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BTSC Mock Draft - Pick #9 by Cincinnati Bengals: Keith Rivers, OLB USC

There are few, if any, people I've chatted with or read that are as in tune with the draft as our very own BadMaafala. I'm pleased he's participating in this with us and I look forward to his insights the rest of this month and next about the 2008 NFL Draft. Many thanks. That means the New Orleans Saints and Blitzburgh are on the clock.

If the Bengals can get Dorsey, Ellis, or McFadden, it would be the steal of the draft. If not, they are very screwed, which leads me to believe that they would consider trading up or down.

I am a big supporter of picking the best player available, especially this early, but the value at this spot is at LT, QB, and CB. The Bengals have spent first round picks on 2 CB's, a QB, and a LT in the past 6 years, and none of those picks look like a bust. The good news is that even if they don't need them, there are some very good players still available like McKelvin, Ryan, and your choice of the OT's. If someone a few spots down targets one of those players, the Bengals could have a trade partner.

We can't trade here, though, so they're stuck. If you're going to dip into the next tier based on need, you might as well go all out. Their needs (other than depth) are:

LB - Rough couple of years for their LB's. I don't see why Thurman won't get reinstated this year, but Pollack probably won't be the same if he comes back at all. Their roster is filled with LB depth, but not very many have starting potential.

DT - Still a mystery if they will ever switch to the 3-4. Peko has been decent, but Thornton is older and hasn't been that good since the first year he played for the Bengals.

WR - With Henry gone, Johnson unhappy, and no solid options behind them, the Bengals will be forced to draft a WR at some point, maybe two.

TE - They lack of a top tier TE, which amplifies the need at WR.

RB - Johnson is getting old, Irons is still hurt, and Watson isn't a full time starter. They don't need more depth, but it seems possible they could bite on a top RB.

FS - They have some capable players, but no proven starter.

C - They could use a starting center, but still have some decent options.

PR - Antonio Chapman isn't that great and has been injured a lot.

There are no DT's or FS's, TE's, or C's that would even warrant consideration at #9. NFL DS says I should look at Thomas at WR, Rivers and Connor at LB, and Mendenhall at RB. To be honest, I don't like any of those guys here, and here's why:

Devin Thomas - Shooting up boards for good workouts, which usually isn't a good thing. Part of his value is in KR's, but the Bengals need a PR, not KR. Also, this class has the WR depth to allow the Bengals to wait on that need.

Rashard Mendenhall - Similar to a young Rudy Johnson. He'll probably be a good RB, but not a great one. He does a lot of things right, especially for a one-year starter, but he doesn't have the good moves you want in a top 10 guy. I'd also consider Stewart, who I think will be a better back, but they already have a running back (Irons) who is injured. They need someone who can at least share time right away. If Stewart wasn't injured, I think he'd be my pick.

Keith Rivers - NFL DS is wrong. Rivers is not worth the 9th overall pick. He's not a freak athlete and he's not an instincts guy. He may be the best overall LB in this class, but if Maualuga and Laurinaitis had declared, he probably wouldn't be drafted in the first round. He's no Patrick Willis or AJ Hawk. I think Blitz might have been on to something by going with Mayo. He was more productive and timed better than Rivers. That said, Rivers is a good athlete and would be an upgrade for the Bengals.  

Dan Connor - Once again, Connor is benefiting from a weak class. He is too small to play in the middle and not athletic enough to play on the outside. However, he knows how to play the game and gets the most out of his ability.

So I've pretty much ruled out the Bengals getting anything close to market value for their pick, so what the heck, with the 9th pick of the 2008 NFL draft the Cincinnati Bengals select:

Keith Rivers, OLB, USC



Another Ohio heartbreak: if OSU had won the BCS championship, Laurinitis probably would have come out and prevented this Rivers nonsense.

BTSC Mock Draft Team Selections

#1 - Miami Dolphins, Darren Mcfadden
#2 - St. Louis Rams, Chris Long
#3 - Atlanta Falcons, Sedrick Ellis
#4 - Oakland Raiders, Vernon Gholston
#5 - Kansas City Chiefs, Jake Long
#6 - New York Jets, Glen Dorsey
#7 - New England Patriots, Dominique Rodger-Cromartie
#8 - Baltimore Ravens, Jerod Mayo

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Bad News for Cincy
This is probably the way the draft ends up and they'll have to choose who they want to reach for. I wouldn't be surprised if they reached for the safety from Miami (name escapes me right now), but they really need DL and there probably won't be one there worth a top 10 pick.

by cgolden on Apr 7, 2008 11:18 AM EDT reply actions  

yeah
good analysis BadMaafala. Cincy probably will be a victim of bad luck here.

by Michael Bean on Apr 7, 2008 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Trade up?
This may be a position where someone would trade up for Ryan.  Of those in striking distance, here are the teams that I think need to look at QB: Bills, Panthers, Bears and Lions.  The Bills wouldn't trade up, because they would be the next team in line that needs a QB.  The Panthers probably wouldn't because they still like Delhomme, so maybe the Bears or Lions.

But, anyway, if things fall out like this to hurt Cincy, that'll be good for the Steelers. :)

by WolfpackSteelersFan on Apr 7, 2008 11:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Ryan to Da.....Bears!
Good call on some teams trading up at this point to get Ryan.  While I'm not high on him being a top 10 talent, when you consider that a few teams will really really want him I can see a trade happening... that is if Ellis and Dorsey are off the board at this point.
Tony S. -Steelers fan in Raleigh, NC.

by Tshaff on Apr 7, 2008 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rivers is a great pick
I see him being this years version of Patrick Willis.

by Terry @ Behind the Steel Curtain on Apr 7, 2008 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Whats you talkin' bout Willis?
No seriously, I'm a huge Patrick Willis fan and I see him as a truly special player who just doesn't come along every year (much like AP).

by cgolden on Apr 7, 2008 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe but...
Willis was bigger, stronger, faster, and more natural a football player coming out last year.  I don't think there's a comparison.

by BadMaafala on Apr 7, 2008 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

This thread makes me cringe
Didn't Willis go just a few spots ahead of Timmons?  I know I am not being fair to Timmons.  He has plenty of time to make me happy. But it seems like, at the moment, that the difference between Willis and Timmons is far greater than the few picks that separated them a year ago.

by maryrose on Apr 7, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

yea
I sat with my fingers crossed praying he'd fall to us but alas, snagged. Part of the reason I made the Mayo pick was because I thought he'd be able to have a similar impact right away like Willis and that teams would see him as a safe, sure bet much like Willis.

by Michael Bean on Apr 7, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

while
Willis certainly looks very good, many people (Scouts) were saying that his tackle numbers were extremely inflated because the 49ers wanted to make sure he got DROY.  furthermore, Willis wouldn't have started for us either.  would have played maybe more than Timmons but he's not going to replace an All-Pro guy like Farrior as a rookie.  most he could've done was take some of Foote's minutes.  he got tons of PT because he was on a bad team.  Timmons would've put up decent numbers on the 49ers as well.

by TheMostViolentTeam on Apr 7, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Willis
Timmons wouldn't have gotten PT on the 49ers if his hammy was hurt all pre-season.  I will agree that we need to be patient with Timmons, and there's no reason to think he won't be a good player when he gets on the field, but there's also no reason to think he's in Willis' league either.  I think what really happened was that we got screwed like the Bengals did in this scenario, so we reached for a late first round LB.  I don't think we tried hard enough to trade down, and I was rooting for us to draft Joe Staley, but it's hard to say if we would have been better off.  I think there just weren't any great options there.  As I said elsewhere, why couldn't there have been 5 OT's worth about the 15th pick last year?

by BadMaafala on Apr 7, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

staley
I wrote about him last year at this time as well whicn you can see here. I was hoping we'd get him as well.

by Michael Bean on Apr 7, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

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