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Steelers Expected to Announce Hiring of Todd Haley as Offensive Coordinator

Reports are emerging, initially by Mark Carmen of 610 AM in Kansas City, Todd Haley will join Mike Tomlins staff as the Steelers offensive coordinator.

ESPN's Chris Mortensen has since confirmed Carmen's tweet, and Adam Schefter said the Steelers "plan to hire" Haley. The Steelers have not yet confirmed this on their web site, however.

Haley has shown a prowess for directing both successful passing offenses (Arizona) and running offenses (Kansas City), and is known for his creativity and football acumen.

Others have cited concerns with potential personality conflicts, after incidents in which Haley is seen yelling at his players on the sideline, only to have them yelling right back at him.

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As it is, he will replace Bruce Arians as Tomlin's offensive coordinator, only the second person Tomlin has brought in for the position.

In what must have been one of the more sought-after offensive coordinating positions in the NFL this season, Haley takes over the reins of an offense that saw its quarterback (Ben Roethlisberger) and two receivers (Mike Wallace and Antonio Brown) in the Pro Bowl in 2011.

Despite individual talent, the unit struggled, particularly in the red zone, and will need someone who can lead them out of the bottom third of the league's scoring offenses.

The first attention Haley and Tomlin are likely to spend is on the Steelers' banged-up offensive line. It's likely the Steelers will draft a few offensive linemen, as depth will be at a premium.

The development of a more all-around focused ground game has been requested from the Steelers' front office, and they're likely to have to do it without RB Rashard Mendenhall for at minimum part of training camp after Mendenhall tore his ACL in the team's final regular season game.

The challenges are ahead of the Steelers' offense, but if fixed, this team could be in position to be either the Giants or the Patriots of the 2012 season.

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Remember your blood pressure Neal...

United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.

by PaVaSteeler on Feb 6, 2012 6:14 PM EST reply actions  

Is it just me or does or is this evidence of white knuckled control and off screen keyboard mashing?

"Kompromise, my friend, is the essence of diplomacy, and diplomacy is the kornerstone of love... sweeeeeet looooOOOve"

by CheekyMonkey on Feb 6, 2012 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m a bit thinner, don’t write in pencil and I’m white.

by Neal Coolong on Feb 6, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

So that IS your hair style then!

United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.

by PaVaSteeler on Feb 7, 2012 7:42 AM EST up reply actions  

But other than that.

If you buy a foreign made product you give money to a person who will not be buying an American made product that you get paid to make. Think about it next time you're at the store.

by SNW on Feb 7, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

LMAF!

lol… nothing but love for you Neal.

"Kompromise, my friend, is the essence of diplomacy, and diplomacy is the kornerstone of love... sweeeeeet looooOOOve"

by CheekyMonkey on Feb 7, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

In the front office, we trust.

I think.

"Aye, do tiitieboy twochainz got twitter?"

by DwightWhite's Missing Tooth on Feb 6, 2012 6:14 PM EST reply actions  

Not entirely sure how to feel about this.

I think Haley is a talented coordinator, but that stuff where he was accusing the Chiefs of tapping his phone is… worrisome. I think we should give him a chance though.

by JDSpartan on Feb 6, 2012 6:15 PM EST reply actions  

I'm excited

Good to get the wait over with, and it gives us someone who knows how to win. He has his issues, but he is tough and knows Pittsburgh.

Welcome Coach, and I hope you get some rings during your stay.

by Michael Uhlhorn on Feb 6, 2012 6:16 PM EST reply actions  

You got good reason to be excited

Haley did a great job with KC. Most KC fans wish he was still here and the GM was gone.

by riverr on Feb 6, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Careful

Any negative comments about Egoli may be monitored

by Neal Coolong on Feb 6, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I've gotten that while talking to some KC people

I’m not sure how he was expected to win without his QB, his star RB, and his best defensive player. Not sure what he was expected to do.

by Michael Uhlhorn on Feb 7, 2012 9:11 AM EST up reply actions  

"Personality issues"

He was expected to not be insufferable. He wasn’t fired for losing, he was fired because as long as he was the head coach they’d never be able to keep an OC for more than a single season. He wasn’t a bad coach, but he wasn’t good enough to force the ownership to put up with his incredibly irritating personality.

by Steelgator on Feb 7, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

My case for Todd Haley

Re-posted from the fanpost, if folks don’t mind, since I know conversation will migrate here.

I think either my case below is correct, or it’ll be epic disaster. Not a ton of middle ground.

1) Young enough to commit to the team long-term, experienced enough to do the job (and unlikely to be hired as a HC soon)

2) Has always adapted his scheme and play-calling to the personnel, not the other way around (cough couch Bruce Arians).

3) He’s got attitude. It’ll be the number one complaint, but when was the last time this offense had attitude? When was it last that our identity was to go out and hit the other guy in the teeth?

4) He won’t go soft on Ben. Ben needs more discipline in his game. 2-3 checkdown/throwaways per game would elevate this offense and Ben’s performance. Arians/Fichtner are buddies, he needs a boss.

5) He’s gotten a ton out of young players in previous stints. And this is a very young offense.

by syrsteelerfan on Feb 6, 2012 6:16 PM EST reply actions  

This

4) He won’t go soft on Ben. Ben needs more discipline in his game. 2-3 checkdown/throwaways per game would elevate this offense and Ben’s performance. Arians/Fichtner are buddies, he needs a boss.

Word

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"He was popping off down there the first time they were about to score. So you run your mouth, expect to get something. Everything's between the lines, so he got what he had coming. He was running his mouth and getting in the way of the train, and the train wasn't coming off the track."
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by TVsCHACHI on Feb 6, 2012 6:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

#2

One of the knocks on Haley is that he had lots to talent to work with in Arizona (when he last had success). To me this doesn’t hold a lot of weight. You have to use the talent you have well to win and that’s something we didn’t do this year. To me his adaptability and ability to use skilled players well is the biggest reason the FO hired him.

"Kompromise, my friend, is the essence of diplomacy, and diplomacy is the kornerstone of love... sweeeeeet looooOOOve"

by CheekyMonkey on Feb 6, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Five good points...

…but there’s one major point against him.

6) NOT a team player. He doesn’t work well with others and could quite possibly end up as a cancer in the locker room.

I’m hoping that this goes down alongside the Patriots picking up Randy Moss rather than the Cowboys grabbing Terrell Owens.

by Steelgator on Feb 7, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Really

What exactly do you know about this guy besides the venom spewed in the mainstream media that likes controversy and conflict? Randy Moss was another thing altogether.

No offense, but you’re so sure about yourself it’s kinda scary.

by IronJake on Feb 9, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Are the sources reporting

this story, better than the ones reporting that Keith Butler took the Indy job? As far as I can tell, this all started with some low rent KC radio station. I’ll buy the news if and when the Steelers make an announcement.

by Greig Clawson on Feb 6, 2012 6:18 PM EST reply actions  

Peter King said the Steelers offered him the job…he has not yet been named the coordinator, so you may be right.

You’d think I would have learned, but considering this has been such a hot topic, I wrote it as multiple sources are reporting it.

Again, though, the Steelers have not said anything yet. That’s not uncommon though.

by Neal Coolong on Feb 6, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I only wanted

to give you one last, fleeting bit of hope to cling onto.

by Greig Clawson on Feb 6, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

Well, I appreciate it…I just don’t want to report it the way I did with the Butler story.

My opinion of the guy is ultimately irrelevant, the thing no one’s really said against my argument is he can be a jerk and be successful. I’m from the Lebeau school of personnel management, but both ways can work.

by Neal Coolong on Feb 6, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

The buddy approach of Arians

Didn’t work out the best for Ben. It looks like Tomlin wants to try going in the completely opposite direction. Not sure if a 180 will be the smoothest transition but it just may work. Fingers crossed >_<

-You're welcome.

by Jux on Feb 6, 2012 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess this is the part I don't get

Ok, fine, we don’t like they fact Arians and Roethlisberger are friends.

Why is it better to intentionally make our $100 million quarterback angry? Consider the risk if Haley is told to go out and do what he does, and it creates a huge rift between himself and Roethlisberger.

Guess what? They ain’t gettin’ rid of Roethlisberger. That attitude could very easily have as many drawbacks as positives.

The other thing is Lebeau. He may not be anyone on the team’s buddy, but they refer to him as Dad, and he’s revered inside the locker room. While I’m not suggesting Lebeau’s offensive counterpart is available, but he’s certainly an example of someone who doesn’t yell, flip out and berate his players, yet, he commands respect and gets his players to achieve results.

by Neal Coolong on Feb 6, 2012 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I doubt they want him and Ben to hate each other.

But want Ben to be held accountable. Granted Haley’s aggressive style definitely runs the risk of putting a rift between the two, but Haley has also had many former players speak praises of playing for him. Hell Breaston went to KC just to play for him again.

I’ve had coaches before who were Haley’s style and even though I hated them at first I found myself working my ass off to prove them wrong. I guess we just have to hope this is what happens and give him a chance before we assume it won’t work.

-You're welcome.

by Jux on Feb 6, 2012 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe Neal.. the FO

Has thoughts of migrating him eventually into his fathers footsteps…. would make sense given his fathers history, as well as taking that volatile personality out of public view… Lets hope the whole situation doesnt implode

by OR69faithfull on Feb 6, 2012 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

So the Steelers hired him with hopes to eventually succeed Kevin Colbert as their GM?

by Neal Coolong on Feb 6, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Another way to look at it

Bill Belichick, and Tom Caughlin are both dicks, and their teams made it all the way to the Super Bowl.

I don’t know enough about Haley to come on in defense for the criticisms made against him. I have seen some things that at least provide some encouragement that he can do a good job… or at least better than BA.

by Greig Clawson on Feb 6, 2012 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

From a Haley supporter

He is definitely a bigger dick than those two. Mainly because he is a hothead and more vulgar but still.

-You're welcome.

by Jux on Feb 6, 2012 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Belichick and Coughlin are not hated by his players. The Patriots don’t give a toss if Belichick skipped out on a post-game interview with NBC, but lots of other people see that as dick-ish and classless.

by Neal Coolong on Feb 6, 2012 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

two different things

Strahan and Caughlin were always bumping heads. The same can be said for Osi and Caughlin. The guy runs a tight ship, and gets in his players faces when they get out of line. The players don’t hate Caughlin, because his demanding coaching style has made them a better team.

by Greig Clawson on Feb 6, 2012 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Why do you think Belichick is a dick? The players all seem to love him.

Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?

by FrankWyt on Feb 6, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Some perspective.

I lived in Chiefs country through the new Pioli/Haley regime. Most fans weren’t sure about the hire initially because his limited experience and mixed track record, but generally people were excited to see if he could turn the team around. He turned out to be very passionate, exciting, demanding, and carried high expectations. After the results from his style didn’t generate an explosive offense and troubles with the front office continued to build, it was time for him to move on.

I think his was a classic case of someone getting promoted to a position over his head in an environment that wasn’t ripe for success. When the talent was there he was able to field the number one rushing attack and drastically improve the wideouts on the roster, but he never seemed to get the big picture of being a head coach.

It will be really interesting to see what he can do with all the talent on our roster when he only has to focus on the offense (his greatest strength). I know some people around here are extremely anti-Haley and I can understand why. His attitude and demeanor can be off-putting, but from someone who got used to him I am extremely excited.

-You're welcome.

by Jux on Feb 6, 2012 6:22 PM EST reply actions  

He may have been one position too high

Similar to our def coordinator, this may be a good fit. Hope BB acts like a Pro and an adult, and embraces the change and tries to learn.

"I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest." Jack Lambert.

by 58 on Feb 6, 2012 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah that worries me a bit.

Especially after going public with his thoughts on the Arians retirement. But I think you will see a much more subdued Todd Haley than his time with the chiefs. He is coming into a MUCH better environment in every sense of the word. No regime change, solid defense, steady coaching staff, and a much deeper talent pool (save the o-line). He will still hold Ben accountable but I doubt well see any freakouts like he did with Brodie Croyle.

-You're welcome.

by Jux on Feb 6, 2012 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a good point

Haley is certainly and abrasive and irritable individual, but in fairness I don’t think there’s anyone in the entire Chiefs organization or fan base that hasn’t been driven to profanity by the team’s sloppy play.
Working with professionals like the Steelers have should limit his stress.

by Steelgator on Feb 7, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Haley is certainly and abrasive and irritable individual..

that’s a pretty specific accusation. You think his wife or close friends thinks this about him?

Have you ever met or worked with him?

Are you basing this on what “unnamed” sources say?

See, this is exactly how rumors start. Keep repeating inaccuracies or baseless opinion and it becomes the truth.

EVERYBODY is moderately difficult to work with.

by IronJake on Feb 9, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

It's about players first, and coaching second

The Steelers need to upgrade the O-line or this offense will be no better.
In my opinion coaching gets vastly over-rated, it is a very distant second in importance to the actual players who need to execute on the field.

by jedmiller71 on Feb 6, 2012 6:24 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I dont get it

He called plays for 1 and a half years with AZ. One season with KC
He hard Warner and Fitz and bolden and breaston. What is impressive about this resume?
Reminds me of brian billick with Minnesota. Got to be HC. Never to be hired again
I dont get it at all
Plus he seems like a dick

by scottd7 on Feb 6, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

You mean Mike Tice?

Billick won a SB with BALT

But you keep pulling out your "refs-threw-the-game" card if that’s what you need for catharsis. You can use that card after every loss. It is a lifetime pass. Get it laminated. -Maryrose

by Twell on Feb 6, 2012 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Billick

Has not been hired as offensive coach again. That was my point

by scottd7 on Feb 6, 2012 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Billick got a raw deal here in Baltimore

the ravens had one bad year and fans and sports media ran him out of town. They replaced him with a ST coach who is a douche and I believe does not command the respect of his players. This town is so desperate for a SB title is crazy. With the Orioles at the bottom of the AL East every year the only hope people in this crazy town have is the Ravens.

by steeler_in_maryland on Feb 6, 2012 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

The Ravens look like geniuses for canning Billick and hiring Harbaugh.

I think I’m gonna light myself on fire now.

by Neal Coolong on Feb 6, 2012 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

After Minne. where his Os set some records

He coached BALT for 9 seasons, ……Cowher hasn’t been hired again either

But you keep pulling out your "refs-threw-the-game" card if that’s what you need for catharsis. You can use that card after every loss. It is a lifetime pass. Get it laminated. -Maryrose

by Twell on Feb 6, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

I don’t think the fact Billick doesn’t have a job is because no teams want to hire him. I think he’ll only do it for the top coaching dollars, and as we saw this year, that money only went to one new head coach (Fisher in St. Louis). The rest hired assistants.

I do think, though Baltimore needed to in a new direction, but Billick is still a good coach. As far as his time in Minnesota, it seems many coordinators with a motivated Randy Moss break records…

by Neal Coolong on Feb 6, 2012 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

If by...
many coordinators with a motivated Randy Moss

….you mean two.

But you keep pulling out your "refs-threw-the-game" card if that’s what you need for catharsis. You can use that card after every loss. It is a lifetime pass. Get it laminated. -Maryrose

by Twell on Feb 7, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

He hard Warner and Fitz and bolden and breaston. What is impressive about this resume?

What? Warner hadn’t done anything since 2001. Fitzgerald was good but all he could do was the jump ball, Boldin was good but never great and he drafted Breaston in the fifth a year later he had a 1,008 yard season. The facts are he can coach potential out of his WRs and with these young guys the sky is the limit just need to fix that O-line.

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by Steel34D on Feb 6, 2012 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Warner got knocked 4 years in to the future by Mike Martz system. It’s amazing he even knew his own name. It took him a long time to shake off the beatings he took in StL

Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?

by FrankWyt on Feb 6, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

no offense, but..

That is crazy talk. Are you related to Haley or something? You give Haley all the credit for developing Warner, Boldin and Fitzgerald? He was OC for two years. He must be amazing.
Or, Warner-hall of fame QB. Fitz- hall of fame WR. Boldin- pro bowl WR who was a beast his first 4 seasons. Not saying he can’t coach, just saying maybe he was in the right place at the right time.

by scottd7 on Feb 7, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

This is what will take place when Ben takes a sack, moving Pitt out of FG range

Haley yells at BB and he says “coach, it’s what I do, how I play and I ain’t ever changing…don’t worry we will still win”. And Haley responds above appropriately

by Majabe on Feb 6, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

And Haley replies, "that big, dumb stupid bastard is right!!

Who's laughing now, O Line??? Ben Roethlisberger (from the Podium) to his O-Line and the world in Superbowl XLIII

by SteeladyinVA on Feb 6, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it weird

That I actually like his style of being a dickhead?

-You're welcome.

by Jux on Feb 6, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I do too

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by LV Steelers Fan on Feb 6, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I worry that it may alienate Ben or put a rift in there.

But based on players like Warner and Fitz endorsing Haley, I have hope that it will all work out.

-You're welcome.

by Jux on Feb 6, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too

Only a couple hires could get me excited and he is one of them. I could careless if they hate each other as long as they respect one another. Bradshaw and Noll are a great example, Noll was really hard on him but they had a mutual respect for each other the rest is history. He attacks teams weakness’ , uses his teams strengths, is unpredictable and keeps teams off balance, he’ll run when it’s called for and pass when it’s called for and I doubt he would do anything to tarnish his family name in Pittsburgh. Great, great, hire imo, hope he lasts a long time as OC, not a great HC but few are but he knows how to run an offense as good as anyone out there and that’s all he will be asked to do here. Hope it becomes official.

by SteelCity G on Feb 6, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Yay discussion!

I am also somewhat optimistic on what Haley’s take on the offense will be.

Not to mention, I just quickly looked at his draft picks on the offensive side over the last two years (they drafted mostly defense and traded for Cassel in 2009). Of course, disclaimers over whether Pioli or Haley pulled the trigger, but you would have to imagine he would be heavily involved for the offensive players. Anyways, there seem to be some interesting tendencies.

1) He drafted Dexter McCluster and then utilized him both out of the slot and as a change-of-pace back. Maybe we target one this year, such as a LaMichael James.
2) He spent a 3rd rounder on TE Tony Moeaki, so I would assume we might see more of a role for Miller as a receiver.
3) They spent a first rounder on Jonathan Baldwin this year, but then again they had little else besides Dwayne Bowe….
4) Which leads me to the most important: in 2010, they drafted G Jon Asamoah at 63rd overall and the next year drafted G Rodney Hudson at 55th overall. Of course, take this a grain of salt, but it would seem more probable that we look to upgrade this spot on day 2 of the upcoming draft.

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-- so says Rex Ryan.

by sctx109 on Feb 6, 2012 6:28 PM EST reply actions  

Mccluster

Is a fun player but not a second rounder. A classic reach

by scottd7 on Feb 6, 2012 6:33 PM EST reply actions  

An injury

hampered a good portion of his first season but since then he has been fairly productive. Although I agree that he may have been grabbed in a later round (there were rumors of other teams wanting him in the second) I think it’s too soon to assess his overall value.

-You're welcome.

by Jux on Feb 6, 2012 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I love him

But not an every down back so second round is too high IMO

by scottd7 on Feb 6, 2012 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Kirby Morris

Would of had the job if not for the fire.

by Lamarr56 on Feb 6, 2012 6:41 PM EST reply actions  

Wilson.

I can say that because for some reason I always refer to him as Kirby Jackson.

by Neal Coolong on Feb 6, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Wilson

Great point let’s keep in mind that the Steelers had a plan and unfortunately, life made some changes to that plan. So I won’t feel too bad if it looks like the team was floundering a little bit.

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

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by showtime on Feb 6, 2012 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Neutral Feeling

Meh

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by Michael Hewitt on Feb 6, 2012 6:43 PM EST reply actions  

Hoping for the best.

I assume the regular background checks were done and the front office found the positives outweighed the negatives. Almost any coach has some negatives. IF he is willing stand up to, but work with, Big Ben things will work out.

by Zombie Zombie on Feb 6, 2012 6:48 PM EST reply actions  

Hell yeah -

So he can be a dick? Seems to have talent and he has adapted to his personnel, which is key …. he’s young and will continue to improve, and he likely won’t get another HC opportunity for 3-5 years. Bring some attitude to the OC role and let’s go kick some **s in 2012.

Who’s with me?!

by Watty4ever on Feb 6, 2012 7:10 PM EST reply actions  

Front Office

The one thing that stands out to me is the stability factor. KC has had 6 different coaches(89 to present) and who knows the amount of OC and DC. It’s not like Haley went to a franchise that has been worldbeaters. The pressure to win now or be gone in a year or three could of been a factor in his demeanor. I guess what I am trying to say is what better run franchise is there. My bet is The Front Office,Tomlin and even Coach Dad won’t allow Haley’s, for lack of a better word, dickheadiness to be a factor. Sure It will be some bumps along the way but if Haley can get Ben to bye into some tweaking, just 10% , this O will be better.

If all else fails, if and when Coach Wilson is able to return he can assume his job as OC. GO STEELERS!!!!

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by Pittsblitz56 on Feb 6, 2012 7:27 PM EST reply actions  

It should be good

I for one feel Big Ben needs to get out of that comfort shell he has been in with Arians. Being a diehard steelerfan I saw he got way too comfortable with BA and they both became too predictable. Thats how the Ravens were able to beat us this year both times. We need the o-line re-established in Pittsburgh and we need Big Ben to get a little more cerebral on the field. It seems Eli is gonna pass him as an elite qb as well if nothing different is thrown at him to force him to evolve into the QB we all know he can be. Besides, its not like Haley is a stranger to the team. Hell, he used to be the damn ball boy when his dad was there. Welcome home Todd and lets get this thing rollin. I, myself, am looking forward to the combination of offense that we can have that he can mesh from AZ and KC. LETS DO THIS STEELER NATION! If Big Ben is the consumate pro that I think he is he will accept it and it will work. Remember yall, his offense scared the hell out of all Steeler fan in the SB against AZ when he was OC, so you doubters should be a little more optimistic.

by ga-steeler on Feb 6, 2012 7:33 PM EST reply actions  

I appreciate the positive outlook.

No reason not to give him a chance.

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

Franco Harris:
"If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time."

by showtime on Feb 6, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahahaha

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by John Stephens on Feb 6, 2012 7:38 PM EST via Android app reply actions   1 recs

Welcome coach!!!

Finally someone who would run a 3 and 1 with a RB in the field!!!!

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by rhino-mike on Feb 6, 2012 7:39 PM EST reply actions  

I mean really

all you can do is hope that the guy has learned from the past that being a complete jerk face all the time just doesn’t work. If he has learned that then I think this is a great hire. If he hasn’t then this could be a disaster.

But he’ll have my support until he deserves to lose it.

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Feb 6, 2012 7:41 PM EST reply actions  

Why do I hate it?

hmm let me think about that. The guy is the worlds biggest a**hole, he has no respect, and he is the exact opposite of Tomlin. Tomlin is a players coach. Haley is the furthest thing from it. I do think he is a very smart play caller and coordinator but I don’t know if he fits the Steelers way

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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 6, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

The worlds biggest asshole? Has no respect? The exact opposite of Tomlin? And you feel knowledgeable enough about him to make these extreme statements how exactly?

by worldtrip on Feb 6, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m in your camp, SHS.

Did you recover alright today?

by Neal Coolong on Feb 6, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope he proves you and neal wrong

for the steelers sake.

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Feb 6, 2012 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I just said I didn’t like the guy, I never said he wouldn’t be hired.

by Neal Coolong on Feb 6, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

thats not the point buddy

I hope he proves you wrong about his attitude while here

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Feb 6, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope he proves me wrong as well and if he does, ill admit i was wrong

And dont get me wrong, i will support the man 100% as long as he is part of our organization.

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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 6, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Buddy?

He won’t prove me wrong, because what I have a problem with is how he’s acted in the past.

If he lets up, or continues to be aggressive, that doesn’t change what he did. He may have success with it, and I hope he does. I don’t like people who go about things the way he has shown to, if you don’t like that, well, I’m sorry you don’t.

by Neal Coolong on Feb 6, 2012 8:57 PM EST up reply actions  

So why the freak does it matter what happens in the past

smh

Thats what you don’t get. How he acted in the past irrelevant to this situation. How hard is that to understand? All that matters is how he acts when he is with us.

Maybe I’m naive, or just have a forgiving heart but I don’t hold grudges. I’m willing to give someone a second chance. That’s just me. Do I like the way he went about things, no I don’t. But does that mean I hate the guy and don’t think he could change because of it? No.

But I know I can’t have it both ways, his success and failures in the past are not relevant to the Steelers all that matters is how he does with us. No you can’t change the past but there comes a point in time to bury the past and focus on the future. Its time we start looking at the future and stop worrying so much about the past. If it happens here then we’ll deal with it but I’m sure the Steelers didn’t hire Haley thinking this guys is going to blow up our locker room.

As for the buddy remark, it was a sign that we are still on the same side. Thats all, it wasn’t meant any other way.

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Feb 6, 2012 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Alright, hey, I hear ya

No worries, man, no one’s battling, you don’t feel his past matters, and that’s fine. Plenty of examples to show how his past may not matter.

All I’m saying is I don’t think a guy who’s had success in doing what he’s been doing over the last 20 some years is going to change.

But you very well could be right, it may not matter. I think if he succeeds, it will be because of his ability to manage a highly productive offense, but if he doesn’t, it’s going to be because he helped divide an offense that’s very fragile at the moment.

by Neal Coolong on Feb 6, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

+1 on the offense being a little fragile

Ben will be the catalyst to the outcome

"you will hardly know who I am or what I mean"-Walt Whitman

by Pittsblitz56 on Feb 6, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you are right
All I’m saying is I don’t think a guy who’s had success in doing what he’s been doing over the last 20 some years is going to change.

After getting fired could cause you to re-evaluate some methods, I would hope. Not an complete change but just tweaks.

But you very well could be right, it may not matter. I think if he succeeds, it will be because of his ability to manage a highly productive offense, but if he doesn’t, it’s going to be because he helped divide an offense that’s very fragile at the moment.

Completely agree. The main question is, is Mike Wallace going to be a guy that can’t handle sharing the ball and spotlight? This offense will work best when everyone, including tightends and running backs, are getting shine.

The management of personalities and keeping everyone happy is going to be a difficult task but one that is needed.

I think the other issue is getting a line but I think we’ll do that in the draft.

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Feb 6, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Good thing he doesn't have to coach james harrison!

Who's laughing now, O Line??? Ben Roethlisberger (from the Podium) to his O-Line and the world in Superbowl XLIII

by SteeladyinVA on Feb 6, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

hell I don't know....I'm sort of indifferent to Haley but.....

This move seems to say that the Steelers are not simply holding steady….which they do and do very well. Normally they would promote an internal guy who has been groomed and it would be just…. consistent but sort of….. boring.

This announcement seems agressive, risky, taking chances, and definitely out of character.
In other words, I kind of like it because it feels like they are telegraphing a more aggressive style this off season……

by Majabe on Feb 6, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Winning consistently

will round out a lot of rough edges, esp after our early exit this season.

I believe the biggiest positive difference n the upcoming season (going on the basis that we actually improve) will b determined by what the FO decides 2 do re: protecting Ben. IMHO, that is far & away issue #1 this offseason. This carries import 4 both immediate & long term prospects 4 this teams standing as an elite team n the NFL. Yes, Ben is tough. I do NOT, however, believe he is tough enuf 2 withstand either the amount, severity, or frequency of blows 2 his body he is currently enduring, particularly over the last 3 seasons.

Issue #2 will b the relatively extensive (4 us) housecleaning we will almost certainly b forced 2 perform 2 comply w the salary cap restrictions. Both of these issues carry >import & will hv a greater effect on our upcoming seasons success or failure, IMHO.

Likelyhood Ben will significantly change his MO: < 5%

Likelyhood Coach T made it clear 2 new OC what he considers “Steeler Football” & BB’s value 2 that gameplan: >95%

Likelyhood new OC realizes what a “plum” he has, & that an outstanding contribution here cld propel him 2 HC (somwhere else, of course) dwn the road: >75%

Likelyhood new OC realizes a poor showing here cld = exit from coaching anywhere n the NFL: >90%

Welcome 2 Steeler Nation, Coach Haley, where the expectations & talent level r higher than anywhere u’ve been b4, or r likely 2 ever be! U will respect our players f u want theirs, they will accept no less. Treated w the respect they deserve, they will show u an offense u cld only dream about w other teams. We’ve (xcept OL) got the talent n the skill positions; if u’ve got the plan, we can lay waste 2 the other teams standing n our way 2 the trophy that rightfully belongs w it’s SIX siblings.

when u can bring urself 2b grateful 4 ur problems u`ll begin 2 harvest their positive value. life is difficult; but out of that difficulty can grow meaning & beauty, f u r open 2 it. n each disappointment is the seed of fulfillment. learn what it has 2 teach & u`ll b moving urself 4ward.

The more you sweat in training, the less you'll bleed in battle.

by MeanJoeGreen on Feb 6, 2012 8:02 PM EST reply actions  

nice post

but seriously, consider typing out “to” instead of using 2, “be” instead of “b” etc. I feel like I’m reading some high school kid’s email to snoop dog or something.

by SteelersVT on Feb 7, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

You know what he meant.

"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."

by Riddlah. on Feb 7, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with SteelersVT. As soon as I saw how MeanJoe wrote his comment, I skipped over it to the next one. It’s one thing to write like that in a text. Quite another in this forum. Write out your words, use capitalization, and proper punctuation. It’s not too much to ask

by worldtrip on Feb 7, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll be interested to see if he is free to create his own offensive playbook from scratch with his own numbering system and language, and have the whole offense learn it, or give him the Arians playbook and tell him to learn it and work with that with only some of his own slight adjustments.

I thought Arians had some great plays designed. He just didn’t seem to have a good feel a lot of times on what play to call when.

by worldtrip on Feb 6, 2012 8:03 PM EST reply actions  

As Bill Parcells said, “If they’re asking you to cook dinner for them, the least they can do is let you pick the groceries.”

If they are hiring him, then they’re hiring him to run the offense, not be a facilitator of the offense Arians ran. I think people put too much into just play-calling; it’s about the offense Haley can install, and the variety of packages he’ll run and the ways he’ll have them run. With all of that comes his system. They gotta let him run it.

by Neal Coolong on Feb 6, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

That Bill Parcells quote was talking about drafting players.

We’ll see what they do. I wouldn’t be surprised if he designs his own plays while using the same language and numbering system already in place, as well as keeping a number of plays that are already in the playbook

by worldtrip on Feb 6, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I would think that the terminology wouldn't be that different

Arians replaced Whisenhunt, and they kept the same offense with Arians’ stamp on it. Haley was Whiz’s OC, so I would expect that he had the same offense that Whiz had here. At least, when I saw the Cards in his first year, I recognized many of the plays.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Feb 6, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

He was referring to him running the team vs. Jerry Jones

That goes from drafting to playcalling and everything else. If they’re hiring him, they’ll let the man do his job under the presumption he is doing it in line with the direction of the head coach and the front office.

by Neal Coolong on Feb 6, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Not to belabor the point, but Parcells quote had nothing to do with the Cowboys, it was about the draft and the Patriots. From Wikipedia "Parcells left the Patriots after disagreements with owner Robert Kraft; Parcells felt he did not have enough input in player personnel decisions. Upon his departure, Parcells famously stated: “They want you to cook the dinner; at least they ought to let you shop for some of the groceries. Okay?” This was mainly in reference to an incident in the Patriots’ war room during the 1996 Draft where Parcells, who wanted to draft a defensive player with their first-round choice, was vetoed by Kraft, and the Patriots selected Ohio State WR Terry Glenn."

As to what I pondered about the handling of Haley, you basically made my point with this comment “they’ll let the man do his job under the presumption he is doing it in line with the direction of the head coach and the front office” The question is will they (the head coach and front office) tell him that they want him to use the same terminology that was being used under Arians and for him to look through the playbook and incorporate some of the plays into his playbook, or will they allow him to completely blow it up and start anew.

by worldtrip on Feb 6, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Alright, well, Wikipedia page aside, I heard it say it from him when he was in the booth again after leaving the Cowboys, and that was the subject of conversation.

It can cover lots of things, though. I smell what you’re steppin’ in though, Dub-Tripper!

by Neal Coolong on Feb 6, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

We were both right. That’s a good resolution.

I actually hope that Haley uses many of the same plays that Arians had in his playbook. He designed great plays. He was just inconsistent in his use of them. They have a number of players, particularly Ben, that are comfortable with a lot of those plays and the terminology.

Either way, I’m pretty excited about this hire, for a reason that others have already mentioned. It’s an aggressive move, that could very well blow up in their faces, but also could be brilliant. I’m fired up to see how it goes.

by worldtrip on Feb 6, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Hiring Tomlin was also an aggressive move, and not one that many people were happy with, and you see

how that turned out. Trust in the Front Office!

Who's laughing now, O Line??? Ben Roethlisberger (from the Podium) to his O-Line and the world in Superbowl XLIII

by SteeladyinVA on Feb 6, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm gonna look on the bright side here

What was Kurt Warner before Wisenhunt and Haley? For several seasons he was the aged veteran QB clubs would bring in to mentor their rookies. His production had tailed off, he was fumbling the ball nearly as often as he was throwing TD passes. He lost his job to Mark Bulger in St. Louis, goes to the Giants to mentor Eli. Tom Coughlin (who we can all agree is a heck of a coach) couldn’t do anything with him, so he winds up in Arizona to supposedly mentor Matt Leinart, only Leinart is a bust and Warner never gives up the position. They turn around a laughing stock franchise and take it to the Super Bowl where they are a Woodley sack away from maybe winning the thing.

Then he goes to KC, a team that had also been a laughing stock and gets them to the playoffs. He’s an effective coach, period. His only knock is that he’s probably a jerk, but that’s the type of coach you have to be when turning around historically bad franchises. It’s the old line that as a coach you have to start with keeping the screws tight. You can always loosen them later, but if you start out loose, tightening them later is next to impossible.

In Pittsburgh, he has a team that is motivated, dedicated, and knows what must be done in order to be champions. He doesn’t have to teach them how to be professionals and what it takes to win in the NFL like he had to do in Ariz. and in KC. It’s already in the culture. They already know it. So he doesn’t have to build anything from scratch, he just has to take what is already there and refine it.

I’m willing to take a wait-and-see approach with Haley if it does indeed turn out that he is the guy. And if the Steelers take a FB in the draft, I may even get a little excited.

by furthur56 on Feb 6, 2012 8:20 PM EST reply actions  

What was Kurt Warner before Wisenhunt and Haley?

Wondering what day it was and what he was supposed to do with that fancy egg shaped thing they keep trying to give him.

Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?

by FrankWyt on Feb 6, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Same could be said for Brees and Payton. Sometimes, the right chemistry just works magic.

HERE WE GO STEELERS!
"Our Father, who art in Pittsburgh, Football be thy game. Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done, at Heinz Field as it is in Heaven. Give us this day, a stellar D and forgive us our bogus fines, as we (sorta) forgive Goodell who trespasses against us. And lead us not into defeat, but deliver us a Victory. For thine is The Steelers, the power and glory of climbing the STAIRWAY TO 7."

"Oh... you're a northerner. What exactly do they call 'you people' from Pittsburgh?" "They just call us LUCKY."

by 1BlkGldFan on Feb 6, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, what I meant by that, is Warner took a lot of shots to the noggin, and had concussion problems, just like Bulger had after him. Warner seemed like he was in a daze until about 4 years after he left StL, and Bulger never recovered.

Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?

by FrankWyt on Feb 6, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Remember that game with the Giants?

When he fumbled like seven times and obviously couldn’t see straight?

And we wonder why they want to put neurosurgeons on the sidelines…

by Neal Coolong on Feb 6, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes I do. The only reason Warner would ever admit to is that his broken hand hadn’t healed properly. While that may be true, a lot of times he looked as dazed as Colt McCoy. Especially in his last year in StL

Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?

by FrankWyt on Feb 6, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

after “only reason” it should say “for his poor play”

Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?

by FrankWyt on Feb 6, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Disagree

Brees had started to put it together before he got to the Saints. His last year with the Chargers was good before his injury.

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Feb 6, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Were the Chargers keeping him or was his going to roam the fields of QB’s without a home before Payton decided to make him bionic.

HERE WE GO STEELERS!
"Our Father, who art in Pittsburgh, Football be thy game. Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done, at Heinz Field as it is in Heaven. Give us this day, a stellar D and forgive us our bogus fines, as we (sorta) forgive Goodell who trespasses against us. And lead us not into defeat, but deliver us a Victory. For thine is The Steelers, the power and glory of climbing the STAIRWAY TO 7."

"Oh... you're a northerner. What exactly do they call 'you people' from Pittsburgh?" "They just call us LUCKY."

by 1BlkGldFan on Feb 6, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

If the chargers hadn't drafted rivers

they would have kept brees but the fact you have a first round QB making all that money on the bench means the guy has to play.

All I am saying Brees was a good QB before Payton got to him. He surely didn’t make him bionic, I think Brees would be as good as he is now if he had stayed in San Diego. Althought there is no way to prove that but just how he was improving leads me to believe it.

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Feb 7, 2012 8:38 AM EST up reply actions  

This was my only real reservation.

We’ll see if he can fit in with the organization. I’m going to remain hopeful and keep repeating “in Rooney I trust. In Rooney I trust.”

HERE WE GO STEELERS!
"Our Father, who art in Pittsburgh, Football be thy game. Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done, at Heinz Field as it is in Heaven. Give us this day, a stellar D and forgive us our bogus fines, as we (sorta) forgive Goodell who trespasses against us. And lead us not into defeat, but deliver us a Victory. For thine is The Steelers, the power and glory of climbing the STAIRWAY TO 7."

"Oh... you're a northerner. What exactly do they call 'you people' from Pittsburgh?" "They just call us LUCKY."

by 1BlkGldFan on Feb 6, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

so what are you saying?

family oriented team

Mean’s I’ll have to have my finger resting on the mute button if things don’t go well during a game next year? My 6 year old already has quite the colorful vocabulary, thanks to the guys that built a front porch for me two summers ago. I just hope Haley doesn’t embarrass us- those clips above are comedy gold, but for the other teams. And acting like an ingrate with a loud and limited vocab on the sidelines is the fastest way to lose the respect of a team.

by SteelersVT on Feb 7, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

How exactly is he an ingrate? And because he’s passionate he now has a limited vocabulary?

The only thing I can see wrong is that he might not let things go, beating a dead horse, but we won’t really know because none of us have the insight of what the specifics of the dynamic he’s had with players – specific prima donna ones, at that.

by IronJake on Feb 9, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

That whole "snap the #%$# ball brodie." thing was pretty indicative.

I wonder how many NFL coaches out there really talk to their players like that. Its not “tough coaching”, its berating a player and embarrassing them in front of everyone. You don’t do that. I mean, unless you have some insecurity issues and it makes you feel better to yell at a guy. I even felt embarrassed for Brodie, and I couldn’t care less about that franchise. And he does that once per game? A vet isn’t going to take that kind of crap from a guy only 8ish years older.

by SteelersVT on Feb 9, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

But how is he ungrateful? You called him an ingrate.

by IronJake on Feb 10, 2012 8:19 AM EST up reply actions  

… this is epic. not very steeler-like but absolutely awesome

by klompus on Feb 6, 2012 8:50 PM EST reply actions  

Let's step back a minute here...

…if Haley is the presumptive Offensive Coordinator, what does that mean?
1 – Haley interviewed in such a fashion that his demeanor, philosophy, and coaching style was found to be compatible with what Tomlin wants to do, and so he became Tomlin’s first choice or

2- The first choice(s) of Tomlins either weren’t available or turned the job down.

If its No. 1, then I think Steeler Nation needs to chill (myself included) and realize that all that we hold Tomlin up to being was used to make this decision, with the obvious concurrence of the FO.

If its No. 2, then that either speaks to a dearth of viable candidates, a too-small a range of candidates were identified, or this position isn’t as attractive as we believe it to be.

I don’t know the history of Haley as well as many others here, but I am somewhat familiar with the Steeler organization’s management practices over the past forty years or so, from a fan’s perspective. And although there were some real busts when it came to hiring coordinators under Cowher, we have to remember that the Rooney’s give their coaches a lot of latitude in running the team, and so those busts should be considered Cowhers, not the Steelers.

Given the apparent focus of A. Rooney II on the offensive performance of the team, not just this year, but also in 2009, it would seem to me that they would have had a hand in the selection process, if nothing else than by making sure Tomlin understood what their expectations of the team were so that he would be fully cognizant of them throughout this hiring process.

So, at the end of the day, again presuming this news is correct (and this comment applicable no matter who is chosen), it seems to me that while commentary from the fans here will always be opinionated, and while I don’t advocate blind homerism and allegiance to an idealized ownership, the Rooneys certainly have proven their abilities over the years, and Tomlin certainly seems wise enough to realize how important this hiring will be on his coaching legacy.

Thus, I for one do not see this hiring as being in any way a desperation move, a knee-jerk reaction, or a “this is best we could do with the options available” type of move. Admittedly, I fell into the camp that did not like what we saw of Haley’s apparent histrionics on the sidelines. That may be a part of his character, one I would hope was examined closely and addressed in the job offering. Time will tell, and Steeler Nation will judge, but I am quietly optimistic that the decision is being made now, taking it as a sign that they found the person they wanted. Had this occurred a month from now, then I would be worried.

United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.

by PaVaSteeler on Feb 6, 2012 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

+1

Well done

by Freddyd on Feb 7, 2012 12:32 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Honestly don't think Dr. Spaceman

would have to alter Bruce Arians character too much to match Todd Haley in the upcomings coaches meetings. lol

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Feb 6, 2012 9:45 PM EST reply actions  

Calm down Mrs. Jordan, everything is fine, I just administered an epidural. Would you like one, too?

-Dr. Spaceman

by Neal Coolong on Feb 6, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't forget people

Haley might have a past of being volatile with his players but you think Tomlin’s gonna allow that? Hell no. Everything will be fine.

by shleeve on Feb 6, 2012 10:09 PM EST reply actions  

"Better to have to say 'woah' than 'sic 'em'" -- Coach Tomlin

That’s one of my favorite lines of his. Use it with my staff at work.

Also sums up this Offensive Coordinator change pretty well.

by syrsteelerfan on Feb 6, 2012 10:22 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

haley has a quick temper

this could work if u can win if not this will only last a year or two i think part of the reason u hired him was 1 he plays pitt real well 2 u play the afc west next year

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by j-man on Feb 6, 2012 10:42 PM EST reply actions  

I think you guys will like Haley (coming from a Chiefs fan here)

He’s VERY intense, but in KC the players seemed to respect him for it. Unless your WRs fit the TO mold, he’ll get the best out of them…he did it for Fitz/Bolden/Breaston in AZ and he did it for Bowe in KC.

His personality didn’t mesh at all with Pioli & Hunt in KC, and that’s the main reason he isn’t here any longer. He’s not good HC material, but I think he’ll bring a lot of good things to Pittsburgh as an OC. This and he loves Pittsburgh, he was very open about this in his time with KC.

Predictions:
I'm going to stop predicting positive things

by jmcgoblue on Feb 6, 2012 10:58 PM EST reply actions  

I hope you’re right. I didn’t really like him as a coach, but I’ll wait till next season to decide if it’s a good or bad hire.

Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?

by FrankWyt on Feb 6, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

We’ll find out soon enough.. like someone posted previously; this is either going to be great or blow up in our face. I look forward to seeing what he brings to the table and our wideouts are quietly tweeting excitement for the future.

HERE WE GO STEELERS!
"Our Father, who art in Pittsburgh, Football be thy game. Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done, at Heinz Field as it is in Heaven. Give us this day, a stellar D and forgive us our bogus fines, as we (sorta) forgive Goodell who trespasses against us. And lead us not into defeat, but deliver us a Victory. For thine is The Steelers, the power and glory of climbing the STAIRWAY TO 7."

"Oh... you're a northerner. What exactly do they call 'you people' from Pittsburgh?" "They just call us LUCKY."

by 1BlkGldFan on Feb 6, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I wish I knew about that there tweety thing you young folks use. I’m kind of interested in what Steeler players are saying about this (especially Ben, if anything)

Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?

by FrankWyt on Feb 6, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Must I drag you into the social media scene or will you agree to come willingly?? Ben doesn’t tweet (thank God.)

Deebo, Ryan Clark, Mundy, AB, Wallace, Keisel, Legursky, Ramon Foster, Essex, Woodley, Farrior, Foote, Gilbert, Heyward, Pouncey, Starks, baby Batch, Charlie etc are pretty active. Clark could be a stand up comedian.. They’re all very interactive with fans but don’t be a douche because they’ll tell ya you’re a douche… in a kind way of course.

HERE WE GO STEELERS!
"Our Father, who art in Pittsburgh, Football be thy game. Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done, at Heinz Field as it is in Heaven. Give us this day, a stellar D and forgive us our bogus fines, as we (sorta) forgive Goodell who trespasses against us. And lead us not into defeat, but deliver us a Victory. For thine is The Steelers, the power and glory of climbing the STAIRWAY TO 7."

"Oh... you're a northerner. What exactly do they call 'you people' from Pittsburgh?" "They just call us LUCKY."

by 1BlkGldFan on Feb 7, 2012 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I would never “be a douche”. It actually makes me sick that so many feel they have the right to be one. Especially after a tough loss. I may look in to it…I’m really not a fan of the social media scene

Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?

by FrankWyt on Feb 7, 2012 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s pretty amazing some of the things said. Sad really… but for every 1 ignorant post, there are hundreds worth reading. Kinda like here.. lol

HERE WE GO STEELERS!
"Our Father, who art in Pittsburgh, Football be thy game. Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done, at Heinz Field as it is in Heaven. Give us this day, a stellar D and forgive us our bogus fines, as we (sorta) forgive Goodell who trespasses against us. And lead us not into defeat, but deliver us a Victory. For thine is The Steelers, the power and glory of climbing the STAIRWAY TO 7."

"Oh... you're a northerner. What exactly do they call 'you people' from Pittsburgh?" "They just call us LUCKY."

by 1BlkGldFan on Feb 7, 2012 7:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Uh, hello? Blog site = social media

United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.

by PaVaSteeler on Feb 7, 2012 7:51 AM EST up reply actions  

it’s a forum, I consider social media things like Facebook and Twitter. Things that serve almost no purpose, but are used like crazy.

Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?

by FrankWyt on Feb 7, 2012 7:58 AM EST up reply actions  

You mean,
Things that serve almost no purpose, but are used like crazy.

like this?

United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.

by PaVaSteeler on Feb 8, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not in the risk analysis business, but if I were...

honestly, it doesn’t seem like there’s much risk here — yes, even with the possibility of clashing with number 7 on the way to 7. Let’s say Haley is indeed hired and he goes out and fails miserably at the job — which I don’t think will happen. The Steelers will still have at least two offensive position coaches on staff who many believe are ready and capable of taking over the job of coordinator. Either Kirby or Randy would be able to put on their interim OC cap and get the Steelers through the remainder of a season if it came to it. Not that it wouldn’t be a little painful if they needed to make a change mid-season, but after the trials this team has gone through the past few seasons I’d be willing bet on them still being successful.

As a fan, I love the hire and was hoping he’d be the pick for the job. Nothing really concrete to go on, just a feeling. Hopefully I’m right and we can all be sitting here this time next year revisiting what a ridiculously great year the offense had. If I’m wrong, I’ll have the luxury of the anonymity of the internet to fall back on – that and my day job.

One last thing for all those from the ‘burg…I live in Cincy and finally got to make it to my first Heinz field game this past season. I took my son, brother and nephew to see the Browns game as their Christmas present. Met some great folks and the city is ridiculously electric for a night game, especially given the temps that night. It’s one thing to be a part of the Heinz field south experience once a year at Paul Brown stadium, but man there is nothing like hanging out with all you crazy mf’s at the real deal. Just awesome.

by steelnads on Feb 7, 2012 3:00 AM EST reply actions  

Looks like Eddie Murphy as Donkey

"It's football the way it's meant to be played. That's who Pittsburgh is, and that's who Pittsburgh has always been."

-- so says Rex Ryan.

by sctx109 on Feb 7, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

haha, wtf was he doing here

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by John Stephens on Feb 7, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Can we set this clip to ‘Apache’ by Sugarhill Gang?

"It's football the way it's meant to be played. That's who Pittsburgh is, and that's who Pittsburgh has always been."

-- so says Rex Ryan.

by sctx109 on Feb 7, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Instead of having "Hoke's Pokey"...

…we’re now getting “Haley’s Hop”

United we Stand, melded like Steel
To Roger Goodell, We'll never Yield.

by PaVaSteeler on Feb 8, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I doubt that Haley will be here very long.

Probably sees this as a stepping stone to another HC job. But at least he’s not Arians.

by Billy52 on Feb 7, 2012 8:36 AM EST reply actions  

True

but if he can give us 2-3 years of good offense I won’t mind.

I love the Steelers.

by tannofsteel84 on Feb 7, 2012 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Haley could be good

I’ve always seen him as being a bit dick-ish in the past, but i too would be pissed off if I had to coach KC as well…. I like his offense, and I’m willing to be patient and let him do his thing on the field before i totally lambast him. All I can say is, Welcome to Steeler Nation, Coach Haley, and Good Luck. Expectations are high around here, as Im sure you know, keep your cool and I hope you succeed. For your sake and ours!

"Leave the gun. Bring the Canolis."

by Paulie58 on Feb 7, 2012 9:04 AM EST reply actions  

you're going to like Haley

No one has higher expectations of himself or the players he coaches than he does. He doesn’t want the players he coaches to be be good he wants them to be HOF and that’s how he coaches them.

He won’t want the Steeler offense to be good he will want them to be the greatest offensive unit in football. Not for one or two years but every year. He will expect Big Ben to be the best QB in football bar none.

He will demand excellence from every player he coaches and he will get it.

by riverr on Feb 7, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  


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