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An Interesting Take From A Fan on The Potential Ramifications Of An Uncapped NFL

Heisted from the comments section of a post made yesterday about the possibility of an uncapped NFL in the future. I'm afraid tfetterman and I see the writing on the wall in a similar way.  Trouble is looming. For the sake of this great game, let's hope we avoid the fate brought upon itself by both MLB and the NHL. In the end, things will be allright I believe, but I sure hope we don't get sidetracked by a stalemate of greed.

-Blitz-

from tfetterman:

With the intelligence in the 32 team corporate offices and the brilliance in the league office, the NFL has been the best run sports organization in the world.  With that said, do you think for one second that the owners would allow players (who have no claim to a piece of the pie other than what they can demand with their performance) to dictate to them how to run their organization?  There are thousands of men out there that didn't make the current cut that would be happy to play while the millionaires try to make more millions.  It would be very nice at least for a season or two to see great players that play for the game (rather than for the money) compete.  Mind you, I would prefer to have the best athletes on the field.  However, this would be great football as well.

Simply put, with no salary cap, there will be a lockout.  Many fans will join in the player's protest, but not enough to diminish the financial margins.  Less ticket sales means less money coming in, but lower salaries (probably league minimum) means less going out.  It might even benefit the league for a short period of time.

Yes, the owners are getting rich.  However, they have earned it.  They are paying players, even at a league minimum, well above what you and I will ever make.  Most of these individuals have college educations, and can eventually earn a significant salary off the field.  The owners are paying them to play a game that they love that I would happily play again for free if I had the chance.  (That and if I got my lazy ass back into shape.)  Yes, I agree that the best players should get the best salaries.  However, with the current cap, it provides a very significant opportunity to provide that.

Ultimately, all of these negotiations get pushed back to the fan.  We end up paying the price.  Do you think ticket prices would have gone up if the salary cap didn't keep going up?  Maybe?  But I would argue that it wouldn't go up as quickly as it has.  Short of a nasty prostitute, can you think of anywhere else that you get entertained for three hours at a price of $159 for an average seat other than concerts and pro sports?  Not to mention what it costs if you want a beer!

Two tickets:  $318
Two Beers:  $22
Two hot dogs:  $16
Parking:  $20
Soda:  $6
Peanuts: $8

Average Price to take your son to a game:  $390

OUCH!

Don't get me wrong.  It's worth every minute of it, but more and more children are missing the opportunity to enjoy what I believe is one of the passtimes that makes this country great.  If we take away the salary cap, I couldn't begin to imagine how ridiculous things would become.

So, I'm not worried about what eliminating the salary cap would do to the Steelers.  I'm worried about what it would do to the game an how it is cherished accross our nation.

Sorry, I'll get off of my soap box now.


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Thanks for the recognition
You changed some of what I wrote, but I'll forgive you.  Oh, and you spelled my user name wrong too.

by tfetterman on Mar 25, 2008 3:00 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yw
Only thing I changed though was adding 'sports' to in front of organization.

lol, my bad on the name. Check out the timestamp on it - it was past my bedtime :)

by Blitzburgh on Mar 25, 2008 10:53 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

View from the n00b
Hey Guys, you may remember me from my random comments during the play-offs!  Been reading regularly but I am still finding my feet with the complexities of trades etc. in the NFL.  Let me give you my view on it and see where you can put me right?

One of the things that attracted me to this sport, beyond the on-field action, is the regular restoration of parity between teams that seems to occur over a number of seasons play.  The draft system, salary capping etc. only seem to serve this way of keeping the playing field varied.  A team that sucks for a couple of seasons ca benefit from top class draft choices, or trades of those picks for older but high grade players.

Beyond this great leveller the Salary Cap keeps the poorer, or we should say 'less rich' in the mix.  Back in the 70s and 80s one team dominated the sport of Rugby League over here (I won't go into the differences  between League and Union!) and that was Wigan.  This was because their owner had all the money (at the time the owner was the same guy who owns the UK sporting goods chain JJB) to buy in players from Australia and also the best of the UK players.  This had two effects, firstly Wigan were paying more and more money for their players which was putting them in financial difficulties.  Secondly other teams were making more and more financial commitments beyond their means often going into receivership.  

There is much more to this tale that I won't bore you with but the bottom line is that without constraints, the pursuit of accolades and trophies to the exclusion of all else - including the health of the sport - could very well have eliminated Rugby League as a sport all together.

Now the NFL is big business and has infinitely more cash behind it than a sport like Rugby League.  So let's look at an uncapped sport - Football, or Soccer as you guys call it.  The UK Premier League is one of, if not the most watched league on the planet. It has the world's best players in it and is worth a ludicrous amount of cash.  However there is one thing that you will notice and that is Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United are almost always in the top 3 spots at the end of the season - which gives them entry to a variety of other competitions which earn them more cash.  A team that was challenging these positions about 5 years ago was Leeds Utd. but they overstretched in transfers one season, failed to make it into the Champions League and the resultant 'lost' income sent them crashing out of the Premiership and into receivership.

I've gone on a bit here, and I apologise.  My point is this:  No salary cap, in my opinion, is much more likely to produce a relatively small number of dynastic teams that slug it out each season, with the occasional 'Giant Killer' coming through.  This will reduce your gates on the smaller teams, and is rightly pointed out will drive prices up further.

This is a great game and the capping and from my point of view, the salary cap and the draft system is part of what makes it great.

Apologies for veering off the point a bit here and probably contradicting myself, this is a bit of a brain dump.  Let me know if I've completely missed the issue!

Matt

by taffysaint on Mar 25, 2008 9:30 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

a few extras
I knew I would forget something important! - rugby League is now regulated by various capping regulations that, while not curing it of a 'Big 4 teams' syndrome as yet, it is definitely improving year on year with the level of competition within the Super League and the lower leagues.

Football (soccer) remains uncapped and you end up with ageing playes passed their prime getting paid £125m a year.  

by taffysaint on Mar 25, 2008 9:33 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cap
Only thing I'd differ on is that the cap drives up ticket prices and the like.  The cap remains a percentage of the total gross.  If the fans will pay it the teams will charge it.  Simple economics of demand. The cap does create greater interest in the sport for all reasons listed which then does drive up interest and therefore prices, but I don't think it's the money being taken away from ownership that forces them to raise ticket prices.

I still have to assume that there are far too many logical people involved at the top levels to let this get screwed up.  Don't mess with a good thing.  

by Chicago Steeler on Mar 25, 2008 12:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have to disagree with you here.
After their respective last strikes/lockouts/whatever, baseball and hockey still haven't fully recovered. It would probably destroy a few teams and tarnish the league for a long time.

More specifically, though, ticket prices go up because people are willing to pay it. Take a look at what the ticket prices actually are and then take a look at what the asking price for tickets on StubHub or whatnot is; good seats for the 8-10 most popular teams easily sell for double face value.

And, for the kicker, with the revenue sharing agreements in place, over 2/3rds of each teams' revenues come from television deals and merchandising, not ticket sales and the like. Gate revenues aren't nearly as important as most people would think.

by HinesField on Mar 25, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Major difference
I don't disagree with you that a strike/lockout would hurt the NFL.  However, there is a big difference between losing an entire season with no games at all and playing games with replacement players.  I think the NFL would have a better chance of recovering than MLB and the NHL, but as most of us have said, hopefully it won't come to that.

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Mar 26, 2008 10:17 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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