Was the cheater "cheated" and the "genius" out geniused (if that's a word)?

It crossed my mind during the game. I thought “:Wow, that worked out extremely well for the Giants……Hey! No maybe not….”

That being said, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the NFL make a rule that brings the time back if the penalty is under 2 minutes.

First thing that came to my mind was that this was on purpose. Bring an extra DB in, knock down his long pass, and take the 5 yards while eating up valuable time.

If you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying.

but forever STFU about Tom Brady "crying" for a penalty flag, or either of the Harbaugh coaches "whining" to the refs about something.

This is completely different than that. This is more comparable to at the end of the basketball game where the team intentially fouls the other team and send them to the free throw line in hopes they miss in order to have a chance of winning. This isn’st asking for a flag or whining this is intentially sending 12 men out of the field in hopes to ‘shorten’ the game. You get a penalty and you accept that. Does the team at the end of a basketball game have no integrity for fouling at the end?

Or, if you are so fine with such a "creative" way of playing, how about this; a penalty for too many men on the field within the 10 yard line results in a free play for the end zone; how would you feel then if a Steeler player tripped trying to get off the field and we’re flagged for it in a Championship game

I would feel like the person who needed to get off the field should have never been on it. See there is a difference here because there is no excuse for not knowing when you shouldn’t be on the field. I’m not going to get mad at the penalty for something that a player should know and has the ability to control.

Either the penalties now have to be adjusted to make such cheating too painful to risk, or the game goes to hell via such dumbass rules as the Brady Rule, the Heinz Ward rule, and the ever popular H2H definitions that cover only the QBs.

Completely different rules here, H2H is a good rule, its the way they implement them makes it out of the players’ control which is why its a bad, the brady rule – I’m fine with its about how they implement them, you shouldn’t be able to dive at a QB legs, its when they call it when you just grab and hold the leg is bothers me, the Hines Ward rule is just dumb though but still this isn’t the situation we’re talking about. We’re talking about using a rule to your advantage. Its completely different.

What you are clapping about, and supporting, only serves to further erode and destroy the game you claim to love.

No it doesn’t, this doesn’t destroy nor erode the game, all it does it make it so if you get a 12 men penalty they issue the yardage and start the clock over. No big deal.

taking advantage of loopholes in the rules is MUCH different than filming pregame walkthroughs.

You actually believe that it isn’t ethical to manipulate the rules in your favor? And you think this while working in the position you do? Anything having to do with capitalism and investments is gaming the system. If you don’t find the loopholes and complexities, you aren’t doing it right.

It sure sounds like you think you are the moral yardstick with these things by lofting accusations of players and coaches being beneath contempt, and calling others hypocrites. It’s a bit over the top. You are really overreacting on this one. It would be a lack of integrity if the coach didn’t do everything within the rules to win the game, even if it means gaming them. Both coaches have the same option, so it’s NOT an unfair advantage. It just so happened that it favored the giants in this particular situation.

And if you think players in today’s professional sports don’t “flop”, then you haven’t ever watched the NBA, NHL, NFL (on every roughing the punter penalty, ever.) or even MLB when players yell at the umps after pretending to swipe at the bag stealing second when it was clear they were a mile off. Players game the rules all the time, it’s part of the game. It’s nothing less than naive to think otherwise. If they tried to play with 12 players and did everything to get away with it, then THAT would be without integrity, and cheating.

I actually think it was a happy accident for the giants, mostly blaming Brady, but he had no choice. Wait for the defender to get off the field to snap the ball to preserve time, but you waste precious seconds waiting at the end of the game. You snap the ball to save time and you get hit with a penalty on the defense which causes you to lose seconds.

It was a catch 22 for the pats, but if the Giants were smart enough to think of it, more power to ’em.

When Buddy Ryan was the Eagles HC and Golic was on the D-Line, Golic said that Ryan would routinely suggest this strategy given the situation presented itself.

That’s what’s in the link

So I picked Redman :)

Me too. Picking Redman is always a good option.

make his snap the ball quickly and not look over the coverage. I can’t let this stop here ya know?

I wanted to get some words flying. lol Glad I could provide some entertainment while we wait for the combine.

Mainly because I don’t have an argument, just a random statement to make conversation.

It certainly was NOT a private moment. She had absolutely no expectation of privacy when you travel with photographers, especially after the super bowl when your husband just lost as QB.