wasn’t paying attention as much as I would have had the Steelers played (I missed a number of plays and was distracted with dinner etc) so I base this on what I saw.
For your average football fan I would say it was probably ok, but anybody who’s seen any real football intuitively has to admit it was a dull game. But hey, to each his own.
Oh and "Beligenius"
Was absolutely stumped at the end of the game. If you’re gonna let em score, do it early not after letting 45 seconds burn. The hasty challenge wasted a critical TO.
Coughlin called a pretty smart game. Not going for two early on proved to be a big deal, getting that one point made it a 4 point game at the end.
And this was very well called by the refs, although Id question the Hold on the Giants drive, looked like the guy just lost balance and got shoved down not pulled. Oh and the no call on DPI on Patrick Chung, that was bad. But those were pretty close calls not blatant misses. The rest of the game was pretty much flawless, nothing overturned at all and correctly called penalties.
That challenge came from the guy standing DIRECTLY in front of the play happening.
No one had a better seat in the house than he did…and it was very obvious it was a catch. Terrible decision by Beligenious.
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Coughlin is probably the best gametime coach in the NFL
In terms of handling a full game, handling the clock, handling those quirky “we need to let them score” moments, etc. Tom Coughlin is as good as they come.
If you’re at 4:30 left, trailing by less than a TD in the Super Bowl, you’re in as good of hands as any with Coughlin.
Even Chris Hoke tweeted about Spygate
Well I guess it is true… Brady and Belicheck can’t win the big one without the videos of other teams signals… Just sayin…
"
I wasnt surprised by Clark and Harrison’s tweets, but Hokey’s is a bit more surprising
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Then maybe, just maybe we should give a little MORE credence to the tweets.
I don’t think Harrison tweets unnecessarily. I think he’s generally saying what everyone is thinking. In this case, “everyone” includes Hokie. Interesting, yes?
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by Fifty-Eight on Feb 6, 2012 2:52 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yup
Everybody thinks it, he just said it. I’ve been on almost every SB Nation site and every one of them has fans that think the Patriots cheated.
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by Michael Hewitt on Feb 6, 2012 3:22 AM EST up reply actions
I agree.
Goodell has players running around scared for their careers… I’m glad there are a few players who have guts enough to speak the truth and as expected, they wear black and gold.
Tweet on, Deebo. Goodell the ass is comin’ after you anyway; why not tell it like it is while you wait.
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by 1BlkGldFan on Feb 6, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Question to everyone about Welker's drop
Does anyone else think that Welker’s drop probably represents a lost big play moment that puts him out of Hall of Fame contention down the pike?
I’m curious what others think.
To my mind, with that drop, the HoF conversation about Welker starts shifting to “he’s a system guy in an era where the rules favored his position” and “the Pawts never won the big game with Welker out there”.
I know it’s a little early to write the guy’s obit, but if this ends up being the defining SB moment for Welker, then Welker almost becomes the inverse argument to the old Lynn Swann discussion (“great when he was needed most”).
That was a big moment in the game. It certainly cost the Pawts a FG and a shot at a TD. That moment was almost the exact moment the game fell away from New England.
Welker
Has a lot of catches and zero rings. He’s a great scrappy player who is the premiere slot receiver in the game today, but he’s not a hall of famer.
by pistil_stamen on Feb 6, 2012 1:59 AM EST up reply actions
+1
Slot receivers in pass heavy offenses aren’t Hall of Famers
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by Michael Hewitt on Feb 6, 2012 2:04 AM EST up reply actions
That is the argument
Pretty much for Welker to have HoF hopes the Pawts are going to have to win another Super Bowl and Welker will have to be the clear MVP of that game.
I dunno. For me, this felt like a last gasp for the Brady era. There will be more playoff runs, but barring a shift toward a more balanced (by today’s standards) attack. Even in a joystick league, every now and then you need to run the ball.
I feel like Antonio Brown would have twice the stats that Wes Welker has if he played his position. And not vice versa.
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-William T. Sherman, the Battle of Atlanta
Interesting
I hadn’t thought about Brown in this context. Due to similarities in reputation, I tend to compare Welker to Ward.
Yeah, it’s hard to picture any of the Steelers top three guys letting that one hit the ground.
Oh, this Patriots loss feels SO nice.
Yadda yadda, Steelers victory this year would be better yadda yadda
I’m just glad Brady, Belicheat, etc etc didn’t get it. and there’s no big celebrations going on in the one city in our country with the worst possible accents.
“We just won da Soopah Bole! Quick, run to ah can dat we pahhked out by da cahb and let’s go to a pahhtee!”
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Disgusting
I may stand alone on this, but here it goes anyway. I hate Eli sooo much, I literally didnt “enjoy” the game. Just the thought of him makes me want to vomit!! He played a good game and I respect his ability, I will never forget the day he was drafted though. Im not trting to.get into a debate, I just cannot stand the man. With that said though, NY played a good.game and I congratulate them on the SB win.
Hey, you're definitely entitled to your own opinion, and the forum this blog stands on encourages you to share it. Maybe next year we can celebrate a Steeler victory instead!
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By all means vent away boy!
I didnt really want either team to win, but for me it came down to wanting the Patriots to lose , and lose in a bad way
Today sufficed quite nicely
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by Michael Hewitt on Feb 6, 2012 3:24 AM EST up reply actions
I can’t hold the fact that he didn’t want to play for Cleveland west against him. If it were me, I’d use what power I had to get out of it as well. That’s where careers go to die, it’s a loser franchise, and obviously Eli is a winner.
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No one asked him if he wanted to play there. He was drafted there. Im sure every year there are players who dont want to play for the real Cleveland. Im sure there are also players who dont want to play for the Seahawks, Bears, Lions, Bills, Vikings, and so on. You dont see them crying and saying they wont play unless they get traded.
You’re right, no one asked him, but he used his “best player in the draft” power to avoid having to go to that rotting hole of an NFL franchise. He didn’t want to play for a loser.
As far as other players not wanting to play in those cities, maybe if they did fight their way out, their careers would last longer than 3 years. Also, there was no crying involved, he just laid down the law and said “I’m not playing for your embarrassment of an organization, I want to win” (paraphrasing of course)
And yes, we do know how his career would go if he was in Sd. Nowhere. Just look at that garbage. He won’t pay his best players, he treats everyone like shit, he fires his coach after a 14-2 season just to put one of the LEAST accomplished coaches in NFL history in charge. Come on man, if you cared about winning, you wouldn’t want to play in SD either.
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On top of all that, the Chargers were more than adequately compensated for the trade. They got Shawne Merriman and their all pro kicker plus a pretty damn good QB. The only reason they even picked him is so they could get compensation from another team.
Out of curiosity, do you hate John Elway too?
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I feel the same about Eli
That being said I want Brady and Belicheck to not win a SB post spygate.
by thefirst3peat on Feb 7, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
Happy for the G-Men
Probably for different reasons than most here. I don’t dislike the Patriots at all. I am however growing tired of the “dynasty” living off of their production 7-11 years ago. Brady is a great QB and a class act, as are most of the Pats players and their owner. The one guy I cannot stand is Belichick. This is the guy that makes me cringe. I just don’t like anything about the guy other than his coaching ability.
Congrats NY.
"Brady is a class act"
I’m gonna have to go ahead and disagree with that.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
Franco Harris:
"If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time."
Brady has zero
Ben has one.
Also of note: Ben’s SB winning percentage is higher than Brady’s now.
At least the Patriots finally scored those 17 points against the Giants
Burress was spot on.
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by John Stephens on Feb 6, 2012 8:52 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
last td
Why do people say he shouldve sat down? If they had a lead sure. but when youre behind you take the points you can get. kickers miss field goals (see afc championship game). also the giants had fumbled a couple times
It was second down
if he sat the pats would have had to burn their last timeout and the giants get to run another play, therefore taking more time off the clock. they could have ran the clock down about 10 more seconds and still scored, brady could have gotten the ball back with 45 seconds instead of 59s. If they had not gotten in on the next play you would have had about 5 seconds left on the clock with a extra point distance FG to win the game. How many extra points do you see missed in the NFL… not many. Thats why. :)
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by tannofsteel84 on Feb 6, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
I see both sides. If the game was tied, I’d be more comfortable with the field goal strategy, and I totally understand sitting on it. I thought it was a dumb move when it happened, but it worked out. I would just never feel comfortable leaving it up to a kicker from any distance. (maybe it’s because of the kicker we have that I don’t trust them…_)
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Sitting down means taking points off the board
You score the TD if your D can’t stop an 80 yrd drive with less than 1:00 on the clock you don’t deserve the Hardware.
by thefirst3peat on Feb 7, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
Before the game I talked to my Irish buddy...
He is a Patriots fan, and wanted to talk smack on me. I told him that this was going to be a Superbowl between two mediocre teams, and thought the mediocre 9-7 team from New
York would win.
I don’t know if it’s me, or the new NFL, but I found this to be a very lacklustre season.
It was a muddled season.
The lockout really hurt a lot of teams, and especially the players conditioning. I think next year is going to be something really special.
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I want what they have.
I’m not going to lie, I’m jealous and a little bitter. I really believe that if we stayed as healthy as we were when we beat the Pats and stomped the Bengals, we would have been there this year.
I WANT THIS FOR MYSELF.
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we would have been
but to me, an injury ended year hurts a little less than a year when the team was just clearly not good enough.
This team was great for a short spell, but that doesn’t cut it in the NFL playoffs.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
Franco Harris:
"If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time."
MANNINGS
Will ELI be considered the best Manning, when all is said and done??
Well Peyton’s career is pretty much over with besides a 1-2 year stint with the Redskins (which still means it is over with).
While Eli is only getting better, has an INSANE group of WR that haven’t even reached their full potential (scary) and a extremely young and very, very talented team around him.
So yes, I think Eli will be the better Manning.
"Picture Me Rollin"
Manning can win another ring before he retires. He knows how to win on the road in the playoffs — few HoF QBs could even do that on a regular basis.
Which Manning are you talking about now? Eli has 5 road wins in his last 2 Superbowl runs, so lets not try to make it seem like Peyton is doing anything more special than little bro is.
The word “Manning” very much has 2 meanings now.
And I just can’t see Peyton going to a talented enough team to make another run. He is 36, will never be the same he once was before the surgery, and there are reports flying around that the Deadskins are highly interested in getting him.
We will see, but as of right now, I’m putting my money on Eli having more rings than Peyton.
"Picture Me Rollin"
I meant Eli, forgot we were talking about both Mannings. Eli is much more dangerous on the road in the playoffs than PeyPey.
Also saw something where he said he’d play for little to no guaranteed money. That makes him an option for just about any team who’s only missing the QB. SF would be dumb with Peyton, so would Kansas City. And if there is a single person with enough OCD to change the culture around the lazy ass trainwreck that is the Raiders, it’d be Peyton
It might be blasphemy to say this
But what about the Broncos? I’m sure Elway would love to get him and let’s face it, it would just about take a Peyton Manning signing to get the Denver fanbase to overcome the Tebow love.
Tee Hee
What’s better than the Pats losing? Them losing a close one that will eat at their guts all off season.
May poison ivy infest their jocks.
Modern era Hall of Fame QB's
Troy Aikman
George Blanda
Terry Bradshaw
Len Dawson
John Elway
Dan Fouts
Otto Graham
Bob Griese
Sonny Jurgensen
Jim Kelly
Bobby Layne
Dan Marino
Joe Montana
Warren Moon
Joe Namath
Bart Starr
Rodger Staubach
Fran Tarkington
Y A Tittle
Johnny Unitas
Norm Van Brocklin
Bob Waterfield
Steve Young (?)
Eli Manning? …. not in my book…. Funny how Steve Young was the one to anoint him.
Heck…. Ken Stabler not in….
Ben ? …. almost….
It will be interesting to see what happens in a few years
Will gaudy passing stats or winning when it matters most weigh more heavy in HoF voting. I’d pick the latter, but I might be bias.
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by John Stephens on Feb 6, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
The QB position
will likely always carry more weight than other positions in terms of what the voters think. Even if Eli’s career stats don’t approach HOF locks like his older brother, Eli should finish as the Giants all time leading passer, and that will be good enough. Another factor in Eli’s favor is simply playing in New York.
Ben is in a similar boat, his career stats won’t be at the level of Brady and Brees, but the winning and eventual franchise leader in passing will be more than enough. As I’ve said before, only another serious off field issue could derail # 7 in the years ahead.
The Snake
I think Stabler is hurt by hanging on over the last several years of his career, while he played at an old age, his effectiveness really tailed off after 30. Stabler’s off field lifestyle wasn’t conducive to a long, effective career. That said, there was a period in the mid 70s, when he was outstanding.
After leading the Raiders to victory in the January 1977 Super Bowl, Stabler had an off year in 1979, and combined with issues with the Oakland front office, led to his trade to Houston in 1980. So it was an aging Jim Plunkett, not Stabler, who led the Raiders to the world title in 1980.
personally, I dont think Young belongs in there...
I look at it this way….. put those 20 something players in a room, then have the next QB looking to be inducted state his case….
last thing I want is more Steve Youngs in the half of fame…to me, in his case, Its an insult to Joe Montana… I Dont think Phil Simms deserves to be inducted, and at this point Eli the same… would be an insult to the likes of YA Tittle…
by OR69faithfull on Feb 6, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
I can see you not thinking Simms should be in, but why Young? His stats are insane, and he has the championship.
How is Young being in an insult to Montana? SF had a genuine QB controversy even during the season that the 9ers won their 3rd SB of the decade, and again the next season.
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